ESO trolling us

Magus

Okay, so after all week talking about how viper is OP and broken combined with other proc sets... the golden is selling viper rings. Everyone gets to run viper now. LFG for fungal grotto run btw.

Lord_Hev

Oh boy....

leepalmer95

They did the same with malubeth.

2 Weeks of people posting how broken malubeth was, when it was still really bugged.

They stick the shoulders on the vendor.

Magus

leepalmer95 wrote: »

They did the same with malubeth.

2 Weeks of people posting how broken malubeth was, when it was still really bugged.

They stick the shoulders on the vendor.

Haha yep, I immediately thought of that too. Makes me think they are listening and trolling us. Or is it just a coincidence?

PrinceFabious

More bad players thinking they are relevant with blackrose/viper/tumorscale

RadioheadSh0t

PrinceFabious wrote: »

More bad players thinking they are relevant with blackrose/viper/tumorscale

I don't think anyone who runs Fasalla's and Viper has any grounds to criticize what other people run.

PrinceFabious

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

More bad players thinking they are relevant with blackrose/viper/tumorscale

I don't think anyone who runs Fasalla's and Viper has any grounds to criticize what other people run.

Whats wrong with Fasalla in open world? The only reason someone complained about it was because some tard used caltrops on me in a 1v1 -and complained it procced too often. I took off viper for good. If you decide you wanna go full primate and insert another primitive response, I think reddit would be more suited and tailored to your low I.Q. thinking.

caeliusstarbreaker

PrinceFabious wrote: »

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

More bad players thinking they are relevant with blackrose/viper/tumorscale

I don't think anyone who runs Fasalla's and Viper has any grounds to criticize what other people run.

Whats wrong with Fasalla in open world? The only reason someone complained about it was because some tard used caltrops on me in a 1v1 -and complained it procced too often. I took off viper for good. If you decide you wanna go full primate and insert another primitive response, I think reddit would be more suited and tailored to your low I.Q. thinking.

I think what he/she may be eluding to, however snarky, and to clarify I legit don't care what either of you are running, it's in the game go for it, is that the unrivaled sustain and dmg in heavy from black rose that you see as negative, is equal in power and disgust from opponents as a set that reduces healing by 50% with no cool down and close to 100% uptime in combat. And the condemning of one and praise of the other, may come off a bit pretentious.

Minalan

Having problems with proc sets? Too much proc damage in PVP? Here, I've got something for you

Lol. Troebel'ed

RadioheadSh0t

PrinceFabious wrote: »

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

More bad players thinking they are relevant with blackrose/viper/tumorscale

I don't think anyone who runs Fasalla's and Viper has any grounds to criticize what other people run.

Whats wrong with Fasalla in open world? The only reason someone complained about it was because some tard used caltrops on me in a 1v1 -and complained it procced too often. I took off viper for good. If you decide you wanna go full primate and insert another primitive response, I think reddit would be more suited and tailored to your low I.Q. thinking.

Using ad hominem while overreacting to criticism, I think we all know who has the low IQ here.

If you don't think Fasalla's is on par with the other terrible [SNIP] sets, you're simply biased because you run it.

Esgameplaya1

PrinceFabious wrote: »

More bad players thinking they are relevant with blackrose/viper/tumorscale

#POMPOUS

thankyourat

PrinceFabious wrote: »

More bad players thinking they are relevant with blackrose/viper/tumorscale

Lol there's no way they think that build requires any talent

Fatalyis

thankyourat wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

More bad players thinking they are relevant with blackrose/viper/tumorscale

Lol there's no way they think that build requires any talent

Sure they do...they're all over Twitch / YouTube

Lord_Hev

The difference between Blackrose/Tremor/Viper/Veli abuse Vs. Fasalla is almost night and day.


One set-up counters every other thing in the game in the cheesiest way possible.


The other set-up... is a direct counter to said OP combo.... and is only marginally advantageous against magic builds. And in order to remain advantageous over the typical magic build, must sacrifice sustain to pump up the damage necessary to address magic build's shield usage.


One set-up has everything wrapped up in a nice package. The other set up still requires some thought process and resource management.

Satiar

Lord_Hev wrote: »

The difference between Blackrose/Tremor/Viper/Veli abuse Vs. Fasalla is almost night and day.


One set-up counters every other thing in the game in the cheesiest way possible.


The other set-up... is a direct counter to said OP combo.... and is only marginally advantageous against magic builds. And in order to remain advantageous over the typical magic build, must sacrifice sustain to pump up the damage necessary to address magic build's shield usage.


One set-up has everything wrapped up in a nice package. The other set up still requires some thought process and resource management.

Sort of, except Fasallas builds generally included Reverberating Bash and some points in defile, ending in over 80% reduced healing taken up to roughly 90%.

The mechanics of Fasallas are also total BS, in that it has no internal cool down and is procced by literally everything.

Proc meta is worse, but let's not pretend those debuff builds aren't their own type of cheese.

