Master, Maelstrom weapons

Edziu

so for this moment except master sword and resto for support, rest master weapons is just like nonstet crafted weapons, while all maelstorm weapons are useful and some are op(dual and bow).

TheDarkRuler

I miss the option: Leave it be!

Humatiel

you seem to be missing the "buff maelstrom and leave master alone" option.

cjthibs

Just implement a token system so they are available to more than the folks who are willing to grind for days and weeks on end.

Voxicity

Buff maelstrom and nerf master

Mic1007

How about 'none of the above'?

Just leave them be.

Edziu

nerf a bit maelstrom (only op) weaps and buff master weaps

Humatiel wrote: »

you seem to be missing the "buff maelstrom and leave master alone" option.

so, bow can look for ok......and now please show me any good point between master dagger and nonset crafted weapon? while also from maelstrom on dual you can get axe, mace and daggr while master only dagger, all you know meta for MSA dual dps

2h, for what hell sake is this almost nothing buff to brawler also as almost unusable skill while from malstrom I nonsto see people with this weapon and skill

destro staff, with light attack and just wall of elements is good to dps but show me any good poit to this almost nothing bonust to destro touch from master weapon, dot from this also is crap and you dont need master staf to use it for knocback on pvp

cjthibs wrote: »

Just implement a token system so they are available to more than the folks who are willing to grind for days and weeks on end.

no this theard isn't about sick rng, this is about comparing power of those weapons while most of master weapons you cant compare to maelstrom...this is same thing as compare nonset weapons to maelstrom

Izaki

buff master weaps and don't touch maelstrom

Buff vMA staves. Buff all master weapons.

CultOfMMO

Never done vDSA myself, but i also never hear anyone complain about how impossibly hard it is or anyone seeking help on completing it.

for vMA that is the complete opposite. So i think its safe to assume vDSA is no where near as difficult as vMA?

if thats the case, then there should be a disparity, a large one at that.

Stop complaining about how OP vMA weapons are, anyone can get those mystical weapons (non optimal trait) if you just sit down and learn the damn thing. Its becoming a joke how fast i can clear it. I forgot to pick up my second mundus the other day still got 525k score on my stamblade.

Getern

nerf a bit maelstrom (only op) weaps and buff master weaps

Basicly completing vDSA is more difficult than vMA. U gotta have like other 3 good players who know what they are doing to beat vDSA, while potential reward might be crap, considering that only bow and mehh... maybe staves might be worth something IMO. vMA seems to be like nerfed, dps is too good for this nowadays and the most important u are not dependent on others to complete it. Most of the weapons have great use, the only thing which limits it is crappy trait. Still it requires less time and effort. Thats why vDSA, considering effort required should be better, well... seems logic? isnt it?

Edziu

nerf a bit maelstrom (only op) weaps and buff master weaps

@CultOfMMO I dont have to much problem with op for vMSA weapons, I have problem with useless vDSA weapons which also are no worth use except bow and resto

Totalitarian

CultOfMMO wrote: »

So i think its safe to assume vDSA is no where near as difficult as vMA?

vDSA is basically a 4-man vMA. The mobs themselves don't hit nearly as hard as vMA mobs, but there are a lot more of them.

The mechanics in vDSA are not as hard as vMA mechanics; you don't have to pay as much attention to the arena, and mobs all spawn in the same areas.

That being said, vDSA requires a tank that can pull big groups of mobs and sustain their own resources. In a few of the fights, the tank is going to be separated from the DPS, or the DPS and healer.

Healer needs to be able to taunt final boss for a burn.

Basically, if you have a group that's vMA ready, you're good to go. A tank who has experience in normal trials, vMA worthy DPS, and a practiced dungeon healer (they don't need to be experienced in trials), then you're well qualified, and can get through it all so long as you know the mechanics to a few of the fights.

vDSA lacks the cheesy 1-shot mechanics of vMA, but all of the bosses have enrage timers, and you have to rely on your group to help you through it.

Also, your 1st clear of vDSA will take far less time than your 1st clear of vMA. To give you an idea, my 1st vDSA clear was ~2.5 hours, and if I were to finish vMA, my total time would be ~8 hours. That being said, once you get the hang of them, vDSA will take longer to clear because it's simply a longer arena.

