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OMG cant log into game I'm paying for!!!

Adamon2
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I last logged off my character in Rawl Kha. Now when I try to log in it tries to log me into that zone; but then kicks back out to login. Great programming. Maybe you should make it so that you can pick where you want to zone in.


Edited to remove all caps title
Edited by ZOS_DaryaK on October 16, 2016 12:37PM
  • NovaShadow
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    Weekend + Rawl is overcrowded.

    Plan ahead, don't log off in Rawl.
    PC NA - EPHS
  • Adamon2
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    Yea. It's the customer's fault. Asking too much of programmers. Maybe allowing us to pick a new zone in location during login?
  • Remorseless
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    7 million players is what is stopping you.
    Vice

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  • jircris11
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    Adamon2 wrote: »
    Yea. It's the customer's fault. Asking too much of programmers. Maybe allowing us to pick a new zone in location during login?

    it is not as simple as you think. And it is our responsibility to at least meet them half way the fact that you think you have ZERO responsibility shows that you lack a basic understanding of any mmo. hell look at WoWs launch for WoD no one could log in for 2 days minimum.
    IGN: Ki'rah
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    DC/AD faction/NA server.
    RPer
  • Adamon2
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    Ok lets to simple then. System cant log you in due to overcrowding. Have system zone you in at the next nearest wayshrine.

    Done.

  • jircris11
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    Adamon2 wrote: »
    Ok lets to simple then. System cant log you in due to overcrowding. Have system zone you in at the next nearest wayshrine.

    Done.

    once again it is not that simple, the system would have to be written to do so and seeing how this game is already a couple years old it would cause more issues then it would solve. You should know better then to log out there considering i have seen MANY forum posts about it. Devs can not help us with everything, it is out job as the player to do some things on our own.
    IGN: Ki'rah
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    DC/AD faction/NA server.
    RPer
  • Adamon2
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    jircris11 wrote: »
    Adamon2 wrote: »
    Yea. It's the customer's fault. Asking too much of programmers. Maybe allowing us to pick a new zone in location during login?

    it is not as simple as you think. And it is our responsibility to at least meet them half way the fact that you think you have ZERO responsibility shows that you lack a basic understanding of any mmo. hell look at WoWs launch for WoD no one could log in for 2 days minimum.

    It's not our responsibility to meet them half way... Whoever filled your head with that did a good job on ya. Good programmers think of these issues and program solutions. They've had this issue before. Remember when they came out with the shadowmen when logging in? They're still using it; but the problem has grown beyond that workaround.
  • Azuramoonstar
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    Name an mmo that does this?

    it happens.. if you read your EUA, the game isn't responsible if you can't log in. :)

    Programming in an mmo isn't easy every mmo experiences this even triple A titles like ff14 and WoW. And that has a sub you must pay, not f2p with optional sub.
    Long time mmo player: 2004-[current year]
    Long time Elder scrolls player: Xbox launch morrowind.
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  • jircris11
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    yes, but there is only so much that can be done. as for who filled my head with these ideas. Well i am speaking from a developer standpoint, i have worked on mmos ranging from tabula rasa, everquest 2, guildwars1 and 2. I know the way companies work and the limitations to the current programs most use. And unless everything was built from the ground up for eso (and we all know its not) then they are limited. hell if you buy a car and it runs out of gas do you blame the car dealer? no it is your responsibility. If you knew this was an issue then it is up to you to take preventive measures until they apply a proper fix. You see millions online right now with no issue about logging in, why? because we KNEW not to log out in a certain area.
    IGN: Ki'rah
    Khajiit/Vampire
    DC/AD faction/NA server.
    RPer
  • Malnutrition
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    I haven't played in a while due to having zero free time but finally managed to get a chance and now I can't log n either due to being in Rawl.

    Edited to remove inflammatory remark.
    Edited by ZOS_DaryaK on October 16, 2016 12:34PM
  • Malnutrition
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    jircris11 wrote: »
    Adamon2 wrote: »
    Ok lets to simple then. System cant log you in due to overcrowding. Have system zone you in at the next nearest wayshrine.

    Done.

    once again it is not that simple, the system would have to be written to do so and seeing how this game is already a couple years old it would cause more issues then it would solve. You should know better then to log out there considering i have seen MANY forum posts about it. Devs can not help us with everything, it is out job as the player to do some things on our own.

    Oh really? I've played since beta and always logged at least one character out in Rawl and this is the first time I've ever had this issue come up.
  • jircris11
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    I haven't played in a while due to having zero free time but finally managed to get a chance and now I can't log n either due to being in Rawl.

    Gotta love all the prigs swarming to this thread.

    you can always try submitting a ticket, it got a guildies character moved within a day. posting about it on here and complaining wont do much good other then get you flamed or made to look like the OP here.
    IGN: Ki'rah
    Khajiit/Vampire
    DC/AD faction/NA server.
    RPer
  • Dagoth_Rac
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    They need to reduce population cap per zone. There are way too many players in Reapers March to not spawn another instance and start sending players there.
  • Cously
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    I had same problem as you, trying to log multiple times did it, took me three tries. Rawl'sha is an absolute hell, I do my best to not log off there unless I crash. It's on ZOS to fix it.
  • Malnutrition
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    jircris11 wrote: »
    I haven't played in a while due to having zero free time but finally managed to get a chance and now I can't log n either due to being in Rawl.

