New Alliance Hairstyles Bugged

GhostwalkerLD

The new alliance hairstyles are not using the hair color selected by the character, but instead change it noticeably upon both preview as well as being bought. For example, one of my characters, Faron-dar, has jet-black fur and hair, and when he previewed the new hair styles (Alliance War Braid, etc.), the hair was... dark BLUE? Like, anime-colored. On all three of them. I confirmed this by asking in guild, and others reported similar hair-color changes.

Similarly, the alliance tattoos are likewise not using the character's chosen skin color/fur color, and instead are changing it when they are adopted (instead of just putting the tattoo over it).

Please fix this issue!

@ZOS_GinaBruno

http://i.imgur.com/phRyoYg.jpg

Screenshot attached. My character's original appearance is in the upper left, but the appearance with the crown store items equipped is noticeably different. He does NOT have the base skin color/fur color with the tattoos, and his hair color is obviously very different. In fact, I don't think that hair color has ever been seen as a default option for khajiit? Though it does give me hope we can someday have Razum-dar's ruby red ;3




Attached is another screenshot which demonstrates the lack of issue with the Elven Long Braid and one of the default hairstyles for khajiit, with the alliance hairstyle in the middle.

Balibe

AFAIK this is not an issue to be fixed, the hair and tattoos colors are based on the alliance just like the Rider Hoods. I may be incorrect, a ZOS will need to confirm .....

Abeille

Maybe post some screen shots? I don't have this problem. The tattoos are all black and the hair styles are the exact same color as my characters' hair style - in fact, the character that is wearing the AD hair style has black hair.

Also, body tattoos replace fur/scale pattern and are put over the base color you picked for your khajiit or argonian.

GhostwalkerLD

Abeille wrote: »

Maybe post some screen shots? I don't have this problem. The tattoos are all black and the hair styles are the exact same color as my characters' hair style - in fact, the character that is wearing the AD hair style has black hair.

Also, body tattoos replace fur/scale pattern and are put over the base color you picked for your khajiit or argonian.

I have edited the post with screenshots taken in game just now. If you are still unconvinced that this is an issue for folks, well.. *shrug*

ListerJMC

No I've seen other people complain of that same hair colour change issue, but it hasn't happened on any of mine that I've looked at it on (tested with white, red, and dark brown).

In addition to the colour bug, that particular hairstyle is bugged when worn by males (at least male elves) as shown in this screenshot: a chunk of hair is sunken into the back of the head.



**The armor clipping was an annoying extra bonus bug due to the Mages Guild shawl ignoring gravity and sitting on air above the shoulders .

A fix would be awesome, I'm curious as to how these issues weren't picked up on the PTS? Or are they new bugs associated with implementing them on live?

Abeille

GhostwalkerLD wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Maybe post some screen shots? I don't have this problem. The tattoos are all black and the hair styles are the exact same color as my characters' hair style - in fact, the character that is wearing the AD hair style has black hair.

Also, body tattoos replace fur/scale pattern and are put over the base color you picked for your khajiit or argonian.

I have edited the post with screenshots taken in game just now. If you are still unconvinced that this is an issue for folks, well.. *shrug*

I see what the problem is. It is the texture of the hair. That's why I didn't have this problem with my character with black hair: Her hair was already straight.

It is not a bug with the color, it is the difference on how lighting works on straight hair and on dreads.

ListerJMC

Abeille wrote: »

GhostwalkerLD wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Maybe post some screen shots? I don't have this problem. The tattoos are all black and the hair styles are the exact same color as my characters' hair style - in fact, the character that is wearing the AD hair style has black hair.

Also, body tattoos replace fur/scale pattern and are put over the base color you picked for your khajiit or argonian.

I have edited the post with screenshots taken in game just now. If you are still unconvinced that this is an issue for folks, well.. *shrug*

I see what the problem is. It is the texture of the hair. That's why I didn't have this problem with my character with black hair: Her hair was already straight.

It is not a bug with the color, it is the difference on how lighting works on straight hair and on dreads.

Well if that's the case that it's a texture issue, then I can confirm that fros are not affected by it. I just tested it on my Redguard and his hair stayed black.

