Need help with my vMA build: Stamina Sorcerer 5x VO & 5x TBS

j_s

Hi community,

Here's my build:

Redguard Stamina Sorcerer with 395 CP, all 64 stats in Stamina.


The armor:
5x Vicious Ophidian and 5x Twice-Born Star
7x Medium Armor with Divine trait and Max Stamina Enchantement on all of them
All gold enhanced


The weapons:
Dual Wield Weapons are 1 Sharpened Dagger of Ashen Grip with Weapon Damage Enchantement and
1 Sharpened Dagger of Ashen Grip with Crusher Enchantement
Backup Weapon is 1 Precise Bow of Ashen Grip with Poisoned Weapon enchantement
All gold enhanced


The problem:
My Health basically, it's at 11,297 unbuffed and 15,759 buffed.


The question:
How can I raise my health in an efficient manner (i.e. without sacrificing too much Stamina or DPS)?


Thanks in advance for all helpful answers,
j_s

j_s

forgot to add:

Mundus Stones are Thief and Shadow.

I don't want to change VO or TBS unless absolutely necessary.

Asardes

You can gain more health at the expense of some DPS and sustain by replacing 2 pieces of medium with one light (waist) and one heavy (chest) and benefiting from the undaunted mettle passive, with adds 2% to your stats for each armor type equipped. Also the heavy armor adds 2% more health from juggernaut passive. I don't know if you already have the undaunted passives unlocked on this char, for the basic 2% stat bonus from just the medium, but looking at the numbers it doesn't look like it. So 8% more health will bring you to 17,020, a net gain of 1.2K. You will also gain around ~2K stamina.
Each equipped medium armor increases your critical rating by 1.5% and gives you 4% cost reduction, 4% regeneration, 4% roll dodge cost and 3% sprint speed, if you have specced all passives. So you will lose 2x that by replacing those medium pieces with heavy armor. Assuming they are not the VO pieces. It's really up to you.

Lashiing

do you have veli/kragh/selene?

you should try running 2x veli, 5x vo, 5x tbs (that what i do and kraghs on bosses)
mainhand sharp dagger wep dmg, ofhand prec/sharp axe poison
on bow swap break vo

should up your dps quite a bit
as far as your health you should only need ~18k
just put on 1-2 heavy, make sure you got the passives in
also you could put a few of your 64 into health/re ench a bit

i know having 45k stam is cool and all but that 18k health is necessary

montiferus

While TBS is a must for trials I have found it to not be BIS for Maelstrom. I know you don't want to get new gear, which I totally get, but Night Mothers Gaze/Hundings with Velidreth would be better. You need burst damage in VMA and that setup offers it.

If you have to keep TBS try to get a monster set either Kragh or Veli to amp damage. Also if you keep TBS be sure to reapply beast trap early and often to maximize Shadow mundus.

I would say you should have at least 18k health to start. You can do it with less but it's hard. I personally would do 5/1/1 but if you don't want to change gear either renchant the bigger pieces with a health glyph or put some attribute points into health.

Good luck ! Hope you beat it.

Lashiing

montiferus wrote: »

While TBS is a must for trials I have found it to not be BIS for Maelstrom. I know you don't want to get new gear, which I totally get, but Night Mothers Gaze/Hundings with Velidreth would be better. You need burst damage in VMA and that setup offers it.

If you have to keep TBS try to get a monster set either Kragh or Veli to amp damage. Also if you keep TBS be sure to reapply beast trap early and often to maximize Shadow mundus.

I would say you should have at least 18k health to start. You can do it with less but it's hard. I personally would do 5/1/1 but if you don't want to change gear either renchant the bigger pieces with a health glyph or put some attribute points into health.

Good luck ! Hope you beat it.

yeah, i'ver also hear nmg > tbs in vMA
personally ive done my past few runs in tbs, gonna try nmg today

montiferus

TBS is BIS when you have a good war horn rotation. Problem is the only crit buff you will be using in VMA is trap which is great but not enough to make full use of the Shadow.

The moment I switched to Hundings with Velidreth everything just started melting. I lose the VO 5 piece bonus on my bow bar but I spend so little time on that bar it isn't an issue.