RadioheadSh0t

Lord_Hev wrote: »

The difference between Blackrose/Tremor/Viper/Veli abuse Vs. Fasalla is almost night and day.


One set-up counters every other thing in the game in the cheesiest way possible.


The other set-up... is a direct counter to said OP combo.... and is only marginally advantageous against magic builds. And in order to remain advantageous over the typical magic build, must sacrifice sustain to pump up the damage necessary to address magic build's shield usage.


One set-up has everything wrapped up in a nice package. The other set up still requires some thought process and resource management.

Just because I'm criticizing Fasalla's doesn't mean I'm defending any other set. I do personally think Fasalla's is a [SNIP] set, like Viper/Veli combos and the majority of new sets with 1T, because it stacks with major defile for nearly a full health debuff.

My main point is about the hypocrisy of a Fasalla's/Viper user criticizing what other people run. I run a Magicka Sorc without any Gimmicks because I would rather push myself to use skillful gameplay as opposed to gimmicks (I just picked up the Mortar undaunted and I'm hesitant to even use it in a duel because I find Proc sets cheesy).

NBrookus

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

Just because I'm criticizing Fasalla's doesn't mean I'm defending any other set. I do personally think Fasalla's is a [SNIP] set, like Viper/Veli combos and the majority of new sets with 1T, because it stacks with major defile for nearly a full health debuff.

Stacks with minor defile, too. A debuff tank is the counterbuild to malubeth/reactive templars and heal blobs hiding under AoE caps. Should there be no counter play to that other than bringing a bigger zerg?

If a non-tank gives up a set bonus to run Fasallas, they either give up regen or damage or some of both, and have to run a more balanced build. The set proc combo users like Viper/Veli give up nothing.

donJay

"Fasallas is so cheese" -everyone who doesn't realize the lack of dmg/sustain it gives and who do not know how to easily counter it by not attacking for 2 seconds.

"But wait, it keeps procing off my dots and aoe's. That's super [SNIP] and op"

Welcome to pvp that requires thought. The player sacrificed sustain and dmg. Now it's your turn to figure out how to play against it.

Flawlless

Those having trouble with getting bursted down by proc builds should look into the Blessed set. It's an overland set that drops in cold harbor.

zuto40

if youre having trouble with proc sets, i suggest you L2P, on my mageblade i never lost in a 1v1 to someone with only proc sets, no black rose+velidreth+viper ever beat me in a 1v1, the problem i see with most people is they try to 1vX multiple people wearing proc sets, then they lose and complain

Lore_lai

PrinceFabious wrote: »

tumorscale

LOL

Ragnaroek93

LOL at people who think that Fasalla is balanced

HoloYoitsu

zuto40 wrote: »

if youre having trouble with proc sets, i suggest you L2P, on my mageblade i never lost in a 1v1 to someone with only proc sets, no black rose+velidreth+viper ever beat me in a 1v1, the problem i see with most people is they try to 1vX multiple people wearing proc sets, then they lose and complain

God_flakes

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

More bad players thinking they are relevant with blackrose/viper/tumorscale

I don't think anyone who runs Fasalla's and Viper has any grounds to criticize what other people run.

Whats wrong with Fasalla in open world? The only reason someone complained about it was because some tard used caltrops on me in a 1v1 -and complained it procced too often. I took off viper for good. If you decide you wanna go full primate and insert another primitive response, I think reddit would be more suited and tailored to your low I.Q. thinking.

Using ad hominem while overreacting to criticism, I think we all know who has the low IQ here.

If you don't think Fasalla's is on par with the other terrible [SNIP] sets, you're simply biased because you run it.

Such sass. I guess Dub killed ya one too many times.

Sandman929

Fasallas is a 2 second debuff. It's very strong if the attacker has something like Caltrops on you, but it's in no way on the same level as the proc damage garbage. It's what all proc sets should be, a buff/debuff window that has to be capitalized on to be effective.

RadioheadSh0t

God_flakes wrote: »

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

More bad players thinking they are relevant with blackrose/viper/tumorscale

I don't think anyone who runs Fasalla's and Viper has any grounds to criticize what other people run.

Whats wrong with Fasalla in open world? The only reason someone complained about it was because some tard used caltrops on me in a 1v1 -and complained it procced too often. I took off viper for good. If you decide you wanna go full primate and insert another primitive response, I think reddit would be more suited and tailored to your low I.Q. thinking.

Using ad hominem while overreacting to criticism, I think we all know who has the low IQ here.

If you don't think Fasalla's is on par with the other terrible [SNIP] sets, you're simply biased because you run it.

Such sass. I guess Dub killed ya one too many times.

Or maybe he was just acting like a child (which is why so many of his posts got deleted).

I could care less if some FOTM [SNIP] build killed me.

God_flakes

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

More bad players thinking they are relevant with blackrose/viper/tumorscale

I don't think anyone who runs Fasalla's and Viper has any grounds to criticize what other people run.

