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Infernal Guardian
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Is this set supposed to hit you when you're in sneak? I'm finding it horrendous on my nb since every time i go invisible i just get hit by mortars 
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incite✭✭✭✭Hahaha the fact that it can do that, might just be the single good thing about this "gosu" magicka set
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chuckselegy✭✭I personally don't see how it's "bug," or improper set mechanic.
Infernal guardian procs the mortars only when a person in being attack and is casting a damage shield as a reaction to that attack. How is it different from wings or the reflect from s&b?
Sneak would be too over-powered if it too was the ultimate dodge chance also.
Besides when you are in sneak or cloaked and you cast a damage ability you are immediately brought out of stealth. And if the attacked cast the shield quick enough then infernal guardian isn actually pulling you from sneak; rather, it is procing on you before you can return to sneak.
I'm all for being in stealth and yanking players dream and ambitions away from them as they ride between keeps but let's be honest and agree that sneak or stealth is too op in most combat scenarios.
Best suggestion mate, adapt to the situation0 -
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✭chuckselegy wrote: »I personally don't see how it's "bug," or improper set mechanic.
Infernal guardian procs the mortars only when a person in being attack and is casting a damage shield as a reaction to that attack. How is it different from wings or the reflect from s&b?
Sneak would be too over-powered if it too was the ultimate dodge chance also.
Besides when you are in sneak or cloaked and you cast a damage ability you are immediately brought out of stealth. And if the attacked cast the shield quick enough then infernal guardian isn actually pulling you from sneak; rather, it is procing on you before you can return to sneak.
I'm all for being in stealth and yanking players dream and ambitions away from them as they ride between keeps but let's be honest and agree that sneak or stealth is too op in most combat scenarios.
Best suggestion mate, adapt to the situation
Yes, because mag sorcs neeeeeever put up shield out of combat, ever. They always stroll around the battlefield, with shields down. That is just how they roll.
And also, you forget that it shoots at the farthest away enemy. Which is often not the person attacking the shieldstacker.
Based on what you are writing, it seems you do not know how the set actually works / procs.PC - EU
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Jaiden✭✭✭This set will target people who are in stealth and even not attacking the wearer.Jaiden V16 nightblade
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✭✭✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »
Apparently the player base (zergs) now spam this while on the move to find NBs etc... I don't know how I feel about this yet0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Sandman929 wrote: »
Apparently the player base (zergs) now spam this while on the move to find NBs etc... I don't know how I feel about this yet
It should at least require that they be in combat...with anyone.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Sandman929 wrote: »
Apparently the player base (zergs) now spam this while on the move to find NBs etc... I don't know how I feel about this yet
It should at least require that they be in combat...with anyone.
I agree, why I have mixed feelings is in duels. Go invis, and stealth and... well where the f did they go? Infernal will find em!
But in open world imo it shouldn't work like that...
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✭✭✭✭✭chuckselegy wrote: »I personally don't see how it's "bug," or improper set mechanic.
Infernal guardian procs the mortars only when a person in being attack and is casting a damage shield as a reaction to that attack. How is it different from wings or the reflect from s&b?
Sneak would be too over-powered if it too was the ultimate dodge chance also.
Besides when you are in sneak or cloaked and you cast a damage ability you are immediately brought out of stealth. And if the attacked cast the shield quick enough then infernal guardian isn actually pulling you from sneak; rather, it is procing on you before you can return to sneak.
I'm all for being in stealth and yanking players dream and ambitions away from them as they ride between keeps but let's be honest and agree that sneak or stealth is too op in most combat scenarios.
Best suggestion mate, adapt to the situation
Yes, because mag sorcs neeeeeever put up shield out of combat, ever. They always stroll around the battlefield, with shields down. That is just how they roll.
And also, you forget that it shoots at the farthest away enemy. Which is often not the person attacking the shieldstacker.
Based on what you are writing, it seems you do not know how the set actually works / procs.
