Is it time to update alliance war rewards ?

Rohamad_Ali

When we first started getting rewards for the worthy it wasn't so bad as most of the set pieces were very relevant and new compared to the original vendor items . Now that we have so many sets that are better for PvP from open world areas , should Sir Brian Wheeler look into new set drops for rewards for the worthy ? I for one don't really care for the majority of the set drops anymore because there is probably a better set combo out there from one Tamriel . I am curios to your thoughts and @ZOS_BrianWheeler thoughts on updating rewards .

Are you still satisfied getting Marksman , Vicious Death , Fury and the rest of the old rewards and do you still use them ? Would anyone like to see overland set pieces drop as well ? I know I would . I am just not excited with end of campaign rewards myself . What are your opinions of what should or should not being added to rewards of the worth or if just leave it the way it is .

Niaver

Elite Gear Vendor also needs some love.

Rohamad_Ali

Niaver wrote: »

Elite Gear Vendor also needs some love.

Most certainly as these are very outdated . I would even be happy if they just revamped some of the rewards with better stats and combos .

Manoekin

Would rather see it rotate and include overland sets. Do Light, Medium, Heavy, Weapon days with jewelry sprinkled in.

Also RNG boxes need to go imo. I won't sell my AP anymore because it's literally worth nothing and a big part of that is the buyer doesn't know what they're getting(plus the majority of the sets aren't even worth using). At the very least split the boxes into trait categories/armor, weapon, jewelry boxes. Like, I can get 1mil AP in a few days and barely sell it for 100k if I'm lucky, or I can spend a few hours farming flowers and make 100k in those few hours. In one case I barely make enough gold to sustain my pot buying, in the other I end up with extra pots for myself in addition to the gold.

Psilent

Manoekin wrote: »

Would rather see it rotate and include overland sets. Do Light, Medium, Heavy, Weapon days with jewelry sprinkled in.

Also RNG boxes need to go imo. I won't sell my AP anymore because it's literally worth nothing and a big part of that is the buyer doesn't know what they're getting(plus the majority of the sets aren't even worth using). At the very least split the boxes into trait categories/armor, weapon, jewelry boxes. Like, I can get 1mil AP in a few days and barely sell it for 100k if I'm lucky, or I can spend a few hours farming flowers and make 100k in those few hours. In one case I barely make enough gold to sustain my pot buying, in the other I end up with extra pots for myself in addition to the gold.

Take it one step further. Put crafting materials on a PvP vendor so I can buy columbine with my 15 million+ AP.

HoloYoitsu

Give me back my master weps in campaign rewards.

Manoekin

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Give me back my master weps in campaign rewards.

Yes please. Maelstrom too.

zyk

Manoekin wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Give me back my master weps in campaign rewards.

Yes please. Maelstrom too.

Yes, definitely. For those worried about zergers getting phat loot, there can be a Stormproof achievement requirement.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler: It does not make sense to force players who prefer PVP to grind PVE instances for hundreds of hours to remain competitive in PVP. This is the case now.

If we can prove we can beat vMA, please allow us to earn these items while doing what we enjoy. You will find that it makes us much happier customers who probably play more as a result.

Minno

For me, I'd rather have new objectives that add to the cyro score. But I can say, they could add ways to battle in pvp to gain additional tokens/unlock a gear merchant that lets you farm for the overland sets. And whatever score these objectives give, can add a way to flip the score so that keep battles aren't the only ways to win a campaign.

RadioheadSh0t

Maelstrom weapons need to be available through PvP. I'd pay a million AP for one Maelstrom weapon.

Astanphaeus

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

When we first started getting rewards for the worthy it wasn't so bad as most of the set pieces were very relevant and new compared to the original vendor items . Now that we have so many sets that are better for PvP from open world areas , should Sir Brian Wheeler look into new set drops for rewards for the worthy ? I for one don't really care for the majority of the set drops anymore because there is probably a better set combo out there from one Tamriel . I am curios to your thoughts and @ZOS_BrianWheeler thoughts on updating rewards .

Are you still satisfied getting Marksman , Vicious Death , Fury and the rest of the old rewards and do you still use them ? Would anyone like to see overland set pieces drop as well ? I know I would . I am just not excited with end of campaign rewards myself . What are your opinions of what should or should not being added to rewards of the worth or if just leave it the way it is .

Leave it alone.