Whats wrong with Fasalla in open world? The only reason someone complained about it was because some tard used caltrops on me in a 1v1 -and complained it procced too often. I took off viper for good. If you decide you wanna go full primate and insert another primitive response, I think reddit would be more suited and tailored to your low I.Q. thinking.

Using ad hominem while overreacting to criticism, I think we all know who has the low IQ here.

If you don't think Fasalla's is on par with the other terrible [SNIP] sets, you're simply biased because you run it.

Such sass. I guess Dub killed ya one too many times.

Or maybe he was just acting like a child (which is why so many of his posts got deleted).

I could care less if some FOTM [SNIP] build killed me.

Frankly I don't understand all this bickering over sets. My partner and I have spent the last week pouring over sets and farming them for me and trialling them. It is a grueling and soul sucking process that for some god forsaken reason the devs decided we all need to be tortured with in order to pvp. I can't hardly blame someone if they find a set that works for them and that they have fun in. Whether the set is broken or "[SNIP] " or whatever is hardly their fault. I've seen Dub play and he's good. He's mobile and pretty talented-and sure he's killed me a number of times. He's a challenge to fight and I'm sure he's good in any set.

Magus

There's an in-crowd of teenage boys who trash talk and say things like 1v1 me, take off your heavy armor, scrub, you are the worst player I've ever seen, exposed, crutch on X set, etc, etc.

In short, there are two types of players. People that come into the game to have fun with friends and the tryhards who when they get killed will challenge you to 1v1 and use every advantage the game provides - vitality potions, poisons, overperforming sets. They will also call things they don't like [SNIP] and then when it's something they use call it balanced. There is no 1v1 balance in this game, period, full stop lol.

TL;DR don't feed the trolls, laugh at them

kadar

Magus wrote: »

There's an in-crowd of teenage boys who trash talk and say things like 1v1 me, take off your heavy armor, scrub, you are the worst player I've ever seen, exposed, crutch on X set, etc, etc.

In short, there are two types of players. People that come into the game to have fun with friends and the tryhards who when they get killed will challenge you to 1v1 and use every advantage the game provides - vitality potions, poisons, overperforming sets. They will also call things they don't like [SNIP] and then when it's something they use call it balanced. There is no 1v1 balance in this game, period, full stop lol.

TL;DR don't feed the trolls, laugh at them

Word(s?).

If you want to make someone throw back their head and laugh out loud, do one of two things:
1) ask them to 1v1 after they kill you.
2) ask them about their macros after they kill you.
Nothing brings me greater joy than receiving a rage tell of that nature.

HoloYoitsu

The_Outsider wrote: »

Magus wrote: »

There's an in-crowd of teenage boys who trash talk and say things like 1v1 me, take off your heavy armor, scrub, you are the worst player I've ever seen, exposed, crutch on X set, etc, etc.

In short, there are two types of players. People that come into the game to have fun with friends and the tryhards who when they get killed will challenge you to 1v1 and use every advantage the game provides - vitality potions, poisons, overperforming sets. They will also call things they don't like cancer and then when it's something they use call it balanced. There is no 1v1 balance in this game, period, full stop lol.

TL;DR don't feed the trolls, laugh at them

Word(s?).

If you want to make someone throw back their head and laugh out loud, do one of two things:
1) ask them to 1v1 after they kill you.
2) ask them about their macros after they kill you.
Nothing brings me greater joy than receiving a rage tell of that nature.

IC is the has the best ratio of rage telling.

Apparently I'm a leech who steals other's stones cuz I'm too bad to farm my own.

Fruitdog

God_flakes wrote: »

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

More bad players thinking they are relevant with blackrose/viper/tumorscale

I don't think anyone who runs Fasalla's and Viper has any grounds to criticize what other people run.

Whats wrong with Fasalla in open world? The only reason someone complained about it was because some tard used caltrops on me in a 1v1 -and complained it procced too often. I took off viper for good. If you decide you wanna go full primate and insert another primitive response, I think reddit would be more suited and tailored to your low I.Q. thinking.

Using ad hominem while overreacting to criticism, I think we all know who has the low IQ here.

If you don't think Fasalla's is on par with the other terrible Cancer sets, you're simply biased because you run it.

Such sass. I guess Dub killed ya one too many times.

Or maybe he was just acting like a child (which is why so many of his posts got deleted).

I could care less if some FOTM [SNIP] build killed me.

Frankly I don't understand all this bickering over sets. My partner and I have spent the last week pouring over sets and farming them for me and trialling them. It is a grueling and soul sucking process that for some god forsaken reason the devs decided we all need to be tortured with in order to pvp. I can't hardly blame someone if they find a set that works for them and that they have fun in. Whether the set is broken or "[SNIP] " or whatever is hardly their fault. I've seen Dub play and he's good. He's mobile and pretty talented-and sure he's killed me a number of times. He's a challenge to fight and I'm sure he's good in any set.

Your partner sounds like a good guy, I bet he brings the best lasagnas.