Dagoth_Rac

Crit percent, crit damage, weapon damage, proc sets, all more important than raw stamina for killing stuff fast. And as a Redguard, stam resource management should be great, making it hard to run out of stamina even with a smaller stam pool. So try a health enchant or two on big armor pieces or moving some attribute points into health. Using the Ashen Grip daggers to get health is a missed opportunity. Heck, if you really insist on a 2-piece health bonus from daggers, go Endurance daggers. That is a much bigger heaklth buff than Ashen Grip. But you can get health in other ways and free those two spots for a monster set like Kra'gh or Velidreth. VMA as much about learning mechanics and memorizing when and where dangerous enemies spawn as it is about pure DPS. Certainly pure DPS never hurts! And you will gain some more health each time you put a point into red CP tree and more DPS each time you put a point into blue CP tree.

But you are just not going to learn mechanics or start to instinctively move to where dangerous enemies are about to spawn if you keep dying from low health.

Also, your buffed health sounds low. I think CP150 health+stam food gives over 5000 health. But your "buffed" health stats look like less than that.

And if this is purely a VMA build, consider Blood Craze and Bloodthirst from Dual Wield. A little less DPS, but passive healing. You are going to take a lot of damage in VMA. It is more like 1vX PvP than a normal PvE dungeon. You do not have a tank to sop up damage or a healer to aid you. A normal dungeon-style DPS build is going to get you killed, at least until you learn the place inside out. You really need to balance self-healing with damage-dealing. And always keep Critical Surge up to get healing from Hurricane and Endless Hail. That will be a lot of self-healing. And with Bound Armaments and Hurricane, you get a lot of armor/spell resist for damage mitigation. And Dark Deal has a cast time, but is a nice burst heal.

As a stam sorc, you probably have enough mitigation and healing to get by without an active heal. But Vigor sure does not hurt! If you have not earned that from PvP, it might be worth getting. A solid day of repairing walls and defending Keeps should get you close to Vigor. It is nowhere near as hard to unlock as it used to be.

Lukums1

Hey mate,

Should probably watch my stream sometime.

"If you need help"

I guide players through each round with the gear they are currently running to show the best way to clear bosses/waves.

As far as TBS goes, I dropped it the return isn't good. Run NM instead with VO it's insanely fast.



If you ever need help 7PM GMT +10 Sydney Australia always happy and willing to help people

Saint_Bud

Build 2 sharpend hundings ore NMG daggers and put 2 health glyphs on the big armour pieces. With more cp your stats will be higher and you can replace them with stam glyps, also you can put points into health, with would be the cheapest way. But i recoment you new sharpent daggers with crit bonus. Also 5vo monsterset and 5hunding/NMG will be the best, but its hard at the first time with low health, so 18-20 will help you stay alive when you dont know the mechanics and span points.

Lukums1

https://www.twitch.tv/lukumms/v/100148367

My Flawless Stam Sorc Run

NMG 5 piece, 5 piece VO, 2 piece Khrags

This is the best dps you can get IMO
I've tried everything TBS, Hundings, NMG, Spriggen

The only thing I can think is better is two fang snake from trials but I'm missing 2 divines pieces.

Go Heavy,Light shoulders, get the undaunted passive.
Put infused on suit and pants tri stat enchants

I run 36k STAM 19.5k Health easy done.

To put in perspective I can clear it with a couple deaths with 25k STAM EASILY so it's not everything to lose
Also you still carry 62% crit which is fine.

This is what I suggest to people and so far so good.

rob_ber

@j_s vMA is evil place. But as a stamsorc, you should be able to blaze through most of the enemies there, as long you know the spawn points and mechanics. I started doing vMA with TBS and VO, but then at some point went to following setup:

* 5 VO (jewelry - weapon damage enchant, torso - health enchant and pants - stamina enchant)
* 5 Nightmothers (sharp axe - weap and spell damage enchant, sharp dagger - poison enchant, sharp bow - poison enchant, gloves, belt and boots - stamina enchant)
* 2 Velidreth/Stormfist/Kra'gh (1 piece heavy - stamina enchant, 1 piece light - stamina enchant)

As you can see I use one health enchant, just to be on safe side with that 18k health. Stamina really isn't an issue with Redguards. I swear the change from TBS to NM made a huge difference for me.
For mob rounds I usually use Veli/Stormfist for boss rounds I equip Kra'gh.
Skills I use:

* front bar (Axe & Dagger): Bloodcraze, Bloodthirst, Crit Surge, Hurricane, Bound Armaments + Rend as ulti
* off-bar (Bow): Endless Hail, Poison Injection, Dark Deal, Rearming Trap, Bound Armaments + Flawless Dawnbreaker as ulti

Yes, I'm running vMA without Vigor, because I'm too lazy to go to Cyro. And if you look at the main bar, I basically use 3 heals (Bloodcraze, Bloodthirst and Crit Surge) - they also scale off Quick Recovery, so try to put some CPs in that. As an emergency heal I use Dark Deal (sacrifice 3k magica for 8k health and 5k stamina) - that also scales off Quick Recovery. Oh, pots, I use Immovable potions (Immovable + Weapon Crit + Stamina).