Abeille

ListerJMC wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

GhostwalkerLD wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Maybe post some screen shots? I don't have this problem. The tattoos are all black and the hair styles are the exact same color as my characters' hair style - in fact, the character that is wearing the AD hair style has black hair.

Also, body tattoos replace fur/scale pattern and are put over the base color you picked for your khajiit or argonian.

I have edited the post with screenshots taken in game just now. If you are still unconvinced that this is an issue for folks, well.. *shrug*

I see what the problem is. It is the texture of the hair. That's why I didn't have this problem with my character with black hair: Her hair was already straight.

It is not a bug with the color, it is the difference on how lighting works on straight hair and on dreads.

Well if that's the case that it's a texture issue, then I can confirm that fros are not affected by it. I just tested it on my Redguard and his hair stayed black.

That can be the case, but then it is not limited to the Crown Store hair styles. I noticed that my Bosmer's hair color (red) looks different when she wears her default style ("By Kyne, It's Humid") and when she wears any straight hair style.

Edit: Also, it might be worth noting that not all races have access to the same tone of black, and straight black hair looks different on different races.

ListerJMC

Abeille wrote: »

ListerJMC wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

GhostwalkerLD wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Maybe post some screen shots? I don't have this problem. The tattoos are all black and the hair styles are the exact same color as my characters' hair style - in fact, the character that is wearing the AD hair style has black hair.

Also, body tattoos replace fur/scale pattern and are put over the base color you picked for your khajiit or argonian.

I have edited the post with screenshots taken in game just now. If you are still unconvinced that this is an issue for folks, well.. *shrug*

I see what the problem is. It is the texture of the hair. That's why I didn't have this problem with my character with black hair: Her hair was already straight.

It is not a bug with the color, it is the difference on how lighting works on straight hair and on dreads.

Well if that's the case that it's a texture issue, then I can confirm that fros are not affected by it. I just tested it on my Redguard and his hair stayed black.

That can be the case, but then it is not limited to the Crown Store hair styles. I noticed that my Bosmer's hair color (red) looks different when she wears her default style ("By Kyne, It's Humid") and when she wears any straight hair style.

Oh yes I've noticed that too on the default styles, particularly with my characters with red and dark brown hair. Hair turning blue seems really odd though... does that happen with the default styles too or is it just exclusive to this hairstyle, OP?

GhostwalkerLD

Abeille wrote: »

GhostwalkerLD wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Maybe post some screen shots? I don't have this problem. The tattoos are all black and the hair styles are the exact same color as my characters' hair style - in fact, the character that is wearing the AD hair style has black hair.

Also, body tattoos replace fur/scale pattern and are put over the base color you picked for your khajiit or argonian.

I have edited the post with screenshots taken in game just now. If you are still unconvinced that this is an issue for folks, well.. *shrug*

I see what the problem is. It is the texture of the hair. That's why I didn't have this problem with my character with black hair: Her hair was already straight.

It is not a bug with the color, it is the difference on how lighting works on straight hair and on dreads.

No, it has nothing to do with the texture of the hair. It IS a bug with the color: I also bought and use the Elven Long Braid on my khajiit, and it is the exact same color as their normal hair. I even tried it on Faron-dar, and the effect is the same. With all of the hair styles, except these new alliance ones, his hair remains it's normal jet-black color. ONLY this one changes to BLUE. Please do not try to marginalize this issue any further.

GhostwalkerLD

ListerJMC wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

ListerJMC wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

GhostwalkerLD wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Maybe post some screen shots? I don't have this problem. The tattoos are all black and the hair styles are the exact same color as my characters' hair style - in fact, the character that is wearing the AD hair style has black hair.

Also, body tattoos replace fur/scale pattern and are put over the base color you picked for your khajiit or argonian.

I have edited the post with screenshots taken in game just now. If you are still unconvinced that this is an issue for folks, well.. *shrug*

I see what the problem is. It is the texture of the hair. That's why I didn't have this problem with my character with black hair: Her hair was already straight.

It is not a bug with the color, it is the difference on how lighting works on straight hair and on dreads.

Well if that's the case that it's a texture issue, then I can confirm that fros are not affected by it. I just tested it on my Redguard and his hair stayed black.

