Do you want crown crates implemented in ESO?

Solus

I didnt see a poll in the official post about this, so im making one in the hopes that the mods/devs see our input and make a decision based on the feedback we give them.

Bouldercleave

Other (explain below)

Could not care less. I won't be buying them, so I have no vested interest one way or the other.

Solus

No

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Could not care less. I won't be buying them, so I have no vested interest one way or the other.

So you wouldn't be against the implementation of an RNG box that people would throw money at? I agree that i personally will not participate. But i also just dont want ZOS to put this kind of thing in game. I only want a direct buy type of thing, where i know what i would be buying. Not a bunch of useless stuff that wouldnt amount to 400 crowns.

Abeille

No

In short, I saw what this kind of practice did to other MMOs. The shift in development focus, the scarcity of stuff available through direct purchase, the transition to f2p... Because I love the game and I don't want to see it happening to it, I am against the implementation of these boxes.

Nyx2

No

I feel like some people may not know what "crown crates" means and that it involves gambling for (future) high value items but instead give you every item in the crown store you don't want.

Abeille

No

Nyx2 wrote: »

I feel like some people may not know what "crown crates" means and that it involves gambling for (future) high value items but instead give you every item in the crown store you don't want.

By the answers the people that are okay with them usually post, it also seems that many people have absolutely no experience with the implementation of this kind of system in a MMO and what follows it. They think it won't affect you if you don't buy it because of their lack of experience and information, which is a shame because they are unable to make an informed decision regarding their position on the topic.

Solus

No

Abeille wrote: »

Nyx2 wrote: »

I feel like some people may not know what "crown crates" means and that it involves gambling for (future) high value items but instead give you every item in the crown store you don't want.

By the answers the people that are okay with them usually post, it also seems that many people have absolutely no experience with the implementation of this kind of system in a MMO and what follows it. They think it won't affect you if you don't buy it because of their lack of experience and information, which is a shame because they are unable to make an informed decision regarding their position on the topic.

I agree, I've had similar experiences with these kind of things being implemented in an MMO, and sooner or later it morphs into a P2W type of game, where there's a rare chance you find a weapon or some game changing item. Meanwhile the company is making bank off of people buying them and its really just a dirty way to make a bunch of money.

I dont agree with it, ESO is my favorite MMO so far, and its definitely not because of a slot machine mechanic that i have to pay to get potentially cool things. I like how if i see a cool thing i buy it. If its rare, its a limited time thing. I dont want this in ESO. AT ALL.

Bouldercleave

Other (explain below)

Solus wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Could not care less. I won't be buying them, so I have no vested interest one way or the other.

So you wouldn't be against the implementation of an RNG box that people would throw money at? I agree that i personally will not participate. But i also just dont want ZOS to put this kind of thing in game. I only want a direct buy type of thing, where i know what i would be buying. Not a bunch of useless stuff that wouldnt amount to 400 crowns.

No, I'm not against the implementation of an RNG box that people would throw money at. Like I stated, I couldn't care less if someone wastes their money on these crates. It's their money - who am I to dictate what they can do with it?

It takes the game in a direction that I don't particularly like; but again, that is not my choice to dictate.

I plan on playing this game (and subscribing) until I no longer enjoy it. Then I'll play a different game. I hate to sound so callous and indifferent on the matter, but I'm simply not passionate enough about any GAME to worry about stuff like this.

In essence, my dontgiveashitometer is fully pegged at zero.

Bouldercleave

Other (explain below)

Abeille wrote: »

Nyx2 wrote: »

I feel like some people may not know what "crown crates" means and that it involves gambling for (future) high value items but instead give you every item in the crown store you don't want.

By the answers the people that are okay with them usually post, it also seems that many people have absolutely no experience with the implementation of this kind of system in a MMO and what follows it. They think it won't affect you if you don't buy it because of their lack of experience and information, which is a shame because they are unable to make an informed decision regarding their position on the topic.

Not all of us that are okay with them are inexperienced or uninformed. SOME of us realize that even in the best of times, there is a very finite lifespan to a game (with a notable FEW exceptions), especially an MMO. I don't expect to even remember this game 4-5 years from now.

Technology and graphics advancements will make this game obsolete LONG before the crates can kill it. I do not fault ZoS one bit for implementing a proven revenue stream. The last time I checked, ZoS was a business, not a church.

Kronosphere

Other (explain below)

Its hard cuz i REALLY want the pale velothi guar (I wasnt playing when it released) so i kinda want to get that (not have a chance at getting it, actually GETTING it) so in one way i want the boxes cuz its my only chance at it. but if its a lucky dip from every piece of content that is just silly. wouldnt be AS opposed to there being different boxes that have specific rares in the loot table instead of it being out of eeevery item ever.

Valen_Byte

No

Zo$ already knows that the vast majority of the player base does not want these boxes.

They dont care.

Abeille

No

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Nyx2 wrote: »

I feel like some people may not know what "crown crates" means and that it involves gambling for (future) high value items but instead give you every item in the crown store you don't want.

