[VIDEO] Cheeseless stamblade 1T

zuto40

Here's my current 1T stamblade, a cheeseless build for those of you who are lactose intolerant, voiceover done in 1 take any mistakes are of pure laziness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfzJe9tOiUs

Sandman929

Cheeseless? Selene's?

Sandman929

I think the lactose intolerant would still suffer some abdominal cramping here.

zuto40

Sandman929 wrote: »

Cheeseless? Selene's?

Doesnt work at all vs magic classes since it requires direct physical damage and only 15% proc chance, nice try

Stoopid_Nwah

zuto40 wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

Cheeseless? Selene's?

Doesnt work at all vs magic classes since it requires direct physical damage and only 15% proc chance, nice try

Wait what? But you would be doing direct melee damage to proc it...so it would work vs magicka classes.

susmitds

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

Cheeseless? Selene's?

Doesnt work at all vs magic classes since it requires direct physical damage and only 15% proc chance, nice try

Wait what? But you would be doing direct melee damage to proc it...so it would work vs magicka classes.

Selene's damage only takes place at the end of the animation and only if you stand in place. Also the proc is only from direct damage and rather low in chance. Which is the only reason why stamblades still prefer Velidreth.

Stoopid_Nwah

susmitds wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

Cheeseless? Selene's?

Doesnt work at all vs magic classes since it requires direct physical damage and only 15% proc chance, nice try

Wait what? But you would be doing direct melee damage to proc it...so it would work vs magicka classes.

Selene's damage only takes place at the end of the animation and only if you stand in place. Also the proc is only from direct damage and rather low in chance. Which is the only reason why stamblades still prefer Velidreth.

Yeah that I know and get, I'm saying the op shouldn't claim it doesn't ever hit magicka builds lol...that's just nonsense.

zuto40

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

Cheeseless? Selene's?

Doesnt work at all vs magic classes since it requires direct physical damage and only 15% proc chance, nice try

Wait what? But you would be doing direct melee damage to proc it...so it would work vs magicka classes.

Selene's damage only takes place at the end of the animation and only if you stand in place. Also the proc is only from direct damage and rather low in chance. Which is the only reason why stamblades still prefer Velidreth.

Yeah that I know and get, I'm saying the op shouldn't claim it doesn't ever hit magicka builds lol...that's just nonsense.

Ive of course hit a few magic players with it but generally if i catch a magic player with their shields down theyre already dead without selenes

Lava_Croft

I think your definition of cheese needs a rework.

Asmael

Sheogorath disapproves diz thread.

Sandman929

zuto40 wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

Cheeseless? Selene's?

Doesnt work at all vs magic classes since it requires direct physical damage and only 15% proc chance, nice try

Nice try? LOL....you're the one claiming cheeselessness with a high damage proc set.

Lexxypwns

Selene's and major vitality pots, but this is cheese-less?

No

Lava_Croft

Guys check out my cheese-less Reactive/Transmutation/Malubeth MagPlar build!

zuto40

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Selene's and major vitality pots, but this is cheese-less?

No

Selenes is one of the weakest dmg proc helms for stam and you can use any pots, no pot is build specific, ive been exclusively using basic stam pots for the last 3 weeks

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Guys check out my cheese-less Reactive/Transmutation/Malubeth MagPlar build!

Not even close to what my build is, every set there is cheesy, the only one remotely cheesy is selenes which is *** vs almost every magic class due to shields

Lava_Croft

Transmutation is cheese, confirmed by StamBlade using Selene.

GreenSoup2HoT

cheeseless.... uses fear..

my builds are fear-less because i have no fear

thankyourat

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

cheeseless.... uses fear..

my builds are fear-less because i have no fear

Lol what wrong with fear

kadar

Lol at the people in this thread. Strong does not equal cheese...

Hey @zuto40 , nice video. One thing I noticed is you've got a bit of redundancy running immovable brute. It grants the Major Resolve/Ward buffs which we Stamblades already have whenever we cast a Shadow ability. If you still want to use an ability slot just for 5 seconds of CC immunity, you could, but it seems like there might be other good options for that slot.

Sandman929

I actually don't have any problems with the build. In the current ESO environment, sticking to one proc set is damned admirable....but it's not cheese-less.

Stoopid_Nwah

Sandman929 wrote: »

I actually don't have any problems with the build. In the current ESO environment, sticking to one proc set is damned admirable....but it's not cheese-less.

Not to mention Selenes is possibly bugged.