The set does not work on people that are not tagged in combat with the mag sorc (or one of their grpmates - this works both ways, ie: if you attacked one person out of a 24 ppl grp everyones infernal guardian out of that grp will now target you).Edited by Derra on October 28, 2016 6:55PM<Noricum>
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✭Waffennacht wrote: »Sandman929 wrote: »
Apparently the player base (zergs) now spam this while on the move to find NBs etc... I don't know how I feel about this yet
If you aren't in combat the set doesn't proc at least that's what I've been noticing. I've only been using it for about a week now, and I like it more everyday. This set is very underrated0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭This is sounding like an "In Combat" problem more than a set problem. I don't think a player should be considered In Combat until they attack or are attacked, unless they are grouped.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Sandman929 wrote: »
Apparently the player base (zergs) now spam this while on the move to find NBs etc... I don't know how I feel about this yet
If you aren't in combat the set doesn't proc at least that's what I've been noticing. I've only been using it for about a week now, and I like it more everyday. This set is very underrated
It's extremely underrated, i absolutely love it, i've been running it day 1T.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Ive been hit by this by a caster standing outside inner keep walls while im inside, and on top of resource towers while caster is standing on the flag, it simply ignores all obstacles and "hidden" status etc. It just adds to the broken procc-meta
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✭✭✭✭Infernal Guardian is broken..it shoots through walls and ceilings and everything else...I was going to use this on my Sorc after 15 minutes i banked the set....im not using any proc sets at all...just high max magicka and stats...i'd rather lose playing the game myself then to win because the game(armor proc sets) played the game for me....just my 2 cents...Rinaldo Gandolphi-Breton Sorcerer Daggerfall Covenant
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✭✭✭✭One of the most blatant examples of ZOS' disregard for PvP is the way this set 'works'.0 -
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"There are walls in Cyrodiil?" - ZOS 2016Lava_Croft wrote: »One of the most blatant examples of ZOS' disregard for PvP is the way this set 'works'.1 -
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Destro Ulti is much of the same LoS ignoring nonsense. At this point it's hard to see anything except intended negligence.HoloYoitsu wrote: »
"There are walls in Cyrodiil?" - ZOS 2016Lava_Croft wrote: »One of the most blatant examples of ZOS' disregard for PvP is the way this set 'works'.0 -
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You don't understand, this is the first step to removing all LOS from Cyrodiil in order to fix the lag. Soon we will all just be fighting in one big empty field.Lava_Croft wrote: »
Destro Ulti is much of the same LoS ignoring nonsense. At this point it's hard to see anything except intended negligence.HoloYoitsu wrote: »
"There are walls in Cyrodiil?" - ZOS 2016Lava_Croft wrote: »One of the most blatant examples of ZOS' disregard for PvP is the way this set 'works'.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »
You don't understand, this is the first step to removing all LOS from Cyrodiil in order to fix the lag. Soon we will all just be fighting in one big empty field.Lava_Croft wrote: »
Destro Ulti is much of the same LoS ignoring nonsense. At this point it's hard to see anything except intended negligence.HoloYoitsu wrote: »
"There are walls in Cyrodiil?" - ZOS 2016Lava_Croft wrote: »One of the most blatant examples of ZOS' disregard for PvP is the way this set 'works'.
Fing finally, nothing better than chasing the same (insert any word here)person around rock because they can't finish off their half hearted gank... /end sarcasm1 -
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Will this mean my immersion is going to be fixed by reintroducing deer and torchbugs?HoloYoitsu wrote: »
You don't understand, this is the first step to removing all LOS from Cyrodiil in order to fix the lag. Soon we will all just be fighting in one big empty field.Lava_Croft wrote: »
Destro Ulti is much of the same LoS ignoring nonsense. At this point it's hard to see anything except intended negligence.HoloYoitsu wrote: »
"There are walls in Cyrodiil?" - ZOS 2016Lava_Croft wrote: »One of the most blatant examples of ZOS' disregard for PvP is the way this set 'works'.0
