vMA stage 6 help [gear and specs mainly, already know the fight] for magplar

Mutagem

Alright, so bar 1 is puncturing sweeps, breath of life, channeled focus, structured entropy, blazing spear [for cc]

bar 2 is breath of life, mist form, channeled focus, extended ritual, and that one restoring light one that grants more magicka regen for 15 seconds dont remember the name.

My problem is I know the mechanics very very well by now, its that I just cant seem to dps the boss down and always end up running out of magicka and dying. My general strategy is as follows

kill hoarver at beginning, dps boss, kill webspinner, kill daedric spider / repeat. By the time i get him down to the phase where hes stunned I honestly have like no magicka whatsoever so end up having to put dots and heavy attack to get myself back up. I've been swapping between soulshine/julianos [both heavy impen pvp gear] and spinners/night mothers sorrow all divines. I have been sticking with heavy armor cause i seem to survive much longer / get better heals due to armor passives.

I honestly dont believe my CP is a problem but i'll still post it i got 100 into magician rest into arcanist about 76 at this point, 70ish into hardy 70ish into elemental defender, 30ish into thick skinned, 30 into thermaturge, 100 into elementalist rest into elfborn

HatchetHaro

Thing about vMA is that it's all about the resource management. Try, instead of using up all your magicka, weaving in some heavy attacks between skills and use potions (crafted ones are better).

I'm going to suggest that you go with light armor and stay alive with your own heals and regen. This way, you actually get more damage and can take down adds more quickly. However, I don't have any reliable experience with mag builds so take my word with a grain of salt.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

A full list of your armor, jewelry and weapons, including traits would be nice but just looking at what you got a couple of things stand out.

First is light vs heavy, you need to have at least 5 light on. The passive that gives 4884 spell pen is too good to pass up, that is like a 10% increase in dps right there, you can wear 2 heavy and get some use use out of the passives. And you can move like 30 cp into quick recovery, this will give you around 8% more healing, like the passive from heavy does and only lose like 2% damage reduction from hardy, eledender and thick skinned.


Then the rest of your cp, you want to pump up thermaturge, everything that a temp uses is a dot, so you want about even amounts into thermaturge and eledamage.

How many cp into elf born do you have exactly, as there are jump points, meaning that you could be wasting CP.

Then there is breath on both bars, you only need it on one, replace one of them with harness magika, this alone will save you a ton of magic, as you can cast it and then Sweeps to get the health back behind the shield. Harness magika also protects against physical damage now too, you just don't get the magic back from it.

You have channeled focus on both bars as well, get rid of one and use the damage form of extended ritual, the extra healing and damage is too good to pass up.

So if I was in your position, my bars would prolly look something like this,

Front bar dual sharpened swords- inner light, entropy, radiant glory, reflective light, Sweeps, ultimate, fire comet.

Back bar, fire destro staff sharpened, ritual of retribution, breath, harness magika, channeled focus, elemental blockade, ultimate crescent sweep.

This set up will give you better damage and survaibltiy.

Now for armor, it is better to use all the armor to max out spell and max magic, use the thief mundas and then us the food that gives you max health and regen, till you get the hang of things.

That is all I see right now. Need more information to give more advice.

SublimeSparo

I did it with 5 Rattlecage 5 lich 2 skoria 2 willpower, with s&b backbar dw frontbar 5 heavy 2 light. All impen lol (Also done as reactive malubeth transmutation)
Couple of things you can try;
Wrothgar max health +regen drink. (Was there a witched one with max magic + magic regen, another option)
Regen glyph
Atro mundus
If you have destro backbar- Elemental drain- if resto siphon spirit
Always always always keep Channelled focus down.
Ignore the adds as much as possible, and just nuke boss, if you position yourself right the adds while get jabbed/ blazing shield/ reflective lighted/ meteored too. Stun the boss when possible or alternatively pull the hoarver to the boss
At 35% back up a bit from boss rune down and jesus beam

My bars:
DW:
Reflective light, radiant oppression, inner light, Puncturing sweeps, blazing spear, shooting star
S&b:
Channelled focus, ritual of retribution, trap beast, toppling charge, breath of life, s&b ult (didn't use it, crescent sweep prob better here)

Ch4mpTW

I usually ran VMA on my MagPlar with: 5pcs. Seducer, 3pcs. Willpower (can be swapped for Infallible Mage), 2pcs. Engine Guardian, 2pcs. Torug's Pact, and 1pcs. Maelstrom's Restoration Staff (can be swapped for any restoration staff). It provided me with: Solid damage, excellent resource management, and overall extreme comfort no matter what situation I was placed in (that I could control).

