Do You Wish Z Had Let You Upgrade Jewels?

radiostar

Jewelcrafting was swatted down hard by Z.
But do you want the ability to upgrade dropped jewels like you can upgrade other dropped set items?
Anon, so just vote your conscience

andreasranasen

Makes 0 sense that we can't improve jewelry. Make it happen! Or at least give us gold willpower jewelry -_-

mertusta

I'm not so sure but being able to upgrade jewelries may kill grinding. I'm not fan of spending hours to get single item but there is only 3 option for jewelries already (magic, stamina, hp) which makes them easier to obtain than armor pieces. I believe that people should show some effort to get specific items, otherwise that makes game too easy and would not be beneficial for the economy.

Lord_Eomer

If i will be able to upgrade my jewelry to gold then i will never run vet trials or dungeon vet hard modes..or simply who will care about golden vendor for gold jewlery..

Simply no reason for me..

Mayrael

Other. I think the most of us would agree that we should be able not only upgrade jewlery but also craft it! Not only we have now dosens of new droped sets but also almost every noncrafted set have jewlery now (with some exceptions) but where is our crafted jewlery? Where are our new sets? Why crafters are screwed? Because balance? LOOOOOOL!!!! With this new sets its the last argument that should be used. Jewlery craft!

Midori_Oku

Personally, I believe we should at least be able to upgrade to at least purple. Being able to upgrade all the way to gold (while I wouldn't complain) is a bit too easy. However, there should be a chance for gold jewelry to drop. Having to wait for the weekly PvP vendor each week for a random selection isn't fun. It could literally be months, if not longer before what you want could show up.

Edit: I would like to see jewelry crafting for crafted sets though. That would add an even larger variety of potential unique builds to the game.

Horker

i would like yewelry crafting aswell, like being able to craft all craftable sets in yewelry aswell, so ppl who actually are noobs like me who actually suk at grinding can also combo 5set/5set with crafted pieces

OtarTheMad

I remember when I heard they had jewelry crafting in the game all the way until beta and then trashed it due to bugs. I was disappointed that they didn't try to refine it and make it happen. Would make all these green and blue jewelry drops I am getting since the patch landed a lot easier to swallow. This would also improve the games economy as well.

magnusthorek

Gimme mah bling, bling, Z

Bryanonymous

OtarTheMad wrote: »

I remember when I heard they had jewelry crafting in the game all the way until beta and then trashed it due to bugs. I was disappointed that they didn't try to refine it and make it happen. Would make all these green and blue jewelry drops I am getting since the patch landed a lot easier to swallow. This would also improve the games economy as well.

Wow, so the design already exists. We need this feature now more than ever. I hope they have this on their agenda.

Mojmir

getting very few desirable jewels so far in purple,and I refuse to screw up my cps for treasure hunter

Liofa

I support this idea but there is a problem about this . If I can upgrade my jewelry , for example , purple to yellow ; why would I even try to do veteran now ? There would be no point . I could just go normal mode , finish it in 5 minutes and upgrade the jewelry I got from there . Harder content awarding more is a good thing . Jewelry crafting I would really like for more diversity but upgrading jewelry is not a good idea .

stevepdodson_ESO888

mertusta wrote: »

I'm not so sure but being able to upgrade jewelries may kill grinding. I'm not fan of spending hours to get single item but there is only 3 option for jewelries already (magic, stamina, hp) which makes them easier to obtain than armor pieces. I believe that people should show some effort to get specific items, otherwise that makes game too easy and would not be beneficial for the economy.

but grinding over and over again for the piece you want (be that jewellery, weaps or armour) is not fun and is not end-game content...which sadly seems to be the way the game has gone

idk

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Zos devs stated near PC launch they would look at adding jewelry crafting. It was a statement that made sense because it is the only gear we cannot craft or upgrade.

However, 30 months later I do not see it on the horizon even with the major overhauls that have occurred at least twice since.

Izaki

Now that the only gold jewelry we can get is Vicious Ophidian, Infallible Aether, Eternal Yokeda, Alkosh, Moondance, Lunar Bastion and those revamped "crap" versions of the above, it kinda makes sense to introduce jewelry improving. You see gear isn't so much of a problem when you're in a trial guild anyway, you get it pretty quick by swapping with your group. You're still gonna do the hard modes because its fun.
All the other jewelry is now purple unless you buy it off the Golden. Which makes sense in a way... But you're giving 250k to a NPC... Isn't that kinda strange? You could be spending that gold on upgrading materials for your brand new gear or your potions for your next trial run. Instead you pretty much chuck it in the trash. So yeah jewelry improvement (and spell crafting) should be a thing. But I don't think jewelry crafting is a very good idea as it will literally lift ALL the restrictions (we don't have many) on gearing and will allow for really abused combos which in turn would lead to our favorite crafting sets getting nerfed.

GDOFWR420

This should already have happened. Just my opinion

shadowwraith666

Not just upgrading but crafting as well.

