Running VMSA for someone else

Koolio

Is this frowned upon? Or a violation of terms? Would I get banned?

Just want to make sure since I see people offering to do it in other eso communities.

Ps4 Na Shareplay?

MissBizz

Sharing accounts is a bannable offence (against TOS), and that's essentially what is happening if someone uses your account to run vmsa or vice versa.

Katahdin

Sharing an account is against the TOS and is a bannable offense. Proceed with caution.

Stoopid_Nwah

Violation? Yes. Do people judge you for it? I can't speak for everyone, but I know I judge quite harshly when I find out people had others run it for them.

Practice and do it yourself. Tons of us here are more than willing to give advice if you need it!

Junipus

To run it for others afaik involves giving account access to someone else as the only means.

Giving someone else account access to your account not only is incredibly dangerous but also breaks the TOS and leaves you banned with the other person not suffering any consequences.

I'd suggest teaching others the tactics and mechanics if you wanted to help someone, otherwise not to go near such things unless you want to risk your account being permabanned.

UrQuan

Definitely against the TOS, and definitely something that people have been banned for in the past. It's just a bad idea.

Koolio

I beat this almost daily. So some on the Facebook page said they were running it for people. So I just wanted to be sure before I did something. I really like my account so *** that I'm not doing it for no one. Don't care the price.

But it is on Ps4 so it's share playing. Which means your not sharing your account.

Yea I've just been offering advise as of now since I've ran with all magic and stam classes.

If I could have a official comment about this so that I may post it to the Facebook page. I don't want to have players banned when they do not know it was against ToS

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_KaiSchober
@ZOS_KaiSchober

Asardes

If someone was dumb enough to give me access to his account I will mail all gold tempers he has to my own

kylewwefan

It's not really sharing an account with remote play. Though I wouldn't do it.

psychotic13

Asardes wrote: »

If someone was dumb enough to give me access to his account I will mail all gold tempers he has to my own

And decon his best gear for the lolz

Besides, i cba doing vMSA myself let alone would I want to do it for someone else

Solus

There is no way im letting anyone even on my computer. lol

I dont give out account info either. Not even to my older brother xD
MINE! DONT TOUCH IT!

Curtdogg47

Sounds like a good way to get screwed over.

DHale

Bannable.... unless you are a streamer as they seem to get away with it. A lot.

Panda_iMunch

Sharing is a ban-able offence unless you're famous in the ESO community, then they'll bend the rules for you.

Junipus

Koolio wrote: »

I beat this almost daily. So some on the Facebook page said they were running it for people. So I just wanted to be sure before I did something. I really like my account so *** that I'm not doing it for no one. Don't care the price.

But it is on Ps4 so it's share playing. Which means your not sharing your account.

Yea I've just been offering advise as of now since I've ran with all magic and stam classes.

If I could have a official comment about this so that I may post it to the Facebook page. I don't want to have players banned when they do not know it was against ToS

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_KaiSchober
@ZOS_KaiSchober

From what I understand, PS4 Remote Play basically allows you to stream onto other devices within your home network. I PC master race so had to go looking and while you can share your PSN account on multiple devices, your ESO account is still subject to ZOS' ToS which would result in a nice permaban.

Simply click on the Terms of Service link at the bottom of this page and copy the part about account sharing to the facebook post.

Solus

DHale wrote: »

Bannable.... unless you are a streamer as they seem to get away with it. A lot.

Famous streamers also promote the game. Taking them out by a technicality would upset more people than they want. So its a slap on the wrist.

But the rest of us will be hung for it

Eleusian

PS4 has share play. It's a system feature. I know at one time many of the leaderboard characters were a few people helping others out on PS4 NA.

NewBlacksmurf

In context to the PS4 share, it's fair game.

It's why ZOS really needs to understand the consoles before they come up with content.
It was brought up over a year ago......womp womp....ignored on the forums

Brrrofski

The PS4 things let's you play a ps4 account. It encourages it.

But ESO has a rule specific to the eso account. Only one person can play per eso account. The ps4 thing is completely irrelevant.

So yeh, it's a violation.

Do people care? Not really.

