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Stam Sorc dungeon/ trial dps.

DarkDeller
Hey guys. Just looking for an up to date build for a stam sorc dps. Im a khajitt and really only have enough wax to gold one set of armour, im running dagger/ bow. This will ne only dungeons and trials
  • Lukums1
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    Hey mate,

    As far as "Golding goes" don't.

    You don't need to gold Armour just do your weapons you'll thank me later on when you decide to switch gear at the drop of a hat you won't be going oh... man wish I had the gold... to buy the new set or the next set whatever.

    Anyway, getting to your question.

    I have my flawless stam and this worked for me (originally and it's easy to accomplish).

    5 piece vo armour
    2 piece monster helm, at the time it was cradle of shadow set vila don't know the spelling now it's selene I like weaving so it suits my play style.
    5 piece viper

    Bar 1:

    Rapid strikes, blood craze, crit surge, bound arg, evil hunter, Ulti is the other morph of Rend - I enjoy the extra GLOW supersayen damage :P lol but that's me

    Bar 2: Poison injection, endless hail, thundering presence, bound arg, vigor ULTI power overload (simply for 3rd bar)

    Bar 3: crit surge, rearming trap, caltrops, bound arg, vigor ULTI power overload.

    Seeing as your not redguard you may find better use not to slot evil hunter and maybe place rearming there instead of the ease of damage and weaving into it (practice for when you get maelstrom weapons)

    My 2 cents worked like a beast for me until I got my 2 daggers from maelstrom sharpen.

    The alternatives to viper is automatron (in my opinion).

    Luke
    PS4 Yellow Scum Dominion
    1600+ vMA runs and counting
    Magicka Sorc - Flawless - 544k Score
    Stam Sorc - Flawless - 559k Score
    Stam DK - FLAWLESS 512k Score
    Stam NB - 492k Score - Work in progress
    Magicka Temp - 482k Score

    The Ozmeric Dominion (Oceanic) Australian Based Guild

    vMA "guru" - VHRC - vSO - vSOHM - vDSA - vAA - vMOL
    The Maelstrom BIBLE for beginners/Flawless Achieve Below
    https://www.twitch.tv/lukumms/v/111730700
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/181142505

    You have vMA questions? Want a guide? Helping hand? PM me!

    Returns after 6 months back to back flawless
    https://go.twitch.tv/videos/180384648


  • Lexifer452
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    Kind of agree with lukums about not Golding armor. At least not right away. The only sets of armor I make legendary are the ones that I know I'm going to be using for awhile. For me I have a 5-pc each of hunting's, julianos and light armor TBS legendary. It is nice having the extra 7% divines from Golding seven armor pieces but its not really gamechanging. Not sure exact figures but I think it shakes out to a few extra percent crit (thief) and maybe 40-60 spell or weapon dmg (apprentice/warrior). Don't use shadow with nothing but TBS so not sure about that one.

    From what I've gathered though best in slot for stam dps ATM is vicious ophidian base with some combination of a monster set, agility 3-piece and another five piece set depending on playstyle. The main ones that come to mind are night mother's, spriggons, leviathan, TBS, toothrow (if you can get away with it when you don't want to/don't have room to slot camo hunter) or hunding's (if your stubborn like me and don't want to stop using it because you've already golded it out in weapons and large armor pieces even though its not BiS-competitive anymore, apparently).

    All that said though, there are some good builds in tamriel foundry's sorcerer theorycrafting section that demonstrate the usual suspects well and would be worth your time to check out.
  • Lukums1
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    Lexifer452 wrote: »
    Kind of agree with lukums about not Golding armor. At least not right away. The only sets of armor I make legendary are the ones that I know I'm going to be using for awhile. For me I have a 5-pc each of hunting's, julianos and light armor TBS legendary. It is nice having the extra 7% divines from Golding seven armor pieces but its not really gamechanging. Not sure exact figures but I think it shakes out to a few extra percent crit (thief) and maybe 40-60 spell or weapon dmg (apprentice/warrior). Don't use shadow with nothing but TBS so not sure about that one.

    From what I've gathered though best in slot for stam dps ATM is vicious ophidian base with some combination of a monster set, agility 3-piece and another five piece set depending on playstyle. The main ones that come to mind are night mother's, spriggons, leviathan, TBS, toothrow (if you can get away with it when you don't want to/don't have room to slot camo hunter) or hunding's (if your stubborn like me and don't want to stop using it because you've already golded it out in weapons and large armor pieces even though its not BiS-competitive anymore, apparently).

    All that said though, there are some good builds in tamriel foundry's sorcerer theorycrafting section that demonstrate the usual suspects well and would be worth your time to check out.

    I agree with you also Lexifer.

    If you have the money... you go right ahead sir. But if you don't you'll kick yourself in the butt for that critical mistake.

    With VO armour, agility, monster helm, and daggers I was able to flawless the maelstrom arena (no maelstrom weapons).
    I can feel an incredible difference using vo over tbs, hundings. I don't know if thats because of the 30% expedition ... or the recovery potential either way VO blows my mind mind you very easily obtainable.

    Even with 5 piece hundings/5 piece viper and 2 daggers again will work amazing.

    I tried Krags ... not a fan... tried selene (have to weave like a %$^$ er) but strong.