That can be the case, but then it is not limited to the Crown Store hair styles. I noticed that my Bosmer's hair color (red) looks different when she wears her default style ("By Kyne, It's Humid") and when she wears any straight hair style.

Oh yes I've noticed that too on the default styles, particularly with my characters with red and dark brown hair. Hair turning blue seems really odd though... does that happen with the default styles too or is it just exclusive to this hairstyle, OP?

It doesn't happen with -any- other hairstyle, even the new Elven Long Braid. It only happens with these "Alliance" hair styles. To me that is an obvious indication that something is wrong with the color and that these hairstyles should all be looked at by the devs.

Abeille

GhostwalkerLD wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

GhostwalkerLD wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Maybe post some screen shots? I don't have this problem. The tattoos are all black and the hair styles are the exact same color as my characters' hair style - in fact, the character that is wearing the AD hair style has black hair.

Also, body tattoos replace fur/scale pattern and are put over the base color you picked for your khajiit or argonian.

I have edited the post with screenshots taken in game just now. If you are still unconvinced that this is an issue for folks, well.. *shrug*

I see what the problem is. It is the texture of the hair. That's why I didn't have this problem with my character with black hair: Her hair was already straight.

It is not a bug with the color, it is the difference on how lighting works on straight hair and on dreads.

No, it has nothing to do with the texture of the hair. It IS a bug with the color: I also bought and use the Elven Long Braid on my khajiit, and it is the exact same color as their normal hair. I even tried it on Faron-dar, and the effect is the same. With all of the hair styles, except these new alliance ones, his hair remains it's normal jet-black color. ONLY this one changes to BLUE. Please do not try to marginalize this issue any further.

Did you test with other races?
In other races, the problems are with other colors, like red and dark brown, but not with black, and they happen with all hair styles that have that kind of straight texture, not only with the Alliance hair styles. It might come down with the kind of black that is available to Khajiit, which is not the same black that is available to other races.

Default Khajiiti hair style does not use the same kind of texture that the straight hair on other races. The Elven Long Braid is closer to the texture of default Khajiiti hair, which isn't the case with the Alliance hair styles.

I'm not trying to marginalize this issue, I'm trying to pinpoint the problem. Rest assured, if there is one thing I take very seriously is black hair.

GhostwalkerLD

Abeille wrote: »

GhostwalkerLD wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

GhostwalkerLD wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Maybe post some screen shots? I don't have this problem. The tattoos are all black and the hair styles are the exact same color as my characters' hair style - in fact, the character that is wearing the AD hair style has black hair.

Also, body tattoos replace fur/scale pattern and are put over the base color you picked for your khajiit or argonian.

I have edited the post with screenshots taken in game just now. If you are still unconvinced that this is an issue for folks, well.. *shrug*

I see what the problem is. It is the texture of the hair. That's why I didn't have this problem with my character with black hair: Her hair was already straight.

It is not a bug with the color, it is the difference on how lighting works on straight hair and on dreads.

No, it has nothing to do with the texture of the hair. It IS a bug with the color: I also bought and use the Elven Long Braid on my khajiit, and it is the exact same color as their normal hair. I even tried it on Faron-dar, and the effect is the same. With all of the hair styles, except these new alliance ones, his hair remains it's normal jet-black color. ONLY this one changes to BLUE. Please do not try to marginalize this issue any further.

Did you test with other races?
In other races, the problems are with other colors, like red and dark brown, but not with black, and they happen with all hair styles that have that kind of straight texture, not only with the Alliance hair styles. It might come down with the kind of black that is available to Khajiit, which is not the same black that is available to other races.

Default Khajiiti hair style does not use the same kind of texture that the straight hair on other races. The Elven Long Braid is closer to the texture of default Khajiiti hair, which isn't the case with the Alliance hair styles.

I'm not trying to marginalize this issue, I'm trying to pinpoint the problem. Rest assured, if there is one thing I take very seriously is black hair.

No, I haven't tested it with any other races, I only play Khajiit characters (and one Argonian, but he's the odd one out and (obviously) doesn't have hair to test).

Whatever the problem, I hope they fix it soon.

I've edited to add another picture demonstrating the comparison.