Psilent wrote: »

Take it one step further. Put crafting materials on a PvP vendor so I can buy columbine with my 15 million+ AP.

No.

Dreyloch

Astanphaeus wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

When we first started getting rewards for the worthy it wasn't so bad as most of the set pieces were very relevant and new compared to the original vendor items . Now that we have so many sets that are better for PvP from open world areas , should Sir Brian Wheeler look into new set drops for rewards for the worthy ? I for one don't really care for the majority of the set drops anymore because there is probably a better set combo out there from one Tamriel . I am curios to your thoughts and @ZOS_BrianWheeler thoughts on updating rewards .

Are you still satisfied getting Marksman , Vicious Death , Fury and the rest of the old rewards and do you still use them ? Would anyone like to see overland set pieces drop as well ? I know I would . I am just not excited with end of campaign rewards myself . What are your opinions of what should or should not being added to rewards of the worth or if just leave it the way it is .

Leave it alone.

Psilent wrote: »

Take it one step further. Put crafting materials on a PvP vendor so I can buy columbine with my 15 million+ AP.

No.

What kind of replies are these? Don't bother if your gonna do this >=(

That said, I still use VD set sometimes OP, and I've been trying to get some AP for elfbane items. But that's about it. Fury, Fasalla's Guile, most anything else is at or below the standards of the overland sets. I also agree the gamble box idea for 50k a pop getting utterly useless crap...has to go.

zuto40

Update the rewards for sure, Add extra special farms in cyrodiil that grow flowers every hour, so many more changes that should be implemented, a pvp player should not have to play pve to be competitive in pvp, and a pve player not should have to play pvp to be competitive in pve

Minalan

Please update. If I get one more Leki staff, Fury resto, or vicious death two hand sword I'll scream.

Magus

I'm torn here. If they update it, it would give me a reason to stay in the top of the leaderboards only to get trolled by crap traits on things I don't want for the chance of something I might want. If they don't update it, I can play less PVP like ZOS wants me to. Casual 4 lyfe.

Sandman929

Or they could change from Rewards for the Worthy to Crap for You to Deconstruct

Manoekin

At the very least for Rewards for the Worthy I would like less spam. Increase the amount of AP it takes to get the reward and increase the rarity of the items to purple/ small chance for legendary. That way even if you get a resto staff of fury you might at least get a rosin out of it.

UppGRAYxDD

Definitely need to include all gear that specialized vendors sell in pvp towns. Also, no to maelstrom wpns but yes to master wpns being given to top % again.

Derra

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

Maelstrom weapons need to be available through PvP. I'd pay a million AP for one Maelstrom weapon.

Someone at ZOS: "DEAL!!! You´ll get rgn boxes with 90% training trait."

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

Definitely need to include all gear that specialized vendors sell in pvp towns. Also, no to maelstrom wpns but yes to master wpns being given to top % again.

I´d actually like to see the next skillaltering weapons to be pvp exclusive
Masters were both (somewhat)
Maelstrom is pve only
The next ones should be pvp only aquisition.

Joy_Division

More proof ZoS is, to put it kindly, neglectful of PvP.

What they basically did was update every single zone , dolmen, delve, and dungeon in the game to give out interesting loot except PvP.

heystreethawk

IMO Maelstrom is the best piece of content in the game behind Cyrodiil, and the only requirement is a certain amount of masochism / self-loathing, which PvPers have in abundance anyway. I think it rewards PvP-inclined skillsets in a way that trials and dungeons do not.

The RNG on weapons / jewelry is a nightmare, but that's a whole separate bucket of fish heads. I don't think we should be able to buy the weapons; however, I think we should have a chance to get overworld set pieces for RotW, because reward mails are nonsense atm unless you get sharpened Leki / VD weapons, which still sell really well. I wouldn't advocate for Maelstrom sets being added to the rotation, because only one of them is pretty good.

geonsocal

howdy @Rohamad_Ali ...

I read a lot of posts concerning the lack of coin many pvpers have...other than bounties, scrolls and objectives (which can be be very dependant on the participation of others) plus the 210 coins we get for rewards for the worthy every 10 thousand AP or so, there really isn't a big coin flow into cyro and IC...

as far as the gear which is rewarded - yes, it would be nice to see the sets rotated every few months, by now you would think just about every player in tamriel would have a set of the current pvp gear (they sell very cheaply)...set specific - i would love to see the wording on VD changed from player to enemy...

the main issue I have is with the 30 day campaign, end of campaign reward for the 2nd and 3rd place alliances - pvping by yourself is not a lot of fun...it would be nice if the 2nd and 3rs place rewards (tier 3) were boosted and included some purple gear/jewelry to provide more incentive for participation...zero gear and only about 13k coin for 30 days of participation seems pretty crappy...