NewBlacksmurf

Brrrofski wrote: »

The PS4 things let's you play a ps4 account. It encourages it.

But ESO has a rule specific to the eso account. Only one person can play per eso account. The ps4 thing is completely irrelevant.

So yeh, it's a violation.

Do people care? Not really.

As proven over and over again....any developers terms do not and cannot superceed the consoles. Literally it's the other way around. ZOS has to comply with all the console features which is why it's not a violation because no one is sharing their account. Hey are using PS share which is the account holder allowing another person to remote access on the PSN and play while the account holder is in control.

Please don't confuse ppl it's not that they are doing anything wrong. It's just a good question

Simply stated it's not an account share.
It's a controller share...the account is still locked to the account holder and they are even on their account giving only character control.

It's not a violation to allow ps share to control your character

Rune_Relic

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

The PS4 things let's you play a ps4 account. It encourages it.

But ESO has a rule specific to the eso account. Only one person can play per eso account. The ps4 thing is completely irrelevant.

So yeh, it's a violation.

Do people care? Not really.

As proven over and over again....any developers terms do not and cannot superceed the consoles. Literally it's the other way around. ZOS has to comply with all the console features which is why it's not a violation because no one is sharing their account. Hey are using PS share which is the account holder allowing another person to remote access on the PSN and play while the account holder is in control.

Please don't confuse ppl it's not that they are doing anything wrong. It's just a good question

Simply stated it's not an account share.
It's a controller share...the account is still locked to the account holder and they are even on their account giving only character control.

It's not a violation to allow ps share to control your character

You cant both control your character at the same time.
Either you are moving it or the other person is.

Koolio

As you can see this definitely warrants and answer. I have some friends I would love to help. But unless I get an official answer I'm not wanting to risk it.

Riga_Mortis

Sony encourages shareplay, ZOS says they will ban you for it, so whos right?

NewBlacksmurf

Rune_Relic wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

The PS4 things let's you play a ps4 account. It encourages it.

But ESO has a rule specific to the eso account. Only one person can play per eso account. The ps4 thing is completely irrelevant.

So yeh, it's a violation.

Do people care? Not really.

As proven over and over again....any developers terms do not and cannot superceed the consoles. Literally it's the other way around. ZOS has to comply with all the console features which is why it's not a violation because no one is sharing their account. Hey are using PS share which is the account holder allowing another person to remote access on the PSN and play while the account holder is in control.

Please don't confuse ppl it's not that they are doing anything wrong. It's just a good question

Simply stated it's not an account share.
It's a controller share...the account is still locked to the account holder and they are even on their account giving only character control.

It's not a violation to allow ps share to control your character

You cant both control your character at the same time.
Either you are moving it or the other person is.

@Rune_Relic

I can be in control of my account (understand on console the account you all refer to on PC isn't ZOS' account on PlayStation) while another person is in control of my character. If you don't understand it's where two consoles are online and two humans one on each console under their own respective PSN accounts where the PS4 allows on PSN a share feature that will allow the other person to control and see your screen on their screen using their console and controller.

The person sharing can stop or server the share at any point.
The most important thing to comprehend is that the account that ZOS is referring to is never shared.

Spidersick

Streamers or non-streamers, they all should be punish equally for a violation. Offenses should not be encouraged or promoted, specially because it can mislead players who watch the videos.

SASKIY

Lol just do it because why not, like if you can't do it yourself sure find someone that can and there ya go. Just stay low about it

Rune_Relic

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Rune_Relic wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

The PS4 things let's you play a ps4 account. It encourages it.

But ESO has a rule specific to the eso account. Only one person can play per eso account. The ps4 thing is completely irrelevant.

So yeh, it's a violation.

Do people care? Not really.

As proven over and over again....any developers terms do not and cannot superceed the consoles. Literally it's the other way around. ZOS has to comply with all the console features which is why it's not a violation because no one is sharing their account. Hey are using PS share which is the account holder allowing another person to remote access on the PSN and play while the account holder is in control.

Please don't confuse ppl it's not that they are doing anything wrong. It's just a good question

Simply stated it's not an account share.
It's a controller share...the account is still locked to the account holder and they are even on their account giving only character control.

