ZOS if nothing else be fair!!!

Judgedread101071

For once i would like to hear an official response to all those threads about the insanly stupid system on VR MSA weapon drops so I am trying to keep them running.
Having completed the arena 250+ times and only going after a sharpened Inferno staff this is what i have to show for it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZulDvY6PNwY
On the other hand we have players who got what they wanted in 10- 20 runs and they are out of that damn place!!
So the question is how fair is it to us the "unfortunate" ones who have spent a'lot of time,effort and in-game gold just to end up with stupid loot and a'lot of anger.
Fair is to reward the players equally if they put the same amount of effort andit's really easy: TOKEN SYSTEM for the love of God or Allah or whatever God you believe in!!! Luck shouldn't have anything to do with it.
Don't bother to tell me i am lucky for getting 2-3 sharpened melee weapons cause i have no use for them.I like mag dd's and thats it.
Trolls who will say "life is unfair and blah blah blah" or "RNG is fine" because they got what they wanted in a few runs, say whatever you want, but it only makes you look stupid in a thread that has a specific subject.
Sorry for the bad resolution of the vid but that was the best i could do.

Voxicity

That is honestly disgusting... I really feel for you. There NEEDS to be some sort of token system BADLY

Wollust

But RNG is fun according to ZoS

Judgedread101071

The thing that annoys me even more than RNG is the fact that there has never been an actual response to all the threads about the loot in there.
I guess in ZOS's mind seems that as long as they don't respont then the problem doesnt exist.

PurifedBladez

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

For once i would like to hear an official response to all those threads about the insanly stupid system on VR MSA weapon drops so I am trying to keep them running.
Having completed the arena 250+ times and only going after a sharpened Inferno staff this is what i have to show for it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZulDvY6PNwY
On the other hand we have players who got what they wanted in 10- 20 runs and they are out of that damn place!!
So the question is how fair is it to us the "unfortunate" ones who have spent a'lot of time,effort and in-game gold just to end up with stupid loot and a'lot of anger.
Fair is to reward the players equally if they put the same amount of effort andit's really easy: TOKEN SYSTEM for the love of God or Allah or whatever God you believe in!!! Luck shouldn't have anything to do with it.
Don't bother to tell me i am lucky for getting 2-3 sharpened melee weapons cause i have no use for them.I like mag dd's and thats it.
Trolls who will say "life is unfair and blah blah blah" or "RNG is fine" because they got what they wanted in a few runs, say whatever you want, but it only makes you look stupid in a thread that has a specific subject.
Sorry for the bad resolution of the vid but that was the best i could do.

I know your frustrations.

I have a sharpened inferno stalve. I haven't even upgraded it yet and probably won't..

Sharpened 2h? Nah bro I don't get that.

Judgedread101071

PurifedBladez wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

For once i would like to hear an official response to all those threads about the insanly stupid system on VR MSA weapon drops so I am trying to keep them running.
Having completed the arena 250+ times and only going after a sharpened Inferno staff this is what i have to show for it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZulDvY6PNwY
On the other hand we have players who got what they wanted in 10- 20 runs and they are out of that damn place!!
So the question is how fair is it to us the "unfortunate" ones who have spent a'lot of time,effort and in-game gold just to end up with stupid loot and a'lot of anger.
Fair is to reward the players equally if they put the same amount of effort andit's really easy: TOKEN SYSTEM for the love of God or Allah or whatever God you believe in!!! Luck shouldn't have anything to do with it.
Don't bother to tell me i am lucky for getting 2-3 sharpened melee weapons cause i have no use for them.I like mag dd's and thats it.
Trolls who will say "life is unfair and blah blah blah" or "RNG is fine" because they got what they wanted in a few runs, say whatever you want, but it only makes you look stupid in a thread that has a specific subject.
Sorry for the bad resolution of the vid but that was the best i could do.

I know your frustrations.

I have a sharpened inferno stalve. I haven't even upgraded it yet and probably won't..

Sharpened 2h? Nah bro I don't get that.

PurifedBladez wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

For once i would like to hear an official response to all those threads about the insanly stupid system on VR MSA weapon drops so I am trying to keep them running.
Having completed the arena 250+ times and only going after a sharpened Inferno staff this is what i have to show for it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZulDvY6PNwY
On the other hand we have players who got what they wanted in 10- 20 runs and they are out of that damn place!!
So the question is how fair is it to us the "unfortunate" ones who have spent a'lot of time,effort and in-game gold just to end up with stupid loot and a'lot of anger.
Fair is to reward the players equally if they put the same amount of effort andit's really easy: TOKEN SYSTEM for the love of God or Allah or whatever God you believe in!!! Luck shouldn't have anything to do with it.
Don't bother to tell me i am lucky for getting 2-3 sharpened melee weapons cause i have no use for them.I like mag dd's and thats it.
Trolls who will say "life is unfair and blah blah blah" or "RNG is fine" because they got what they wanted in a few runs, say whatever you want, but it only makes you look stupid in a thread that has a specific subject.
Sorry for the bad resolution of the vid but that was the best i could do.