TheDarkRuler

Have you tried to use the Focus of the Restoring Light tree?
If you stand inside of it, you get a constant magicka regeneration which helps alot!

DRXHarbinger

How I got flawless on mine.

Use the new Witch mothers potent brew. And one recovery glyph on jewlery. I use 3pc aether and 2 willpower swords so my max magika is 45k. But this way my recovery is 1700 and standing in channel focus you can jab forever. Unbuffed damaged is 2400 but use degeneration and vamp bane buffs you to decent levels.

Recovery is key, if you cannot jab on round 9 you will die so you need to address that. I dropped 1k health and about 900 magika for this recovery but 16k health is plenty. So long as you are standing in either focus or retribution you cannot be killed in vma by usual mechanics. Crem guards cannot burn you down you will always win.

Give that a go.

Mutagem

Thanks everyone, just grabbed some willpower sharpened swords and replaced willpower jewellrey with IA gold jewellrey. Didn't expect a lot of posts cause no one responded for a bit there. Thanks again I will try this new set up and report back

Then the rest of your cp, you want to pump up thermaturge, everything that a temp uses is a dot, so you want about even amounts into thermaturge and eledamage.

How many cp into elf born do you have exactly, as there are jump points, meaning that you could be wasting CP.

have 51 in elfborn will try and adjust doing what you said

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Mutagem wrote: »

Thanks everyone, just grabbed some willpower sharpened swords and replaced willpower jewellrey with IA gold jewellrey. Didn't expect a lot of posts cause no one responded for a bit there. Thanks again I will try this new set up and report back

Then the rest of your cp, you want to pump up thermaturge, everything that a temp uses is a dot, so you want about even amounts into thermaturge and eledamage.

How many cp into elf born do you have exactly, as there are jump points, meaning that you could be wasting CP.

have 51 in elfborn will try and adjust doing what you said

51 is a jump point, so you are good to go there. If you have gold aether jewelry, you prolly have a good grasp on the game. But beware the extra 5% damage from minor slayer doesn't play well with Sweeps or radiant glory, I mean it is not a huge difference but there is one.

What armor, traits and mundas do you have? What food you using? Bar set up? Resto or destro back bar?

Mutagem

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Mutagem wrote: »

Thanks everyone, just grabbed some willpower sharpened swords and replaced willpower jewellrey with IA gold jewellrey. Didn't expect a lot of posts cause no one responded for a bit there. Thanks again I will try this new set up and report back

Then the rest of your cp, you want to pump up thermaturge, everything that a temp uses is a dot, so you want about even amounts into thermaturge and eledamage.

How many cp into elf born do you have exactly, as there are jump points, meaning that you could be wasting CP.

have 51 in elfborn will try and adjust doing what you said

51 is a jump point, so you are good to go there. If you have gold aether jewelry, you prolly have a good grasp on the game. But beware the extra 5% damage from minor slayer doesn't play well with Sweeps or radiant glory, I mean it is not a huge difference but there is one.

What armor, traits and mundas do you have? What food you using? Bar set up? Resto or destro back bar?

Julianos divines, Oh I also forgot to mention that someone from the PVE guild suggested running iceheart monster set for this boss/vMA in general. destro back bar now with the 2 willpower swords in front. The iceheart works really well so far.I'm also using Thief Mundus

Before I was running solitude salmon filet but now im running that red frothgar cause someone suggested it. im noticing my resources are way better now but my damage output is definitely less now which sucks but ehh gotta try something different thats for sure.

Mutagem

UPDATE: I BEAT THE BOSS 3rd TRY lol

switching to frothgar food and using the iceheart helm was what saved me i think. I only ran out of magicka like once and that was only cause i forgot to pop a potion a couple times and when i did it wasnt on cooldown anymore anyways