Hope this helps you mate, I'm not saying this is the optimal build or meta build, but it works for me

UrbanMonk

Last night my GF finished VMSA with the following setup on her stam sorc-

5* Spriggan
5* Hunding
2* veli

All Devine / stam enchant/ purple weapon sharp with wep damage enchant on one.

She has appx 16.5k health and was using stam regen food. Orzahaga triple trifle. So as you can see you can finish it with suboptimal hear setup as well...all you need to do is practise and learn the mechanics .

In general your gear setup is great, however if you are having trouble with health. Slide a few points into health from stam.

UrbanMonk

j_s wrote: »

Hi community,

Here's my build:

Redguard Stamina Sorcerer with 395 CP, all 64 stats in Stamina.


The armor:
5x Vicious Ophidian and 5x Twice-Born Star
7x Medium Armor with Divine trait and Max Stamina Enchantement on all of them
All gold enhanced


The weapons:
Dual Wield Weapons are 1 Sharpened Dagger of Ashen Grip with Weapon Damage Enchantement and
1 Sharpened Dagger of Ashen Grip with Crusher Enchantement
Backup Weapon is 1 Precise Bow of Ashen Grip with Poisoned Weapon enchantement
All gold enhanced


The problem:
My Health basically, it's at 11,297 unbuffed and 15,759 buffed.


The question:
How can I raise my health in an efficient manner (i.e. without sacrificing too much Stamina or DPS)?


Thanks in advance for all helpful answers,
j_s

With your existing setup you have 2 options-

1. Farm 2 weapons of VO sharp and replace those NM daggers and put 2 pc Veli on. You get to keep your TBS this way. On my stam sorc I've done a few runs with 5TBS/ 2 veli/ 3 VO/ 2 MSA weps. Works fine but it's different setup to run later and I was too lazy to let go of my Mundus buff.
2. Remove TBS. make a new set of Night mothers Gaze. With 2 sharp weapon dagger-axe. And put 2 Veli on.

On back bar you can run any bow. Doesn't matter much...but get a weapon damage enchant for that one too.

For health...like I stated previously...put a few points into health or just put 1 heavy armour with health enchant and you should be fine with 17k appx health.

Hope this helps...

William_21

Try this:
x5 VO (3 Jewelry, 2 pieces) <-- hardest ones to get, yet you already have them!
x5 NMG (2 daggers (sharpened, weapon dmg + poison enchant, 3 pieces)
x2 Velidreth or x2 Kra'gh (I prefer Velidreth because of the instant kill potential)
7 medium or 6 med 1 heavy (helm or shoulder) if you want even more hp/stam
This gear setup is one of the best in vMA.

Spend 3200 gold to respec your attributes into 14 health / 50 stam.

That's 18.5k+ hp 32k+ stam with 80%+ crit chance.

I hope this helps you decide.

Lukums1

William_21 wrote: »

Try this:
x5 VO (3 Jewelry, 2 pieces) <-- hardest ones to get, yet you already have them!
x5 NMG (2 daggers (sharpened, weapon dmg + poison enchant, 3 pieces)
x2 Velidreth or x2 Kra'gh (I prefer Velidreth because of the instant kill potential)
7 medium or 6 med 1 heavy (helm or shoulder) if you want even more hp/stam
This gear setup is one of the best in vMA.

Spend 3200 gold to respec your attributes into 14 health / 50 stam.

That's 18.5k+ hp 32k+ stam with 80%+ crit chance.

I hope this helps you decide.

I use this setup infused helm/chest though for an additional 1k HP.

I run with 67% crit - 19.5k HP 33k stam and things still melt like butter.
Going to try Twice Fang Snake for the 5k Pen instead of 2.6 with NMG see how that goes tonight.