ZOS why can we not respec skill points one by one, the same way as champion points?

altemriel

Dear ZOS,

why is there not an option to reset the skill points (or even attribute points) one by one (the same way as with champion points)?

It really sucks, when I want to change only some skills and I have to reset it all and then click it all one by one back.


Why is there no option to, lets say pay some default price and to reset only those skills that I need?


@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_MattFiror @Wrobel @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Fettkeewl

I'd love this. I share your pain. I want to level both of the morphs for weapon ultis, have to respecc all morphs just because of that. Waste of time and money.

Also the CP respecc is ridicilous, 3k cost for respeccing all or just 1 point.
It should only cost per point changed.

Mojmir

Hell yea

SquareSausage

Yep agreed, it forces people to continue playing in an ineffective play style as the price to respecc is prohibitive.

BalticBlues

I even wonder:

Why not having both morphs of all skills *always* available to select?
Having to decide for one skill essentially rules out half of all skills.

Example: As a healer for PUGs, in many situations I would like to change a skill morph based on the PUG I find. Playing with a vulnerable PUG of beginners I would prefer "Blessing of Restauration", for a strong PUG with vets I would prefer "Combat Prayer".

ZOS, please give us more options and make all the great skill morphs always available. Thanks!

Waseem

get a bunch more skill points and you wont have to respec daily

stevepdodson_ESO888

Waseem wrote: »

get a bunch more skill points and you wont have to respec daily

you will still need to respec if you find yourself in a situation where you want to use the other morph of something (as was pointed out in the previous post).
similarly, some morphs are more useful than others in PvP compared to PvE if you like to play both with your char

Alucardo

I'd love for it to AT LEAST keep the passives I already had selected, and allow me to adjust them if I wish after the respec. I don't mind doing the skills again because there aren't many, but half the time I wonder why my damage and sustain is so bad, then realise I've been playing without the medium armor passives since the respec.

altemriel

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

Waseem wrote: »

get a bunch more skill points and you wont have to respec daily

you will still need to respec if you find yourself in a situation where you want to use the other morph of something (as was pointed out in the previous post).
similarly, some morphs are more useful than others in PvP compared to PvE if you like to play both with your char

this!

NewBlacksmurf

I'd say at least have skill resets by line vs morphs or all.

Something needs to change but I can foresee doing one at a time also

DRXHarbinger

Plus it would save a lot of gold. I like changing between deep breath and draw essence between group and solo play.

LaiTash

Duh. Most mmos don't even have respec outside the premium store. Also, the game lacks gold sinks as it is now, and with 1T it's even more important.

PS4_ZeColmeia

I just want the confirm button like Champion Points. I'm tired of accidently throwing an accidental point in a passive and having to pay 10k to redo it. If we could queue it up, I'm fine with the gold sink. Otherwise, put it back on discount!

Wolfhammer

altemriel wrote: »

Dear ZOS,

why is there not an option to reset the skill points (or even attribute points) one by one (the same way as with champion points)?

It really sucks, when I want to change only some skills and I have to reset it all and then click it all one by one back.


Why is there no option to, lets say pay some default price and to reset only those skills that I need?


@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_MattFiror @Wrobel @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

OP this is one by biggest pet peeves about this game... For a game that prides itself on character diversity, they make it a total PITA to experiment with builds.. I really don't understand why its all or nothing with a steep cost... Ok the game needs gold sinks but seriously, there's plenty of scope for that in the next update with housing..

Let us respec a single ability or a single attribute point so we can properly try out new things without the current arse-ache of setting up totally from scratch..

100% need this in game ZoS !

I_killed_Vivec

Choices have consequences.

HairyFairy

This is something that needs to be implemented

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

I agree 100% with the OP.

hingarthuub17_ESO

/WHOLE-HEARTEDLY AGREE.

I can't stand respec'ing as it forces me to do everything all over again. It's so onerous and tedious - the last thing I want to do when I come home from work is having to deal with the prospect of MORE WORK. Make it open, sort of like an interactable skill tree (there are plenty of examples for this) and do away with the 1) respec'ing cost, and 2) having to respec EVERYTHING.

idk

@altemriel

Champion points cannot be respected one by one as far as cost is concerned. It's one price fits all when reworking CP.

Since the launch of ESO Zos has cut the price of repeating skill points in half. Additionally Zos gave hs the ability go respec morphs only which considerable reduced the price further to respec a few morphs.

It's fine the way it is, though I would not be surprised if free respec becomes an ESO+ perk some day.

Astanphaeus

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

@altemriel

Champion points cannot be respected one by one as far as cost is concerned. It's one price fits all when reworking CP.

Since the launch of ESO Zos has cut the price of repeating skill points in half. Additionally Zos gave hs the ability go respec morphs only which considerable reduced the price further to respec a few morphs.

It's fine the way it is, though I would not be surprised if free respec becomes an ESO+ perk some day.

I don't think altemriel is complaining about the price, as at no point did thy ever mention cost. The problem is that when you have 346 skill points like I do and you want to switch out 1 single skill for another single skill, you are forced to put all 346 skill points back which is a huge pain in the ass. With CP, you can go -1 from here and +1 over here. Sure, it costs the same as redoing all of them, but I don't have to re-click 361 times when I want to do it with just a few of the points

If cost is additionally being complained about, then I will agree that the current pricing is fine, but the fundamental way in which just a couple skill points needing to be modified results in a huge time dump of remembering where everything else was needs to be changed.

altemriel

LaiTash wrote: »

Duh. Most mmos don't even have respec outside the premium store. Also, the game lacks gold sinks as it is now, and with 1T it's even more important.

the number 1 gold sink will be Housing, all for gold, will totally such all gold from the economy , I will buy at least one house for each character

altemriel

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

@altemriel

Champion points cannot be respected one by one as far as cost is concerned. It's one price fits all when reworking CP.