Edit: one other pvp wish list thing - i would love to see the outposts replaced with towns...cuz, variety is the spice of life and we've all been fighting over the same exact terrain and structures for too long...

Rohamad_Ali

geonsocal wrote: »

howdy @Rohamad_Ali ...

I read a lot of posts concerning the lack of coin many pvpers have...other than bounties, scrolls and objectives (which can be be very dependant on the participation of others) plus the 210 coins we get for rewards for the worthy every 10 thousand AP or so, there really isn't a big coin flow into cyro and IC...

as far as the gear which is rewarded - yes, it would be nice to see the sets rotated every few months, by now you would think just about every player in tamriel would have a set of the current pvp gear (they sell very cheaply)...set specific - i would love to see the wording on VD changed from player to enemy...

the main issue I have is with the 30 day campaign, end of campaign reward for the 2nd and 3rd place alliances - pvping by yourself is not a lot of fun...it would be nice if the 2nd and 3rs place rewards (tier 3) were boosted and included some purple gear/jewelry to provide more incentive for participation...zero gear and only about 13k coin for 30 days of participation seems pretty crappy...

Edit: one other pvp wish list thing - i would love to see the outposts replaced with towns...cuz, variety is the spice of life and we've all been fighting over the same exact terrain and structures for too long...

Thank you for sharing your ideas .

Skinzz

Take out the rewards and just give us 500 gold for each reward for the worthy.

Knootewoot

The elite Gear Vendor also don't talk. She needs a voice to please.

Derra

Better title for this topic: It is time to update alliance war rewards.

Beardimus

Personally, I think VD has its place, anti Zerg, Marks an makes sense, PvP set. Can be used not just on bow builds if needed, Transmutation is an ok PvP Healer set. Aside from those three tho u sure on others, glory / fury is it?

I think they are ok to be honnest, and don't need to change to the gimmick sets.

Beardimus

As for the gold suggestion, these items at CP160 always sell for more than 500g!

There are plenty of ways to get Gold easily in the game, rewards should be sets IMO.

melek-taus

ZOS is working too much on PVE and DLC content that it seems they forget about PVP. For most of us PVP is why we play this game and it would be nice if it would be a bit rewarding. I do not have time to do DSA or farm overland/ dungeons and play PVP at the same time and I do not own VMA DLC so I'm stuck with the gear I can craft or purchase. Would be nice if PVP items would be more on par with PVE items as most PVP players spend the same effort and time in PVP as PVE ers do. So why do the PVE players get the good/ better loot?

Seems to me that ZOS prefers PVE players and you have to do PVE to get gear to use in PVP. Sounds strange to me to do PVE to get gear for the use in PVP.

I'd say put overland/ dungeon sets like Spriggans/ Hulk/ Viper etc in PVP same goes for Masters or make a pure PVP based weapon which can for example be rewarded after hitting first sergeant or after getting 1 mil AP. O hell just give us a RNG box we can purchase for 100k ap which can award a PVP weapon with random trait.

Alucardo

PVP gear definitely needs some TLC. I can't imagine there's very many people still using the PVP sets, and if they do then it's very niche.

- Fassala for heal debuff tanks
- Vicious Death for magblade bombers, or trolls on siege
- Marksman for people who make use of the bow. The stam cost reduction may be useful in non-CP campaigns, but you're probably better off with VO anyway for the 8% cost reduction and getting stam back from kills. Mobility is great in PVP too.

I used to use 2pc leki for the weapon damage because it was easy to get, but who needs 2pc leki now you can drop better overland and dungeon sets in jewellery?

Grinding overland you can get sets that increase your damage, boost your stats, proc fire every 2 seconds, increase your crit, increase your spell/weapon penetration. Grinding dungeons in Cyrodiil will get you sets that make your mount run faster. Please.

Derra

Alucardo wrote: »

Grinding dungeons in Cyrodiil will get you sets that make your mount run faster. Please.

But people are complaining about horsesimulator 2k16. Atleast zos can tell them to equip a set so they can ride faster.

On a sidenote: Can we remove camps again? There´s a set to ride faster - i think that´s enough.