Lexxypwns

zuto40 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Selene's and major vitality pots, but this is cheese-less?

No

Selenes is one of the weakest dmg proc helms for stam and you can use any pots, no pot is build specific, ive been exclusively using basic stam pots for the last 3 weeks

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Guys check out my cheese-less Reactive/Transmutation/Malubeth MagPlar build!

Not even close to what my build is, every set there is cheesy, the only one remotely cheesy is selenes which is *** vs almost every magic class due to shields

Look, 90% of cyrodiil runs some sort of cheese, I'm not criticizing you for it and I'm certain the build doesn't rely on major vitality, but that doesn't mean there's no cheese here.

GreenSoup2HoT

thankyourat wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

cheeseless.... uses fear..

my builds are fear-less because i have no fear

Lol what wrong with fear

1: You dont need skill to use fear. (Not like skill is required to play this game anyway)
2: Its consistantly unbreakable in lag.
3: To be honest it gives you to many effects plus a cc that goes through block (snare and minor maim).

It just flat out feels cheese to use. Id rather drain a perma blockers stamina while hes blocking then cc him through block.

Nothings wrong with people using fear. There is somthing wrong with fear being unbreakable though.

Id rather not relie on it is all. Id rather use incap or surprise att to stun honestly. My builds are 1hit ko's anyway, so its a waste of a slot.

Lexxypwns

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

thankyourat wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

cheeseless.... uses fear..

my builds are fear-less because i have no fear

Lol what wrong with fear

1: You dont need skill to use fear. (Not like skill is required to play this game anyway)
2: Its consistantly unbreakable in lag.
3: To be honest it gives you to many effects plus a cc that goes through block (snare and minor maim).

It just flat out feels cheese to use. Id rather drain a perma blockers stamina while hes blocking then cc him through block.

Nothings wrong with people using fear. There is somthing wrong with fear being unbreakable though.

Id rather not relie on it is all. Id rather use incap or surprise att to stun honestly. My builds are 1hit ko's anyway, so its a waste of a slot.

It's pretty near impossible to run block builds out of Stam without CC unless they're trash cans

Kutsuu

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

thankyourat wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

cheeseless.... uses fear..

my builds are fear-less because i have no fear

Lol what wrong with fear

1: You dont need skill to use fear. (Not like skill is required to play this game anyway)
2: Its consistantly unbreakable in lag.
3: To be honest it gives you to many effects plus a cc that goes through block (snare and minor maim).

It just flat out feels cheese to use. Id rather drain a perma blockers stamina while hes blocking then cc him through block.

Nothings wrong with people using fear. There is somthing wrong with fear being unbreakable though.

Id rather not relie on it is all. Id rather use incap or surprise att to stun honestly. My builds are 1hit ko's anyway, so its a waste of a slot.

Lag causing break free delay is not unique to fear. Also fear is one of the very few (if not only) ability that a stamblade has to counter someone permablocking - it's also far from the only CC that bypasses block, there are quite a few that do. It's also great for Xv1 since it can hit multiple targets. What would you suggest we use for CC instead?

I run a pretty similar build to the OP - for a while I tried running Kra'gh + Kena instead of a 2-piece set in order to have ZERO procs, and that works fine against medium armor builds and the squishier/low CP magicka or heavy armor builds. However, all of these tanky stam builds and tanky Magicka builds (shields) can handle the DPS pressure and heal/shield through it because my DPS is all pressure and doesn't have the burst component that the monster set proc gives. With the one proc, you keep up the DPS pressure then go into your best burst combo when the proc goes off and sometimes you finally get them down. IMO, what the OP has done is as cheeseless as it gets while still being effective against the nastier builds in Cyrodiil right now.

zuto40

The_Outsider wrote: »

Lol at the people in this thread. Strong does not equal cheese...

Hey @zuto40 , nice video. One thing I noticed is you've got a bit of redundancy running immovable brute. It grants the Major Resolve/Ward buffs which we Stamblades already have whenever we cast a Shadow ability. If you still want to use an ability slot just for 5 seconds of CC immunity, you could, but it seems like there might be other good options for that slot.

it is purely for the 5 seconds of cc immunity but the major buffs also help cause my magic is pretty strained when fighting multiple people with fear, siphoning, resolve, and cloak.

And another thing, when using this build the strongest enemies ive found are magic classes instead of proclords since i cant armor pen a shield and selenes doesnt proc off shields

Lexxypwns

zuto40 wrote: »

The_Outsider wrote: »

Lol at the people in this thread. Strong does not equal cheese...

