Essence Thief Proc Bugged

Preyfar

https://youtu.be/wW2gNkoOgZk
(Snippet from a fight where I spent over 5 minutes doing nothing but light attacking trying to get this set to proc).

Whenever I use Essence Thief it rarely, if ever, procs. I decided to go with the set as a stamina sustain build (Essence Thief + VO). On paper, it looks great. 15% chance when causing damage with light attacks to draw essence from an enemy. Collecting the essence restores 4300 Health and Stamina and increases your damage by 12% for 10 seconds. But I've stood there, on enemy bosses, light attacking for 5 minutes and never had it proc.

Don't get me wrong, it DOES proc, and I'll catch it every so often. It's not completely broken, but it's definitely does not seem like a 15% chance to proc, unless there's some bizarre cooldown on the set. This is just broken, and I rather regret upgrading the Essence Thief weapons to gold.

I light attacked over 60 times in the above video. No proc. Either this is the worst RNG known to man or something's not proccing. Add up all the other times, it was well over 200+ times without a proc. Something doesn't seem right here.

Just updating that I've reported it in game with reference #161008-002124.

Preyfar

Just updating that I've figured out the issue - rewatching the video and knowing more about how the set works I do see that it procs, but it's really hard to see the procs in a large fight with grounds AOEs.

Newk

Damn i had hoped this was a recent bug, but it has been here for a while, probably because not a lot of people use the set I guess. But the set does indeed seem to be bugged. Out of 194 light attacks it procced once for me. It seems like it's more akin to 1.5% and not 15% at the moment.

(My bug report and video proof.)
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/305633/essence-thief-proc-chance-bugged/p1?new=1

EDIT: The set is not bugged. We have just both overlooked how the set work. When it proc's essence is "ejected" from your target, and a blue circle will appear close to the mob. To get the "essence" you need to step onto the blue circle.

Preyfar

Newk wrote: »

Damn i had hoped this was a recent bug, but it has been here for a while, probably because not a lot of people use the set I guess. But the set does indeed seem to be bugged. Out of 194 light attacks it procced once for me. It seems like it's more akin to 1.5% and not 15% at the moment.

(My bug report and video proof.)
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/305633/essence-thief-proc-chance-bugged/p1?new=1

EDIT: The set is not bugged. We have just both overlooked how the set work. When it proc's essence is "ejected" from your target, and a blue circle will appear close to the mob. To get the "essence" you need to step onto the blue circle.

Yeah, I realized that after when I updated. The biggest problem with Essence Thief is that the way the set works pretty much makes the set almost useless. Since the essence flies out in random directions and the DPS need to hunt them down that can be a challenge in most fights since there's a ton of AOEs, ground effects and other problems which make the set's essence really, REALLY hard to see.

In trials, the set is entirely useless because in most fights you can't afford to be running around out of place non-stop. Which is sad. I had really, REALLY high hopes for the set.

kylewwefan

I was wandering the same thing. Been getting tons of this stuff farming ICP an when I tried it, well it never seemed to proc. never noticed any little blue circles to chase around. Good for elegant lining I guess.

AzuraKin

good to know i shouldnt farm for the set.

Preyfar

kylewwefan wrote: »

I was wandering the same thing. Been getting tons of this stuff farming ICP an when I tried it, well it never seemed to proc. never noticed any little blue circles to chase around. Good for elegant lining I guess.

The only way for the set to be remotely viable is if the essence spheres floated above ground (similar to how Lord Warden's defensive orbs work). Because otherwise, with sets like Grothdarr, various ultimates, there's so much going in on the average fight you can't see them.

The set really needs to be reworked.

AzuraKin wrote: »

good to know i shouldnt farm for the set.

On paper this set seems like it should one of the best for a stamina build, but in reality it's one of the worst.Q

ArtOfShred

Out of curiosity since I don't have the set readily available to test - how long do the Essences remain on the ground? If they last for a while that could provide some interesting play if they ever change the mechanics a bit.

MartiniDaniels

2019 and it's still not even close to 15%. From my tests (several 6m dummies hit with only LA to death) proc rate was 6-8%. I may provide video, CMX logs etc...
Can we fix it? Why introduce set to the DLC content and then set is not working like in description for years.