CALLING ALL DKS WHO USE TO DRAGON LEAP BEFORE!!!!!

sneakymitchell

I have a solution to this and it would be.....

Make a increase damage to the target you are leaping to and then stunning them for couple secs.
Let the damage be 20% to 25% full level and the stun will be 2 secs to 5 secs.


This is how dragon leap should work. You are leaping on a TARGET and slamming your body to the ground on them. It makes sense to make the burst like that.
People will complain about wrecking blow builds again but so what? U
Unlike the NBs incap strike they can burst down a target real fast with it.
Why can't DKs have that ultimate to burst a person down?
This is the only solution that I have to make it better.
I don't care if you block it or dodge it but when it hits you. It will be great amount of damage and stun.

To Clarify It wont be OP Cause it doesn't have a reduce healing effect just pure physical base damage with extra damage if you hit your target.
If you read this fully and agree send it out to every DK out there who wants a change to dawnbreaker of smiting everyday.

@Wrobel
@ZOS_GinaBruno

Asgari

The reason leap is no longer used is they reduced the range and you can use the ult when you are rooted.

Spliffo

Make it so that it can't be roll dodged or walked out of and then I will use it over dawnbreaker again

Savos_Saren

Make one version a "Firey Leap" for mDKs!

sneakymitchell

jaburns wrote: »

Make one version a "Firey Leap" for mDKs!

Well if you use fiery grip and the leap in what I suggestion. The damage would be pretty good like get 40% or more damage to leap.

olsborg

sneakymitchell wrote: »

Why can't DKs have that ultimate to burst a person down?

If dks can burst down ppl like nb...why would anyone ever play a nb again? DKs are pretty f strong already.

FloppyTouch

jaburns wrote: »

Make one version a "Firey Leap" for mDKs!

I like you

RazorCaltrops

Still the most important isn't mentioned: It can be dodged, unlike dawnbreaker.

susmitds

Nope, StamDKs are OP enough. Leap deals more initial damage than DBoS and has range and is cheaper. If you want full burst, then go NB. Why can't my NB have DK sustain and survivability, if my DK can burst like an NB?

Alucardo

RazorCaltrops wrote: »

Still the most important isn't mentioned: It can be dodged, unlike dawnbreaker.

Dawnbreaker is somewhat of a ground based AOE that doesn't require a target. Of course it can't be dodged.

Yamenstein

susmitds wrote: »

Nope, StamDKs are OP enough. Leap deals more initial damage than DBoS and has range and is cheaper. If you want full burst, then go NB. Why can't my NB have DK sustain and survivability, if my DK can burst like an NB?

Nightblades do have good sustain...
Though yes, stamDK doesn't need a buff.

Joy_Division

susmitds wrote: »

Nope, StamDKs are OP enough. Leap deals more initial damage than DBoS and has range and is cheaper. If you want full burst, then go NB. Why can't my NB have DK sustain and survivability, if my DK can burst like an NB?

Your NB by default has better sustain than a DK.

Edziu

Joy_Division wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

Nope, StamDKs are OP enough. Leap deals more initial damage than DBoS and has range and is cheaper. If you want full burst, then go NB. Why can't my NB have DK sustain and survivability, if my DK can burst like an NB?

Your NB by default has better sustain than a DK.

if cloak will ormally work as indendeed but still is breaking by any *** and have so many many counter in compare to all other defensife class skills

Izaki

To those saying that NB has less sustain than DK I suggest you L2Read tooltips and read Siphoning Attacks. Then L2Weave. Then dare to repeat the initial statement.

susmitds

In PvP, a StamDK will have more sustain than a StamNB. DW LA weaving with Surprise Attack and Funnel(for MagNB) has been broken since DB patch.

Not talking about PvE.

L2Pissue

only noobs who need to L2P call for buffs for DK
be it stamina or magicka

Edziu

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

To those saying that NB has less sustain than DK I suggest you L2Read tooltips and read Siphoning Attacks. Then L2Weave. Then dare to repeat the initial statement.

if you can see its also writing you need to deal damage o recover stats, atleast to spam light attacks, to recover almos 1k stam and magica by each hit and again.....you need to attack to work with it, if you are forced to heal, block, rolldodge, be in hide you have no any bonuses by have sipho attacks.

when some running on pvp and dueal I easily can tell only 1.7k stam regen without sipho is low, 800 stam reg like in pve with sipho on pvp also doesnt work, you need to have 1.7k+ regen + sipho to have nice sustain but still if you cant just spam light attack because of needed to stay in defense for moment you have no any benefits by sipho while dk just need to use ulti to get back all resources in % by ulti cost + any skill use from earthen heart to recover next 5% max stam

DHale

Or they could just change it to how it was. It is not worth slotting anymore.

FloppyTouch

L2Pissue wrote: »

only noobs who need to L2P call for buffs for DK
be it stamina or magicka

calling u out on the mdk part we mdk underperforming in every aspect of PVP just stop you look stupid. Stam dk though is just fine no need for buffs or nerfs. Stam nb just fine no need for buffs or nerfs, magic nb need a buff. Proc sets need a nerf, major evasion needs looking into in.

Belicourt

sneakymitchell wrote: »

I have a solution to this and it would be.....

Make a increase damage to the target you are leaping to and then stunning them for couple secs.
Let the damage be 20% to 25% full level and the stun will be 2 secs to 5 secs.


This is how dragon leap should work. You are leaping on a TARGET and slamming your body to the ground on them. It makes sense to make the burst like that.
People will complain about wrecking blow builds again but so what? U
Unlike the NBs incap strike they can burst down a target real fast with it.
Why can't DKs have that ultimate to burst a person down?
This is the only solution that I have to make it better.
I don't care if you block it or dodge it but when it hits you. It will be great amount of damage and stun.