Hey @zuto40 , nice video. One thing I noticed is you've got a bit of redundancy running immovable brute. It grants the Major Resolve/Ward buffs which we Stamblades already have whenever we cast a Shadow ability. If you still want to use an ability slot just for 5 seconds of CC immunity, you could, but it seems like there might be other good options for that slot.

it is purely for the 5 seconds of cc immunity but the major buffs also help cause my magic is pretty strained when fighting multiple people with fear, siphoning, resolve, and cloak.

And another thing, when using this build the strongest enemies ive found are magic classes instead of proclords since i cant armor pen a shield and selenes doesnt proc off shields

I think the prevelance of spinner/spriggan is gonna work as a ninja buff to shields. Have you played around with pirate king on your mageblade yet? That dampen shield becomes ridiculous with the damage reduction and major vitality pots negate the heal debuff

zuto40

Lexxypwns wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

The_Outsider wrote: »

Lol at the people in this thread. Strong does not equal cheese...

Hey @zuto40 , nice video. One thing I noticed is you've got a bit of redundancy running immovable brute. It grants the Major Resolve/Ward buffs which we Stamblades already have whenever we cast a Shadow ability. If you still want to use an ability slot just for 5 seconds of CC immunity, you could, but it seems like there might be other good options for that slot.

it is purely for the 5 seconds of cc immunity but the major buffs also help cause my magic is pretty strained when fighting multiple people with fear, siphoning, resolve, and cloak.

And another thing, when using this build the strongest enemies ive found are magic classes instead of proclords since i cant armor pen a shield and selenes doesnt proc off shields

I think the prevelance of spinner/spriggan is gonna work as a ninja buff to shields. Have you played around with pirate king on your mageblade yet? That dampen shield becomes ridiculous with the damage reduction and major vitality pots negate the heal debuff

My mageblade became my stamblade, and i dont have the head for pirate king so no but i hadnt thought of that before

raasdal

Lexxypwns wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

The_Outsider wrote: »

Lol at the people in this thread. Strong does not equal cheese...

Hey @zuto40 , nice video. One thing I noticed is you've got a bit of redundancy running immovable brute. It grants the Major Resolve/Ward buffs which we Stamblades already have whenever we cast a Shadow ability. If you still want to use an ability slot just for 5 seconds of CC immunity, you could, but it seems like there might be other good options for that slot.

it is purely for the 5 seconds of cc immunity but the major buffs also help cause my magic is pretty strained when fighting multiple people with fear, siphoning, resolve, and cloak.

And another thing, when using this build the strongest enemies ive found are magic classes instead of proclords since i cant armor pen a shield and selenes doesnt proc off shields

I think the prevelance of spinner/spriggan is gonna work as a ninja buff to shields. Have you played around with pirate king on your mageblade yet? That dampen shield becomes ridiculous with the damage reduction and major vitality pots negate the heal debuff

Dont use Vitality pots with the Pirate Monster Set. Just invest in Health Regen, as that is not debuffed by it. But at that point, i find Troll King to be overall more effective, if you are already investing in Health Regen...

kadar

zuto40 wrote: »

The_Outsider wrote: »

Lol at the people in this thread. Strong does not equal cheese...

Hey @zuto40 , nice video. One thing I noticed is you've got a bit of redundancy running immovable brute. It grants the Major Resolve/Ward buffs which we Stamblades already have whenever we cast a Shadow ability. If you still want to use an ability slot just for 5 seconds of CC immunity, you could, but it seems like there might be other good options for that slot.

it is purely for the 5 seconds of cc immunity but the major buffs also help cause my magic is pretty strained when fighting multiple people with fear, siphoning, resolve, and cloak.

And another thing, when using this build the strongest enemies ive found are magic classes instead of proclords since i cant armor pen a shield and selenes doesnt proc off shields

@zuto40 , well that's what I mean. You're not getting any benefit out of the major buff part of the skill, since Surprise Attack and Cloak both grant those major buffs. So whether you're attacking or defending you've already got em. I get wanting the CC immunity tho, so whatever floats your boat.

Akinos

Cheeseless you say?!?! ALLOW ME TO FIX THAT:

ku5h

thankyourat wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

cheeseless.... uses fear..

my builds are fear-less because i have no fear

Lol what wrong with fear

If you play as NB you are not allowed to use any NB skills, or you'r considered skill les scrub.