By the answers the people that are okay with them usually post, it also seems that many people have absolutely no experience with the implementation of this kind of system in a MMO and what follows it. They think it won't affect you if you don't buy it because of their lack of experience and information, which is a shame because they are unable to make an informed decision regarding their position on the topic.

Not all of us that are okay with them are inexperienced or uninformed. SOME of us realize that even in the best of times, there is a very finite lifespan to a game (with a notable FEW exceptions), especially an MMO. I don't expect to even remember this game 4-5 years from now.

Technology and graphics advancements will make this game obsolete LONG before the crates can kill it. I do not fault ZoS one bit for implementing a proven revenue stream. The last time I checked, ZoS was a business, not a church.

I never said all of you were uninformed, just that it was a common situation (note how I said "many people", not "all of them"). It is very easy to find the ones that are uninformed, they are the ones with the "Don't like it, don't buy it, it doesn't affect you" kind of answers.

And there is one thing you might not be taking into consideration. This game has a good chunk of its player base exclusively due to it being TES. We have nowhere to go other than here, and to us, this game will only ever be obsolete if they release another TES MMO. So yes, there is plenty of time for us TES fans to see the crates kill the game, because unlike you, we are the long-term players. LOTRO might not have been a huge success, but it has a dedicated player base that kept it afloat and still releasing updates until now (it is almost 10 years old), and since the situation is similar to ESO (a good chunk of the player base being dedicated fans of the franchise), it could follow a similar path (Edit: Just to be clear, I mean the longevity only here, because I do not expect the crates to cause ESO to shut down, I expect the game to end up with a very small player base that only remains because of their sheer love for the franchise).

Honestly, I think your reason for being okay with the crates is even worse than the ones of people who are merely uninformed, because you really don't care where the game goes since you are already planning of jumping ship

I would rather see ESO be part of the "notable few exceptions", myself. And due to its dedicated fanbase, it actually could be, if ZOS doesn't take this road. But in the end, MMO-hoppers leave, and we the fans of the franchise are the ones left to suffer the consequences. Well done.

Rohamad_Ali

No

No thank you

newtinmpls

No

I think it would be bad for the survival of ESO long term.

Balibe

Not another forum post and poll on this topic, there are several already ..... why start another .....

Farorin

Other (explain below)

If they don't contain exclusive crown crate only items, then I don't care.

If they contain exclusive crate only items,, or items better than you can find ingame, or anything that even remotely smells like pay to win, but for RNG, then i will be aggressively against them.

Abeille

No

Farorin wrote: »

If they don't contain exclusive crown crate only items, then I don't care.

If they contain exclusive crate only items,, or items better than you can find ingame, or anything that even remotely smells like pay to win, but for RNG, then i will be aggressively against them.

They do contain exclusive items. Many, many exclusive items. In fact, most of the items on the PTS Crown Crates seemed to be exclusive to them (they had the tooltip that, according to Gina, meant they were exclusive).

As for items better than what you find ingame, they have a chance of dropping experience scrolls that give a 150% bonus instead of the 50% bonus the ambrosia gives for the same 30 minutes. Personally, I don't consider that p2w, but there are some people who do so I thought I should let you know.

Solus

No

Balibe wrote: »

Not another forum post and poll on this topic, there are several already ..... why start another .....

link? because i looked and didnt see one.

menedhyn

No

"What do you think of crown crates - new poll for its implementation"

Started back in September I think, so easier to find via a forum search.

I chose not to comment in previous polls as I felt indifferent about them initially. I thought to myself that I wouldn't buy them out of principle because i'm a stubborn old so-and-so who won't thrown money at things unnecessarily and isn't easily swayed by such marketing techniques. Plus, I haven't had experience of such items before through other games. Reading the thoughts and insights of others over a period of several weeks has changed my opinion somewhat. I'm still not going to waste my money on them out of principle, but as @Abeille quite rightly points out, i'm more concerned about the longer term effects on ES as a 'fan of the franchise'. Combined with other Crown Store tactics (limited time items, which I strongly disagree with, and the removal of items in general), the whole thing leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

Blame my passion for the game.

Kendaric

No

I won't gamble for anything, plain and simple.
Either I can buy what I want directly from the store or ZOS gets no money beyond my sub from me. And depending on where ZOS are heading with the scam crates, they will play a large part in decision whether to continue to sub or not.

Hairycherry

Other (explain below)

I wouldn't mind Crown Crates but only if the crates contains items worth the spend money, so no rubbish.

Nyx2

No

Hairycherry wrote: »

I wouldn't mind Crown Crates but only if the crates contains items worth the spend money, so no rubbish.

Or imagine you could just buy the items you want without any bs. That's the whole point of boxes like that: making people pay money for all the things they don't want. Didn't get the item you actually want? Too bad, buy more crowns just so we can give you more crap and consumables you don't want.

ZOS_Ragnar

We have closed this thread as there are currently several threads that already discuss this topic. You can find another poll on this topic here; there is also the Official Discussion Thread for Crown Crates