    I kinda... for LOLs wanted to go 5 piece VO 5% extra damage, 2 piece slimecraw 8% extra damage, 3 piece agility and my 2 maelstrom daggers... but that 129 health recover on that monster set makes me wanna cry...
    PS4 Yellow Scum Dominion
    1600+ vMA runs and counting
    Magicka Sorc - Flawless - 544k Score
    Stam Sorc - Flawless - 559k Score
    Stam DK - FLAWLESS 512k Score
    Stam NB - 492k Score - Work in progress
    Magicka Temp - 482k Score

    The Ozmeric Dominion (Oceanic) Australian Based Guild

    vMA "guru" - VHRC - vSO - vSOHM - vDSA - vAA - vMOL
    The Maelstrom BIBLE for beginners/Flawless Achieve Below
    https://www.twitch.tv/lukumms/v/111730700
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/181142505

    You have vMA questions? Want a guide? Helping hand? PM me!

    Returns after 6 months back to back flawless
    https://go.twitch.tv/videos/180384648


  • Lashiing
    Lashiing
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    5x vo, 5x nm/levi/viper, 2x vel/kra/selene
    or
    5x nm/levi/viper, 3x vo, 2x vel/kra/selene, 2x MA (dagger, axe/bow)
    PC/NA ― Dancing Jesters

    AD – Khajiit Nightblade – Dps – lucif'r
    AD – Altmer Sorcerer – Dps – Trove Scamp
    AD – Dunmer Dragonknight – Dps – Lashiing
    AD – Altmer Templar – Dps – Six-teen
    DC – Redguard Sorcerer – Dps – Cunnїng Scamp

    vMA • vDSA • vAA HM • vHRC HM • vSO HM • vMoL
  • leth888
    leth888
    Soul Shriven
    What about the Stormfist's monster set? I heard it may be better than vel... Is it true?
  • Lukums1
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    It is no way shape or form better than veli.

    The poison you get off veli scales from your champ points also.

    People only say this, because most are "fails" who can't bare to continue running Cradle of Shadows on Vet LOL
    PS4 Yellow Scum Dominion
    1600+ vMA runs and counting
    Magicka Sorc - Flawless - 544k Score
    Stam Sorc - Flawless - 559k Score
    Stam DK - FLAWLESS 512k Score
    Stam NB - 492k Score - Work in progress
    Magicka Temp - 482k Score

    The Ozmeric Dominion (Oceanic) Australian Based Guild

    vMA "guru" - VHRC - vSO - vSOHM - vDSA - vAA - vMOL
    The Maelstrom BIBLE for beginners/Flawless Achieve Below
    https://www.twitch.tv/lukumms/v/111730700
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/181142505

    You have vMA questions? Want a guide? Helping hand? PM me!

    Returns after 6 months back to back flawless
    https://go.twitch.tv/videos/180384648


  • leth888
    leth888
    Soul Shriven
    Lukums1 wrote: »
    It is no way shape or form better than veli.

    The poison you get off veli scales from your champ points also.

    People only say this, because most are "fails" who can't bare to continue running Cradle of Shadows on Vet LOL

    LOL
  • Lukums1
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    leth888 wrote: »
    Lukums1 wrote: »
    It is no way shape or form better than veli.

    The poison you get off veli scales from your champ points also.

    People only say this, because most are "fails" who can't bare to continue running Cradle of Shadows on Vet LOL

    LOL

    I liked the last line too pretty funny.
    PS4 Yellow Scum Dominion
    1600+ vMA runs and counting
    Magicka Sorc - Flawless - 544k Score
    Stam Sorc - Flawless - 559k Score
    Stam DK - FLAWLESS 512k Score
    Stam NB - 492k Score - Work in progress
    Magicka Temp - 482k Score

    The Ozmeric Dominion (Oceanic) Australian Based Guild

    vMA "guru" - VHRC - vSO - vSOHM - vDSA - vAA - vMOL
    The Maelstrom BIBLE for beginners/Flawless Achieve Below
    https://www.twitch.tv/lukumms/v/111730700
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/181142505

    You have vMA questions? Want a guide? Helping hand? PM me!

    Returns after 6 months back to back flawless
    https://go.twitch.tv/videos/180384648


  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    I have seen people post 50k plus on Rakkhat with stormfist. It adds solid DPS on a Stam
    Sorc. Just saying.

    Truthfully, I think most people are better off going 5VO and 5NM/TBS with VMA weapons in most group content. It's a bit less DPS, but the movement and sustain are really nice. In VMA itself, drop the VMA weapons for crafted ones and add the monster set. Stuff dies to fast in there to benefit from the flurry buff.

    I would only gold BIS pieces like divines medium monster pieces or divines VO pieces. Once you have those sorted out, you can build around it.

    If you don't have a set of Night Mothers it's a really good place to start. A lot of people overlook this in group play, but if nobody else is running it, you should be. It's also worth crafting a pair of gold sharp NM daggers for running VMA. If you make anything gold, it should be the weapons.
  • Teuton67
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    In the case of using 5 NMG with two sharpened NMG daggers, what enchants would you use for each hand? This would be in combination with 5 VO and a monster set.
    Edited by Teuton67 on December 2, 2016 7:03PM
  • Shader_Shibes
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    Lukums1 wrote: »
    It is no way shape or form better than veli.

    The poison you get off veli scales from your champ points also.

    People only say this, because most are "fails" who can't bare to continue running Cradle of Shadows on Vet LOL

    Someone linked a 4-5 min parse on mage in vet AA, where if I remember right, stormfist done 6k+ dps, it's by no means a shabby set.
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