I know your frustrations.

I have a sharpened inferno stalve. I haven't even upgraded it yet and probably won't..

Sharpened 2h? Nah bro I don't get that.

It's more anger than frurstration.
The fact is that as long there are people buying their crown items, and new players to replenish the ranks they actually dont give a rat's ass about the minority of people who complain about VR MSA.
And when i send an e-mail to them saying i am almost about to quit the game due the stupid RNG their answer was "good luck and enjoy the new game you choose"

Manoekin

If not a token system at least let the player choose between multiple rewards.

Shader_Shibes

That just goes to show how unfairly and unequally they made the trait drop table. Clearly sharpened is way, way down on the trait ladder.

It's *** but i dont think ZOS are willing to alter the loot system, in there eyes they see it as a means of keeping the player base, when infact it has had the opposite effect in some ways.

Fortunately for me, i farmed it well before DB dlc and got what i needed relatively quickly. Just pains me now thinking about those players who complained about the drop system back then, ZOS listened, and made it far worse.

They must be blind or sadistic, or both to keep this method.

Alucardo

On the plus side, at least you managed to get some Sharpened and Nirnhoned weapons.. some people don't even get that luxury. I'm all for a token system, but I can see why ZOS would have reserves about it. If people could get what they wanted then they'd do that and probably never run vMA again. Hell, I wouldn't go near that place if I had what I wanted.
Manoekin's idea about choosing between multiple rewards isn't a bad idea. It's still RNG, but at least it greatly increases your chances in getting the item you want. It's a fair compromise.

Draxys

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

The thing that annoys me even more than RNG is the fact that there has never been an actual response to all the threads about the loot in there.
I guess in ZOS's mind seems that as long as they don't respont then the problem doesnt exist.

My guess is that if they did respond, they would post overall data like they did with the new undaunted sets when people claimed it was rigged in favor of prosperous/training. They posted a chart that showed even drops across all traits for all players, and basically said "it's fine, you're just unlucky" to all the people (like me) whose undaunted drops consist of mainly the 2 most unwanted traits. They would just do the same here, dismissing the frustration of many people.

Judgedread101071

Draxys wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

The thing that annoys me even more than RNG is the fact that there has never been an actual response to all the threads about the loot in there.
I guess in ZOS's mind seems that as long as they don't respont then the problem doesnt exist.

My guess is that if they did respond, they would post overall data like they did with the new undaunted sets when people claimed it was rigged in favor of prosperous/training. They posted a chart that showed even drops across all traits for all players, and basically said "it's fine, you're just unlucky" to all the people (like me) whose undaunted drops consist of mainly the 2 most unwanted traits. They would just do the same here, dismissing the frustration of many people.

Yeah it seems strange but "RNG" seems to favour specific traits for some people my self included.

Smasherx74

sorry but I started to laugh, then cry.

NolaArch

All those weapons...those traits...terrible
My condolences.

Tryxus

I can already imagine the outcry that's going to happen when 1. ZOS doesn't include a token system in vMSA and vDSA and 2. the gear cap gets raised to cp180 and we have to farm those weapons again...

Judgedread101071

Tryxus wrote: »

I can already imagine the outcry that's going to happen when 1. ZOS doesn't include a token system in vMSA and vDSA and 2. the gear cap gets raised to cp180 and we have to farm those weapons again...

Damn!!! never thought about that!!! Well the day i have to farm for cp180 Maelstrom weapons is the day i quit the game.

Alucardo

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

I can already imagine the outcry that's going to happen when 1. ZOS doesn't include a token system in vMSA and vDSA and 2. the gear cap gets raised to cp180 and we have to farm those weapons again...

Damn!!! never thought about that!!! Well the day i have to farm for cp180 Maelstrom weapons is the day i quit the game.

You can't play ESO without Maelstrom weapons? Man, I'm glad I'm not that reliant on them

Judgedread101071

Alucardo wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

I can already imagine the outcry that's going to happen when 1. ZOS doesn't include a token system in vMSA and vDSA and 2. the gear cap gets raised to cp180 and we have to farm those weapons again...

Damn!!! never thought about that!!! Well the day i have to farm for cp180 Maelstrom weapons is the day i quit the game.

You can't play ESO without Maelstrom weapons? Man, I'm glad I'm not that reliant on them

I have finished everything there is in the game except HM MoL which we r currently working on , so .... no i dont rely on MSA wepons to play the game.But it would help me and my group to get that hard mode in MoL easier with higher dps.
And in case you didn't notice the char in the video has the skin from completing VR MoL.

Palidon

A token system is what is needed. But, you are preaching to the deaf ears of ZOS.

Mush55

Yup ESO the onion game, layers of RNG..

Judgedread101071

Smasherx74 wrote: »

sorry but I started to laugh, then cry.

I do the same every day