    Gotta love all the prigs swarming to this thread.

    you can always try submitting a ticket, it got a guildies character moved within a day. posting about it on here and complaining wont do much good other then get you flamed or made to look like the OP here.

    Well it can serve as reminder to those who for whatever reason aren't aware of the issue.
  • Malnutrition
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    This is my first weekend playing since well before the One Tamriel update, it honestly never crossed my mind a zone would get so smashed that there would be issues with logging in there.
  • jircris11
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    jircris11 wrote: »
    Adamon2 wrote: »
    Ok lets to simple then. System cant log you in due to overcrowding. Have system zone you in at the next nearest wayshrine.

    Done.

    once again it is not that simple, the system would have to be written to do so and seeing how this game is already a couple years old it would cause more issues then it would solve. You should know better then to log out there considering i have seen MANY forum posts about it. Devs can not help us with everything, it is out job as the player to do some things on our own.

    Oh really? I've played since beta and always logged at least one character out in Rawl and this is the first time I've ever had this issue come up.

    that is because of one tamriel, the population is caped out in that area thus it will not let you log in. before OT released we barley reached 1/2 the cap so it was easy. Rawl is one of the MAIN trade hubs so people enjoy afking/dueling/and selling stuff there. As for your time since beta, i have been here since then as well. in fact was part of every closed beta i could get my hands on. Have seen this game climb then fall due to bugs, now it is finally climbing once more but people expect more skyrim then mmo in it thus the hate. Do i agree with everything ZoS does? no, but i at least understand the trouble they go through in order to bring the game to us. Most of the posters on here have little to no experience on the matter and seem to think this is an easily fixed thing, a single line of code would fix this. the sad truth is that it would require a rather large edit with a sizable down time.
    IGN: Ki'rah
    Khajiit/Vampire
    DC/AD faction/NA server.
    RPer
  • Malnutrition
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    Glad to see the population has actually increased that much, but wish I'd have been logged in a different city. :P
  • Adamon2
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    I've never had this problem before tonight. So logging off in Rawl Kha never was an issue. BTW Jircris11, we all knew you were a developer of some sort from your first post. Not a big surprise.
  • jircris11
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    best advice i can offer is to stop complaining on the forums and keep trying to log in. took me a few trys to get on to someone who was in vulk but i managed. It simply reminds me of the days of mmos when you had to wait 5-10 minutes to log in, nothing horrid and not the end of the world.
    IGN: Ki'rah
    Khajiit/Vampire
    DC/AD faction/NA server.
    RPer
  • Adamon2
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    I've already filed my bug report before I posted here. I've been continually trying to login since before the beginning of this post. That was at 8:31, now 9:19.
  • jircris11
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    spoke with a guildie, try making a new character and logging in then changing to your other one that is stuck. she said it worked for her when she kept getting stuck.
    IGN: Ki'rah
    Khajiit/Vampire
    DC/AD faction/NA server.
    RPer
  • Pangnirtung
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    Adamon2 wrote: »
    I last logged off my character in Rawl Kha. Now when I try to log in it tries to log me into that zone; but then kicks back out to login. Great programming. Maybe you should make it so that you can pick where you want to zone in.

    You aren't the only one that has happened to. All of last night, Friday my main couldn't get into the game but the other toons could. Finally early this morning I was able to get in the have been having sporadic lag issues all day long. Really, really bad lag.

    Bug reports filed.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    They need to fix that fast . I didn't know about this bug and I would be upset too and even more if subscribing .
  • Adamon2
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    jircris11 wrote: »
    spoke with a guildie, try making a new character and logging in then changing to your other one that is stuck. she said it worked for her when she kept getting stuck.

    Thank you for the suggestion. I tried it. I logged in with one of my other alts who is in Glenumbra. Logged in without issue. Tried switching and got kicked after attempting zone in to Reaper's March/Rawl Kha.

  • Adamon2
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    I've been a subscriber since the beginning. Now over one hour...
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Have you tried logging in without the launcher ? I don't know if it makes a difference skipping the loading adds or not , just throwing ideas around .
  • Qyrk
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    Keep trying . Happening to me just now. After the 3rd try, I got in.
  • Adamon2
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    Have you tried logging in without the launcher ? I don't know if it makes a difference skipping the loading adds or not , just throwing ideas around .

    Thank you for the suggestion. I tried it. No difference. It's has to be the zone population issue.
  • Adamon2
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    Qyrk wrote: »
    Keep trying . Happening to me just now. After the 3rd try, I got in.

    You're probably one of those that gets good RNG in game too. :( I don't know how many times I've tried but it's now 9:57; started before 8:30. Tech support did send me a nice reply, "We're Closed". So at least I got that going for me.
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