Abeille

GhostwalkerLD wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

GhostwalkerLD wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

GhostwalkerLD wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Maybe post some screen shots? I don't have this problem. The tattoos are all black and the hair styles are the exact same color as my characters' hair style - in fact, the character that is wearing the AD hair style has black hair.

Also, body tattoos replace fur/scale pattern and are put over the base color you picked for your khajiit or argonian.

I have edited the post with screenshots taken in game just now. If you are still unconvinced that this is an issue for folks, well.. *shrug*

I see what the problem is. It is the texture of the hair. That's why I didn't have this problem with my character with black hair: Her hair was already straight.

It is not a bug with the color, it is the difference on how lighting works on straight hair and on dreads.

No, it has nothing to do with the texture of the hair. It IS a bug with the color: I also bought and use the Elven Long Braid on my khajiit, and it is the exact same color as their normal hair. I even tried it on Faron-dar, and the effect is the same. With all of the hair styles, except these new alliance ones, his hair remains it's normal jet-black color. ONLY this one changes to BLUE. Please do not try to marginalize this issue any further.

Did you test with other races?
In other races, the problems are with other colors, like red and dark brown, but not with black, and they happen with all hair styles that have that kind of straight texture, not only with the Alliance hair styles. It might come down with the kind of black that is available to Khajiit, which is not the same black that is available to other races.

Default Khajiiti hair style does not use the same kind of texture that the straight hair on other races. The Elven Long Braid is closer to the texture of default Khajiiti hair, which isn't the case with the Alliance hair styles.

I'm not trying to marginalize this issue, I'm trying to pinpoint the problem. Rest assured, if there is one thing I take very seriously is black hair.

No, I haven't tested it with any other races, I only play Khajiit characters (and one Argonian, but he's the odd one out and (obviously) doesn't have hair to test).

Whatever the problem, I hope they fix it soon.

I've edited to add another picture demonstrating the comparison.

Yes, I see, I think the problem really is the kind of black that is available to the Khajiit. So with this, I add Khajiit to my list of races that do not have access to a true black color in the game, along with Altmer and Nord

ListerJMC

Yeah whatever the issue is, some dev attention on these hairstyles would be appreciated something's gone wrong with how they've been added to the game. I can't find anything indicating that they were like this on the PTS.

Abeille

ListerJMC wrote: »

Yeah whatever the issue is, some dev attention on these hairstyles would be appreciated something's gone wrong with how they've been added to the game. I can't find anything indicating that they were like this on the PTS.

The AD hair style was called "Windhelm Wavenet" on the PTS and it couldn't be worn by Khajiit, which is why no one was able to identify the problem. The other Alliance hair styles were not made available on the PTS at any point.

ListerJMC

Abeille wrote: »

ListerJMC wrote: »

Yeah whatever the issue is, some dev attention on these hairstyles would be appreciated something's gone wrong with how they've been added to the game. I can't find anything indicating that they were like this on the PTS.

The AD hair style was called "Windhelm Wavenet" on the PTS and it couldn't be worn by Khajiit, which is why no one was able to identify the problem. The other Alliance hair styles were not made available on the PTS at any point.

Ah I see, I knew it was under a different name but I didn't realise khajiit didn't have access to it. I wonder what happened to the sunken-in hair, maybe very few used it on a male? Hmm anyway hopefully these styles do get looked at .

LadyNalcarya

Yeah.. Looks like its bugged with this particular hair color. Here's a comparison.
On a brown-haired khajiit - nothing changed:

On a black-haired khajiit:

Same blue-ish hue.
Gonna test it with black-haired human and elf chars.
Edit: apparently its not bugged for elves and humans:

GhostwalkerLD

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Yeah.. Looks like its bugged with this particular hair color. Here's a comparison.
On a brown-haired khajiit - nothing changed:

On a black-haired khajiit:

Same blue-ish hue.
Gonna test it with black-haired human and elf chars.
Edit: apparently its not bugged for elves and humans:

Yeah. Seems to be uniquely a kitty problem. *sigh*

@ZOS_GinaBruno , halp!

GhostwalkerLD

Hmm, and still nothing. @ZOS_GinaBruno, can we please at least get an acknowledgement of this bug? Halp!!