Smart loot system

Alucardo

After trying to drop a red mountain weapon since the first day this set went CP160 I have finally managed.



Yeah. I can deal with your shotty RNG. I can deal with bad traits. I can even deal with not getting the exact type of weapon I want (axe, dagger, sword, mace, rubber chicken). But when you give me a healing staff on, what is clearly a stamina weapon, I die a little more inside.
You told us that with One Tamriel we'd be seeing a "smart loot" system. If this is smart then I'd hate to see the stupid version.

STEVIL

Alucardo wrote: »

After trying to drop a red mountain weapon since the first day this set went CP160 I have finally managed.



Yeah. I can deal with your shotty RNG. I can deal with bad traits. I can even deal with not getting the exact type of weapon I want (axe, dagger, sword, mace, rubber chicken). But when you give me a healing staff on, what is clearly a stamina weapon, I die a little more inside.
You told us that with One Tamriel we'd be seeing a "smart loot" system. If this is smart then I'd hate to see the stupid version.

i will say i have not seen the loot become any smarter in any of the recent changes. Still seeing many of the old "why in the world would this be made."

Now i am NOT one for saying dont have any of these kind of extremes. But certainly some quite simple algorithm can identify "this weapons heavy attack restores a attribute that none of its bonuses align with" and make those have a substantially reduced chance of occuring - please?

Alucardo

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Alucardo wrote: »

After trying to drop a red mountain weapon since the first day this set went CP160 I have finally managed.



Yeah. I can deal with your shotty RNG. I can deal with bad traits. I can even deal with not getting the exact type of weapon I want (axe, dagger, sword, mace, rubber chicken). But when you give me a healing staff on, what is clearly a stamina weapon, I die a little more inside.
You told us that with One Tamriel we'd be seeing a "smart loot" system. If this is smart then I'd hate to see the stupid version.

i will say i have not seen the loot become any smarter in any of the recent changes. Still seeing many of the old "why in the world would this be made."

Now i am NOT one for saying dont have any of these kind of extremes. But certainly some quite simple algorithm can identify "this weapons heavy attack restores a attribute that none of its bonuses align with" and make those have a substantially reduced chance of occuring - please?

Nope, it really hasn't. Here's some more beauties since one tamriel landed

Agobi

Whoever coded this random lootsystem is a complete moron....simple as that

Waseem

smartest loot of the day
its sharpened!



few minutes ago from recent veteran Hel Ra run.

Alucardo

Waseem wrote: »

smartest loot of the day
its sharpened!



few minutes ago from recent veteran Hel Ra run.

lol god damn. And sharpened xD

AzraelKrieg

As I said in another topic on the same thing, the Smart Loot system only applies to sets that state they give a buff to certain weapon skill lines. You will still get Resto or Destro staves for stam sets but you won't see a Resto staff or a 2h in a set that gives buffs to Destruction skills or dual wield skills.

Tryxus

RNG is a troll + ZOS made it smarter = ???

Junipus

Sigh, yet again to explain to people who seemingly forget.

The "Smart" part of the smart loot system is supposed to mean that you won't get weapons where the 5th piece bonus does not match the weapon in question e.g. you won't get sword singer bows or Hawk eye shields or healer habit destro staves.

You can still get destro staves for general weapon damage sets and bows for general magicka damage sets as it's considered okay by Elder Trolls Online, but whether they've actually implemented any of the above is highly uncertain.

LadyNalcarya

Ive got an even better item!

AzraelKrieg

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Ive got an even better item!

Wow. Ok that is bad. I knew the original item had the ornate trait but it wasn't part of a set then.

Bouldercleave

I understand the need to not give someone the perfect item EVERY time, but Damn some of these just make no sense at all.

Mojmir

Smart loot is a reflection on it's implementor, possible that's the best they can do.lol

Alucardo

Junipus wrote: »

Sigh, yet again to explain to people who seemingly forget.

The "Smart" part of the smart loot system is supposed to mean that you won't get weapons where the 5th piece bonus does not match the weapon in question e.g. you won't get sword singer bows or Hawk eye shields or healer habit destro staves.

You can still get destro staves for general weapon damage sets and bows for general magicka damage sets as it's considered okay by Elder Trolls Online, but whether they've actually implemented any of the above is highly uncertain.

How does the spriggan's 5th piece bonus of PHYSICAL PENETRATION match my staff? I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure staves don't do physical damage, unless there's a knock on the head ability I don't know about

Ch4mpTW

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Junipus wrote: »

Sigh, yet again to explain to people who seemingly forget.

The "Smart" part of the smart loot system is supposed to mean that you won't get weapons where the 5th piece bonus does not match the weapon in question e.g. you won't get sword singer bows or Hawk eye shields or healer habit destro staves.

You can still get destro staves for general weapon damage sets and bows for general magicka damage sets as it's considered okay by Elder Trolls Online, but whether they've actually implemented any of the above is highly uncertain.

How does the spriggan's 5th piece bonus of PHYSICAL PENETRATION match my staff? I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure staves don't do physical damage, unless there's a knock on the head ability I don't know about

The penetration of that bash damage, bruh. Lmao. Gotta interrupt things sometimes.

Alucardo

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Alucardo wrote: »

Junipus wrote: »

Sigh, yet again to explain to people who seemingly forget.

The "Smart" part of the smart loot system is supposed to mean that you won't get weapons where the 5th piece bonus does not match the weapon in question e.g. you won't get sword singer bows or Hawk eye shields or healer habit destro staves.

You can still get destro staves for general weapon damage sets and bows for general magicka damage sets as it's considered okay by Elder Trolls Online, but whether they've actually implemented any of the above is highly uncertain.