It's not a violation to allow ps share to control your character

You cant both control your character at the same time.
Either you are moving it or the other person is.

@Rune_Relic

I can be in control of my account (understand on console the account you all refer to on PC isn't ZOS' account on PlayStation) while another person is in control of my character. If you don't understand it's where two consoles are online and two humans one on each console under their own respective PSN accounts where the PS4 allows on PSN a share feature that will allow the other person to control and see your screen on their screen using their console and controller.

The person sharing can stop or server the share at any point.
The most important thing to comprehend is that the account that ZOS is referring to is never shared.

Ok. So I will just setup 50 accounts and have them all controlled by 1 bot via sharing.
I think you are missing the point.
Its not just about account details.
Its about exploitation and abuse of the game system.
Its akin to buying premade levelled accounts by someone else for gold.

Jaronking

Well I know a dude who did VMSA for a buddy and got a sharp inferno staff on his first run.

WillhelmBlack

Use your brain?

Junipus

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

The PS4 things let's you play a ps4 account. It encourages it.

But ESO has a rule specific to the eso account. Only one person can play per eso account. The ps4 thing is completely irrelevant.

So yeh, it's a violation.

Do people care? Not really.

As proven over and over again....any developers terms do not and cannot superceed the consoles. Literally it's the other way around. ZOS has to comply with all the console features which is why it's not a violation because no one is sharing their account. Hey are using PS share which is the account holder allowing another person to remote access on the PSN and play while the account holder is in control.

Please don't confuse ppl it's not that they are doing anything wrong. It's just a good question

Simply stated it's not an account share.
It's a controller share...the account is still locked to the account holder and they are even on their account giving only character control.

It's not a violation to allow ps share to control your character

It is a violation.

You can have someone access your PS4 and play on it playing things like single player games and shooters where there's no secondary account that provides access to the content, but if you need to sign in to someone else's account after logging into their PS4 account then it's a separate set of ToS. No-one supercedes anyone else, this isn't the court system.

You sign a ToS agreement with Sony which state they're happy to allow you to provide access to others on your PSN account. You sign a ToS agreement with ZOS which state that account sharing is a bannable offence.

Neither one overwrites the other and both are equally valid.

You can *** and moan if you do give access and ZOS ban you, but it's your own willful ignorance that's the culprit.

boldscot

Junipus wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

The PS4 things let's you play a ps4 account. It encourages it.

But ESO has a rule specific to the eso account. Only one person can play per eso account. The ps4 thing is completely irrelevant.

So yeh, it's a violation.

Do people care? Not really.

As proven over and over again....any developers terms do not and cannot superceed the consoles. Literally it's the other way around. ZOS has to comply with all the console features which is why it's not a violation because no one is sharing their account. Hey are using PS share which is the account holder allowing another person to remote access on the PSN and play while the account holder is in control.

Please don't confuse ppl it's not that they are doing anything wrong. It's just a good question

Simply stated it's not an account share.
It's a controller share...the account is still locked to the account holder and they are even on their account giving only character control.

It's not a violation to allow ps share to control your character

It is a violation.

You can have someone access your PS4 and play on it playing things like single player games and shooters where there's no secondary account that provides access to the content, but if you need to sign in to someone else's account after logging into their PS4 account then it's a separate set of ToS. No-one supercedes anyone else, this isn't the court system.

You sign a ToS agreement with Sony which state they're happy to allow you to provide access to others on your PSN account. You sign a ToS agreement with ZOS which state that account sharing is a bannable offence.

Neither one overwrites the other and both are equally valid.

You can *** and moan if you do give access and ZOS ban you, but it's your own willful ignorance that's the culprit.

It is not a violation

You do not need to sign in on your own profile, you join the shareplay and the host gives you the controller. You are playing his game on his account. The game allows shareplay which is a feature that the developers choose to support, they are not forced to allow it. Activision for instance didn't support it with Ghosts and are not supporting at with Infinite Warfare as far as I'm aware.

I would say that it is frowned upon, but it's been going on a lot. There a many flawless and stormproofs who can't complete the arena unfortunately. Achievements should have been disabled if in a shareplay session.