Since the launch of ESO Zos has cut the price of repeating skill points in half. Additionally Zos gave hs the ability go respec morphs only which considerable reduced the price further to respec a few morphs.

It's fine the way it is, though I would not be surprised if free respec becomes an ESO+ perk some day.

well if the price would be some default price like 1K or 2K and would allow us to respec how many skill points or attribute points we need, but not reset them all, that would be ok for me

Astanphaeus wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

@altemriel

Champion points cannot be respected one by one as far as cost is concerned. It's one price fits all when reworking CP.

Since the launch of ESO Zos has cut the price of repeating skill points in half. Additionally Zos gave hs the ability go respec morphs only which considerable reduced the price further to respec a few morphs.

It's fine the way it is, though I would not be surprised if free respec becomes an ESO+ perk some day.

I don't think altemriel is complaining about the price, as at no point did thy ever mention cost. The problem is that when you have 346 skill points like I do and you want to switch out 1 single skill for another single skill, you are forced to put all 346 skill points back which is a huge pain in the ass. With CP, you can go -1 from here and +1 over here. Sure, it costs the same as redoing all of them, but I don't have to re-click 361 times when I want to do it with just a few of the points

If cost is additionally being complained about, then I will agree that the current pricing is fine, but the fundamental way in which just a couple skill points needing to be modified results in a huge time dump of remembering where everything else was needs to be changed.

yes this, I have a cp370 char, so she has plenty of skill points, do not know how many now, but it really really sucks, to click 20 minutes to half an hour to respec them all

it is ok for newbies with 10 to 20 skill points, but not for veterans with many skill points.



there should be a way to respec just the ones you need, two minutes

Riga_Mortis

This would be such an awesome QoL improvement, so Please make it happen ZoS.

itscompton

Totally agree, I have so many SP's it costs 15k+ to respec which makes me extremely hesitant to put points into base abilities I haven't tried yet since the only way to get back that point if I don't like the abilty is to spend the time and money on a total respec.

Danksta

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Plus it would save a lot of gold. I like changing between deep breath and draw essence between group and solo play.

That fact that it would save gold is the issue. Respecs are meant to be a gold sink.

Nyghthowler

Danksta wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Plus it would save a lot of gold. I like changing between deep breath and draw essence between group and solo play.

That fact that it would save gold is the issue. Respecs are meant to be a gold sink.

it has already stated the cost isn't the issue. it's having to reset EVERYTHING! We just want to be able to do each individually, regardless of the cost.

mr_wazzabi

altemriel wrote: »

Dear ZOS,

why is there not an option to reset the skill points (or even attribute points) one by one (the same way as with champion points)?

It really sucks, when I want to change only some skills and I have to reset it all and then click it all one by one back.


Why is there no option to, lets say pay some default price and to reset only those skills that I need?


@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_MattFiror @Wrobel @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Laziness. Many extra lines of code required.

JasonSilverSpring

Hopefully this is not considered a necro as this thread is not too old, but I am facing the same frustration. I am not concerned about the cost to respec, but it is a pain to have to remember all the passives when I just want to make a few changes. I know me and others requested this well over a year ago so I am not sure if it will ever happen, but I am in favor of keeping the cost as is but just allowing us to selectively remove points and then re-apply them elsewhere. I suspect one challenge would be controlling how long you have to re-spec. For example, can you only remove points for x minutes or only until you exit the skill screens. Resetting everything and refunding all points does alleviate that issue, but at great inconvenience.

In the interim, does anyone know of an addon that would help capture current spent passive points that I could then use as a reference. I have searched and not found anything so far. It is a pain to do a ton of screen captures to make sure I remember all the passives.

BlanketFort

I wouldn't mind if I still have to pay the same fee for a re-spec, even if all I wanted was to move a couple of skill points allowed; the same way it works for redistributing champion points. I just hate having to re-allocate all the skill points just because I decided to put 6 skill points elsewhere.

Dreyloch

BalticBlues wrote: »

I even wonder:

Why not having both morphs of all skills *always* available to select?
Having to decide for one skill essentially rules out half of all skills.

Example: As a healer for PUGs, in many situations I would like to change a skill morph based on the PUG I find. Playing with a vulnerable PUG of beginners I would prefer "Blessing of Restauration", for a strong PUG with vets I would prefer "Combat Prayer".

ZOS, please give us more options and make all the great skill morphs always available. Thanks!

I like this idea, and would further add skill points should just be account wide like CP's. Running around all over for shards again is such a pointless waste of time when making a new toon. Game has been out for over 2 years. ZoS needs to make leveling alts pretty much instant. Once you go through all the content on a toon and max it out, you shouldn't have to sit thru the extremely boring dialog of NPC's ever again. If you like that pain? Then make it a toggle.

Prof_Bawbag

It can cost as much gold as a full respec, but having the ability to change 1 or even a small selection would be a welcome addition. For me, it's not the gold involved, it's the ballache of having to redistribute the entire allocation of points.