How does the spriggan's 5th piece bonus of PHYSICAL PENETRATION match my staff? I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure staves don't do physical damage, unless there's a knock on the head ability I don't know about

The penetration of that bash damage, bruh. Lmao. Gotta interrupt things sometimes.

Lol my bad xD

Dread_Viking

Get Zenimaxt

Mephilis78

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Waseem wrote: »

smartest loot of the day
its sharpened!



few minutes ago from recent veteran Hel Ra run.

lol god damn. And sharpened xD

That's why we need to learn more about defense against pointed sticks

Synfaer

Thats the trouble with 'smart' loot, it knows if you've been good or bad and will reward you accordingly.

Khilseith

I can deal with bad traits but not when 70% of what I pick up is prosperous and training.

Solus

I think the smart loot system was dungeons only, and it keeps the drops relevant to the previous set that was dropped. not your playstyle/what you want. I cant remember where i read that, it was in the patch notes somewhere.

And ive experienced this in dungeons already where i got a shoulder, helm, and guards all from the same set in a row from bosses in one run

AzraelKrieg

Solus wrote: »

I think the smart loot system was dungeons only, and it keeps the drops relevant to the previous set that was dropped. not your playstyle/what you want. I cant remember where i read that, it was in the patch notes somewhere.

And ive experienced this in dungeons already where i got a shoulder, helm, and guards all from the same set in a row from bosses in one run

That's not what the smart loot system is but damn that's some good luck

Solus

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Solus wrote: »

I think the smart loot system was dungeons only, and it keeps the drops relevant to the previous set that was dropped. not your playstyle/what you want. I cant remember where i read that, it was in the patch notes somewhere.

And ive experienced this in dungeons already where i got a shoulder, helm, and guards all from the same set in a row from bosses in one run

That's not what the smart loot system is but damn that's some good luck

I saw something along those lines in the patch notes somewhere though. I cant find it now lol.

AzraelKrieg

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AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Solus wrote: »

I think the smart loot system was dungeons only, and it keeps the drops relevant to the previous set that was dropped. not your playstyle/what you want. I cant remember where i read that, it was in the patch notes somewhere.

And ive experienced this in dungeons already where i got a shoulder, helm, and guards all from the same set in a row from bosses in one run

That's not what the smart loot system is but damn that's some good luck

I saw something along those lines in the patch notes somewhere though. I cant find it now lol.

If that were the case then I wouldn't have received Lich from one boss, Ebon from the next, and Leviathan from the third boss in Crypt of Hearts

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Did they even say there would be a smart loot system? All I saw was them say something's about melee trigger set affects not dropping on ranged weapon. Then everyone went crazy with some version of smart loot. I dunno maybe I missed it.

Don't get me wrong it really needs work, I just don't remember them ever saying they were doing it.

AzraelKrieg

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

Did they even say there would be a smart loot system? All I saw was them say something's about melee trigger set affects not dropping on ranged weapon. Then everyone went crazy with some version of smart loot. I dunno maybe I missed it.

Don't get me wrong it really needs work, I just don't remember them ever saying they were doing it.

That melee trigger sets not dropping ranged weapons is the smart loot system but everyone seems to think that it applies to all sets and then they proceed to lose their minds when they get a Spriggan staff

Solus

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

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Solus wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Solus wrote: »

I think the smart loot system was dungeons only, and it keeps the drops relevant to the previous set that was dropped. not your playstyle/what you want. I cant remember where i read that, it was in the patch notes somewhere.

And ive experienced this in dungeons already where i got a shoulder, helm, and guards all from the same set in a row from bosses in one run

That's not what the smart loot system is but damn that's some good luck

I saw something along those lines in the patch notes somewhere though. I cant find it now lol.

If that were the case then I wouldn't have received Lich from one boss, Ebon from the next, and Leviathan from the third boss in Crypt of Hearts

"Sets that grant a bonus to melee damage will now drop more intelligently (i.e. a set with melee damage will no longer drop with a bow or stave)."

That was what i was thinking, it wasnt what i initially thought it was.

AzraelKrieg

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AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Solus wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Solus wrote: »

I think the smart loot system was dungeons only, and it keeps the drops relevant to the previous set that was dropped. not your playstyle/what you want. I cant remember where i read that, it was in the patch notes somewhere.

And ive experienced this in dungeons already where i got a shoulder, helm, and guards all from the same set in a row from bosses in one run

That's not what the smart loot system is but damn that's some good luck

I saw something along those lines in the patch notes somewhere though. I cant find it now lol.

If that were the case then I wouldn't have received Lich from one boss, Ebon from the next, and Leviathan from the third boss in Crypt of Hearts

"Sets that grant a bonus to melee damage will now drop more intelligently (i.e. a set with melee damage will no longer drop with a bow or stave)."

That was what i was thinking, it wasnt what i initially thought it was.

That's it. And it is that part of the patch notes that people seem to have missed when it comes to this "smart loot" thing

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Junipus wrote: »

Sigh, yet again to explain to people who seemingly forget.

The "Smart" part of the smart loot system is supposed to mean that you won't get weapons where the 5th piece bonus does not match the weapon in question e.g. you won't get sword singer bows or Hawk eye shields or healer habit destro staves.

You can still get destro staves for general weapon damage sets and bows for general magicka damage sets as it's considered okay by Elder Trolls Online, but whether they've actually implemented any of the above is highly uncertain.

Bonuses like Armor penetration or weapon damage bonuses can't be use with the skills of Restoration or desto skills. If you get 350 extra weapon damage it doesn't translate with magic weapons.

aldriq

Sir, you misheard, surely they said they were bringing a smart lute to the crown store...

Enslaved

Its called smart loot because it requires stupid amount of time to get it in desirable form and trait.
And I bet those spriggan staffs are made off an entire forest of spriggans. As Saxhleel would say " I erect the spine of middle finger"...