Advice Please Should I be Wearing 7 Light or 5 Light and 1 Heavy 1 Medium on Magicka Nightblade?

Deathgiggle

What are the pro's and cons of 7 Light vs. the 5L, 1H, 1M?
I just maxed out the Undaunted on my Mageblade and would really like to know the best set up here? I'm wearing 5 Pieces of Twice Born Star, 3 Aether Jewelry, and I have the Grothdarr Monster Set. Have multiple monster sets in light, medium and heavy so I can go with any setup as far as that is concerned. Everything is in Divines.

If I'm better off wearing 5L, 1H, 1M then which spots do people generally wear the medium and heavy piece? I was told different things by different people. Someone told me heavy head and medium shoulders but I've seen posts saying heavy chest and medium feet? I'd like to know the best setup for me to optimize my stats please!

Kutsuu

You simply put the Heavy and Medium in the highest armor places. Heavy Chest is obvious, then medium for Legs, Boots, Shoulders, or Helm would be fine (just not belt or gloves).

You are trading 6% magicka cost reduction and 8% magicka regen bonus for 4% more max mag/stam/health and ~3k more armor. Your choice!

Reorx_Holybeard

Like Kutsuu said you want the Heavy in Chest and Medium in Legs as a Heavy Chest gives much more resistance than a heavy sash. Usually magicka DPS goes 5/1/1 to maximize their DPS potential. Going 7 Light increases your sustain but does nothing for your DPS whereas a 6% increase to all stats gives you a little bit more DPS as well as more health to survive longer and a little more stamina for combat.

Kutsuu

Reorx_Holybeard wrote: »

Like Kutsuu said you want the Heavy in Chest and Medium in Legs as a Heavy Chest gives much more resistance than a heavy sash. Usually magicka DPS goes 5/1/1 to maximize their DPS potential. Going 7 Light increases your sustain but does nothing for your DPS whereas a 6% increase to all stats gives you a little bit more DPS as well as more health to survive longer and a little more stamina for combat.

You still get 2% from undaunted passive even in full light, so the trade is what I mentioned - the sustain vs 4% max stats. Not trying to nit pick just like being precise haha.

Especially with sets like Necropotence around, most do go 5/1/1 to maximize their magicka pool.

Flameheart

As a magicka NB I would choose 5/1/1 every day. I prefer the raw stat increase. Especially as a magicka NB with Siphoning Attacks, synergizing what is possible and in a group where the healer knows what he is doing (Elemental Drain, Siphon Soul, bubbles, maybe even the worm set buff), you should not have any ressource issues while using a pots.

SickDuck

Don't forget that you can get some passive bonuses from medium and heavy even for those 1-1 pieces.

So it's more about changing those light armor passive bonuses to somewhat less useful ones AND gaining extra 4% resources. The heavy armor passives are not that bad btw.

exeeter702

Am I too asume this is strictly pve related?

Because there is ano argument to be made regarding dampen's absorb strength with 7 light vs 5/1/1 while running necropotence.

darthsithis

do 511 for undaunted bonus, heavy on the chest and medium on something else big

take the first three heavy passives

take the second and last stam passive

enjoy! also you arent as squishy with that heavy chest usually unless you are the type that spams dampen magicka and healing ward in the first place in which case it doesnt matter lol. you can instead spam dps skills and ward less often tho if u run a heavy and medium!

SickDuck

exeeter702 wrote: »

Am I too asume this is strictly pve related?

Because there is ano argument to be made regarding dampen's absorb strength with 7 light vs 5/1/1 while running necropotence.

Only argument is whether you even need the shield at all. Sacrificing 5% health and some damage mitigation for a sake of slightly bigger shield that is not even necessary for most of pve content does not seem a good trade to me.

Autolycus

I think pretty much all of the bases have been covered in the responses here already.

I would only supplement that insight by mentioning also that giving up 2 pieces of light armor for the extra 4% max stats is a noticeable increase in damage potential, and as a magblade sustain is far less of an issue relative to other magicka classes. Sorcs, for example, rely a lot more on having things like Ele Drain and Siphon on their targets to sustain, and magblades have the luxury of Siphoning Attacks to keep them going. Sorcs of course have Dark Exchange, but casting it takes more time out of the dps rotation than does Siphoning Attacks.

As an example, let's say you have 40k magicka in full light armor. While the 6% reduced magicka cost is pretty substantial, that can be made up in CP, as can recovery (and recovery is not a stat in which we really care to invest as a magblade). However, 4% more magicka on 40k is about 1,600, which is roughly the equivalent (in terms of dps) to adding 160 spell damage.

The decrease in sustain potential is noticeable, but it's not a game-changer. The extra dps can make a difference though, especially when you factor in a variety of buffs.

bowmanz607

depends on what set up your going for. if you go 5/1/1 use the med. and heavy on large piecs. UNless your build requires your 5 pc to be light and then you would use your monster pieces as your odd pieces. This option is good for maximizing damag and surivivability through resources.

you can also do 5 light and 2 heavy. this can help decrease the damage you take as well as healing increased. allows you to us a heavy 5pc set with jewlery without having sustain issues in all heavy. you will still get a slight undaunted bonus.

7 light is best used when going with shields as defense.

exeeter702

SickDuck wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

Am I too asume this is strictly pve related?

Because there is ano argument to be made regarding dampen's absorb strength with 7 light vs 5/1/1 while running necropotence.

Only argument is whether you even need the shield at all. Sacrificing 5% health and some damage mitigation for a sake of slightly bigger shield that is not even necessary for most of pve content does not seem a good trade to me.

I was referring to pvp