To Clarify It wont be OP Cause it doesn't have a reduce healing effect just pure physical base damage with extra damage if you hit your target.
If you read this fully and agree send it out to every DK out there who wants a change to dawnbreaker of smiting everyday.

@Wrobel
@ZOS_GinaBruno

Don't call Dks if you don't mean it. That call is not a trifle.

Thank you,

Lexxypwns

susmitds wrote: »

Nope, StamDKs are OP enough. Leap deals more initial damage than DBoS and has range and is cheaper. If you want full burst, then go NB. Why can't my NB have DK sustain and survivability, if my DK can burst like an NB?

NB has much better sustain than DK and its not even close, you better go read those passives and spend some time with siphoning attacks.

sneakymitchell

susmitds wrote: »

Nope, StamDKs are OP enough. Leap deals more initial damage than DBoS and has range and is cheaper. If you want full burst, then go NB. Why can't my NB have DK sustain and survivability, if my DK can burst like an NB?

A nbs use cloak so. And use of shadow image. Both seem tsnky so.

sneakymitchell

Edziu wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

Nope, StamDKs are OP enough. Leap deals more initial damage than DBoS and has range and is cheaper. If you want full burst, then go NB. Why can't my NB have DK sustain and survivability, if my DK can burst like an NB?

Your NB by default has better sustain than a DK.

if cloak will ormally work as indendeed but still is breaking by any *** and have so many many counter in compare to all other defensife class skills

There are quite a bit of survivalbilty as a nb cloak and shadow image.

sneakymitchell

olsborg wrote: »

sneakymitchell wrote: »

Why can't DKs have that ultimate to burst a person down?

If dks can burst down ppl like nb...why would anyone ever play a nb again? DKs are pretty f strong already.

People as a stam build can't burst players down without dawnbreaker. Plus think about the ultimate the weakness of it. Plus this game is about burst meta now a days with everyone.

sneakymitchell

Alucardo wrote: »

RazorCaltrops wrote: »

Still the most important isn't mentioned: It can be dodged, unlike dawnbreaker.

Dawnbreaker is somewhat of a ground based AOE that doesn't require a target. Of course it can't be dodged.

And that's what dawnbreaker is more used now by DKs. Nbs could have incap and dawnbreaker on one both bars or switch one or the other. This is the only balance for DKs unless someone who has an brain and know the ways of a DK as well and says something different about leap.

GreenSoup2HoT

Ive seen some nasty dk leaps be the reason they won a 5v5 fight before. Its like the john cena ultimate of eso. "You cant see me" kinda thing. When dks leap a group out of nowhere its very nice.

I personally think the ulty is fine. Its more for flanking groups with a nice hard engage. Dodging leap is easy as hell but if i dont see it coming well...

How about make dawnbreaker dodge-able. That will balance out the stamina ultys. Im talking roll dodge or % dodgeable.

MaxwellC

Dks aren't the strongest class so I'll clear that misconception up (strictly a PvP view), now in PvE yeah they're still up there if not #1.
Dragon leap I used to use it but they took the fun out of the ultimate with getting rid of jumping into keeps. Take flight is weaker than most physical damage ultimates if not the weakest with no good merit for using it as it's easily dodged.

I'd like if I use a take flight I create some sort of wave a few meters around me that knocks everyone down in range + deals extra damage if knocked down. Kind of what the OP says.

sneakymitchell

@GreenSoup2HoT

And fix the bugs it has mostly but that will never happen. And if dawnbreaker gives u more weapon damage and does more damage to vampires and werewolves but not much. I just want DKs to run other ultimate instead of this and this only for PVP and such.

sneakymitchell

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

Dks aren't the strongest class so I'll clear that misconception up (strictly a PvP view), now in PvE yeah they're still up there if not #1.
Dragon leap I used to use it but they took the fun out of the ultimate with getting rid of jumping into keeps. Take flight is weaker than most physical damage ultimates if not the weakest with no good merit for using it as it's easily dodged.

I'd like if I use a take flight I create some sort of wave a few meters around me that knocks everyone down in range + deals extra damage if knocked down. Kind of what the OP says.

True about PvE. But the class lacks in PVP most of all.

sneakymitchell

sneakymitchell wrote: »

@GreenSoup2HoT

And fix the bugs it has mostly but that will never happen. And if dawnbreaker gives u more weapon damage and does more damage to vampires and werewolves but not much. I just want DKs to run other ultimate instead of this and this only for PVP and such.

Either way @GreenSoup2HoT ZOS probably won't fix DKs problems cause it might be too OP. All other classes can compete in open world PVP while DKs can't do much but when ur a magic build they just spam roots on targets and use bats as possible. Stam DKs could pack a punch but only too dawnbreaker and the two hander ultimate.

susmitds

sneakymitchell wrote: »

sneakymitchell wrote: »

@GreenSoup2HoT

And fix the bugs it has mostly but that will never happen. And if dawnbreaker gives u more weapon damage and does more damage to vampires and werewolves but not much. I just want DKs to run other ultimate instead of this and this only for PVP and such.

Either way @GreenSoup2HoT ZOS probably won't fix DKs problems cause it might be too OP. All other classes can compete in open world PVP while DKs can't do much but when ur a magic build they just spam roots on targets and use bats as possible. Stam DKs could pack a punch but only too dawnbreaker and the two hander ultimate.

2H ultimate is batsh*t.

StamDKs are the best along with StamSorcs. Tremorscale/Viper/Black Rose redguard StamDKs have crazy burst, while also being incredibly tanky and great sustain.