TLDR: vDSA basically has the same skill requirements as vMA. If you have DPS that have done vMA or have the potential to do vMA, and a tank and healer with adequate experience, you're good to go, and should be able to do the arena.

Edziu

nerf a bit maelstrom (only op) weaps and buff master weaps

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Skinzz

Nerf this thread.

Banana

How about only drop them in good traits

Mady

buff master weaps and don't touch maelstrom

Just stop with the nerfs O.o

Enslaved

buff master weaps and don't touch maelstrom

Banana wrote: »

How about only drop them in good traits

How about that good traits drop only from crown crates?

Nickernator

Don't nerf them, but allow them to drop on normal too. Veteran just takes a lot of time, and feels punishing if you get the wrong weapon after hours

Edziu

nerf a bit maelstrom (only op) weaps and buff master weaps

xskinzcity wrote: »

Nerf this thread.

nerf you and buff rest for balance

Mady wrote: »

Just stop with the nerfs O.o

Nickernator wrote: »

Don't nerf them, but allow them to drop on normal too. Veteran just takes a lot of time, and feels punishing if you get the wrong weapon after hours

so this is wahy is vote with no nerfing them with just buff to master

Banana wrote: »

How about only drop them in good traits

how about this is not a trait problem but enchants problem?

idk

@Edziu

Second worst poll I have seen created. Obviously totally biased. Zos will not look at this poll for more than 1/2 a second due to how it is built.

Maybe Zos should have an educational video that would be required in order to create a poll. Guess it does not matter since the design does not permit it to show what the game population, or even the forum population, thinks.

Edziu

nerf a bit maelstrom (only op) weaps and buff master weaps

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

@Edziu

Second worst poll I have seen created. Obviously totally biased. Zos will not look at this poll for more than 1/2 a second due to how it is built.

Maybe Zos should have an educational video that would be required in order to create a poll. Guess it does not matter since the design does not permit it to show what the game population, or even the forum population, thinks.

so please create better poll on this thread or write me it on private message how create better pool to this thread

and sadly cant make any video because of my computer with program on to make videos with game at once

but for most those weapons do you need any video to see this big difference between master and msa dual? master and msa destro? etc

idk

Edziu wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

@Edziu

Second worst poll I have seen created. Obviously totally biased. Zos will not look at this poll for more than 1/2 a second due to how it is built.

Maybe Zos should have an educational video that would be required in order to create a poll. Guess it does not matter since the design does not permit it to show what the game population, or even the forum population, thinks.

so please create better poll on this thread or write me it on private message how create better pool to this thread

and sadly cant make any video because of my computer with program on to make videos with game at once

but for most those weapons do you need any video to see this big difference between master and msa dual? master and msa destro? etc

The video would be from Zos to educate people on how to create a decent poll.

As for your poll, you clearly want one thing and only one thing and that is the two types of weapons be similar in benefit via nerfing or buffing.

You do not even have a choice for leave them like they are. Clearly biased poll designed to deliver results you desire.

Wifeaggro13

Edziu wrote: »

so for this moment except master sword and resto for support, rest master weapons is just like nonstet crafted weapons, while all maelstorm weapons are useful and some are op(dual and bow).

how about the option of make the best weapons in game drop from hard group content instead of a damn solo instance that uses a one build option to finish. its silly its an MMO . For a game that touted play as you want as its tag line for its design. at the end of the game its play as your option of the top 3 dps specs as you want.

Edziu

nerf a bit maelstrom (only op) weaps and buff master weaps

Wifeaggro13 wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

so for this moment except master sword and resto for support, rest master weapons is just like nonstet crafted weapons, while all maelstorm weapons are useful and some are op(dual and bow).

how about the option of make the best weapons in game drop from hard group content instead of a damn solo instance that uses a one build option to finish. its silly its an MMO . For a game that touted play as you want as its tag line for its design. at the end of the game its play as your option of the top 3 dps specs as you want.

yes this is stupid, now msa weapons from solo instance are bis, DSA is group and isnt now that very hard and weapons are much worse than msa while it is more time eating this dsa, also will be nice if ZOS will add maybe 3rd? new master weaps better than msa, dsa and dropped only from vet trials or from hardmode vet trials? finally will be a bit of true MMO game, the best items from the hardest group content, not solo