Sallington

jewelry crafting is LONG overdue. Being able to craft 5-piece sets including jewelry would open up a whole new world of builds.

idk

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

Now that the only gold jewelry we can get is Vicious Ophidian, Infallible Aether, Eternal Yokeda, Alkosh, Moondance, Lunar Bastion and those revamped "crap" versions of the above, it kinda makes sense to introduce jewelry improving. You see gear isn't so much of a problem when you're in a trial guild anyway, you get it pretty quick by swapping with your group. You're still gonna do the hard modes because its fun.
All the other jewelry is now purple unless you buy it off the Golden. Which makes sense in a way... But you're giving 250k to a NPC... Isn't that kinda strange? You could be spending that gold on upgrading materials for your brand new gear or your potions for your next trial run. Instead you pretty much chuck it in the trash. So yeah jewelry improvement (and spell crafting) should be a thing. But I don't think jewelry crafting is a very good idea as it will literally lift ALL the restrictions (we don't have many) on gearing and will allow for really abused combos which in turn would lead to our favorite crafting sets getting nerfed.

The old gold jewelry is still available via the Cyrodiil vendor. Some sort of rotation.

Asardes

Not that it mattered much. I've compared purple and gold jewelry side by side - got a gold and a purple vicious death necklace as PvP campaign rewards - and the difference between them was withing 0.5% of total player stats. Even if it was possible I won't waste my gold tempers upgrading the purple jewelry to gold. And the former is pretty easy to get that I won't bother to upgrade blue to purple either.

Khairiah

Asardes wrote: »

Not that it mattered much. I've compared purple and gold jewelry side by side - got a gold and a purple vicious death necklace as PvP campaign rewards - and the difference between them was withing 0.5% of total player stats. Even if it was possible I won't waste my gold tempers upgrading the purple jewelry to gold. And the former is pretty easy to get that I won't bother to upgrade blue to purple either.

Exactly.. the quality difference in jewelry(and armor for that matter) is very little and wont make your DPS jump sky high anyway. Only weapons really makes a noticeable difference..

Im on the NO side, both to jewelry crafting and jewelry upgrading..

Ghost-Shot

Even after getting the treasure hunter CP passive, I'm still getting mostly green necks and rings dropped, the very same sets that I was regularly getting gold versions of last patch, I can now only seem to get in green, such a joke. @ZOS_RichLambert green quality gear is a quest reward, when I'm gearing up for endgame content, green necks/rings are more useless than ornate gear, at least that vendors for a good price. The base drop for these needs to be blue and have like a 25% chance to upgrade to purple when it drops, think warforged in WoW.

Slightly more on topic, I would love to be able to upgrade our necks/rings to gold but I think it should be a bit of a grind to do so, lots of PvP, dungeons, or raids to obtain some sort of mat to do the upgrade. Crafting BiS items is already way to easy and I would like to see some effort go into something in the gearing process.

Mayrael

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

Now that the only gold jewelry we can get is Vicious Ophidian, Infallible Aether, Eternal Yokeda, Alkosh, Moondance, Lunar Bastion and those revamped "crap" versions of the above, it kinda makes sense to introduce jewelry improving. You see gear isn't so much of a problem when you're in a trial guild anyway, you get it pretty quick by swapping with your group. You're still gonna do the hard modes because its fun.
All the other jewelry is now purple unless you buy it off the Golden. Which makes sense in a way... But you're giving 250k to a NPC... Isn't that kinda strange? You could be spending that gold on upgrading materials for your brand new gear or your potions for your next trial run. Instead you pretty much chuck it in the trash. So yeah jewelry improvement (and spell crafting) should be a thing. But I don't think jewelry crafting is a very good idea as it will literally lift ALL the restrictions (we don't have many) on gearing and will allow for really abused combos which in turn would lead to our favorite crafting sets getting nerfed.

Like Velidreth, Viper, Black Rose? Or Velidreth, Widowmaker, Viper? Or Malubeth, Reactive and Transmutation and so on? Show me one crafted set, that is a game changer like viper/velidreth/black rose/malubeth? Yeah you can have more spell dmg with julianos, more weap dmg with hundings but is it rly worth it? Answer is simple. No. Ive tried sets that boost your weap or spell dmg but they are no where close to RNG dmg sets or 100% proc sets like viper (and trust me I know what Im talking about, Ive used many setups like old Skirimisher which gives you 400 weap dmg and some weap crit on roll dodge + eternal hunt - it was fun but i felt a bit weak. But when I switched to Viper it was like... "omg how did I just killed him?" diference is terrifying). The only set worth mentioning is Eternal Hunt, but its more tactical set than easy kill set like Viper/Velidreth or "im unkilable" Malubeth. So no. Jewlery crafting wont make much difference as you already have every tool you need to build so called "cancer" build. And guess what? None of this builds includes crafted sets. The only thing that would change after that, would be prices of droped jewlery as you wouldnt be forced to fill up your builds with sets like Willpower or Agillity.

Lightninvash

no because we do not need the ability for jewelry crafting.

cjthibs

Lightninvash wrote: »

no because we do not need the ability for jewelry crafting.

"No, we do not need the ability for jewelry crafting because...?"

You put the because in the wrong place.

Anyron

Yes I really want jewelry upgrade to gold.. It really doesnt make sense why something can be gold and something not...

It is the same like traits on weapons / armor.. ZOS should let us recraft it for trait we want...

Stormshaper

We had a discussion about this last night in one guild. While there was a lot of debate pro & con on crafting jewelry, everyone involved in the discussion felt that at least improving the quality of jewelry was a compromise that seems quite fair for both players and ZOS. I'd be surprised if we don't see at least this much at some point in 2017.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Based on the current game philosophy at ZOS, I don't think this would really help us much.

The current mechanics in the game makes it relatively easy to farm upgrade materials. I feel if the current ZOS team were to add a new upgrade mechanic at this time, they would make it a lot more RNG failure prone and grindy.

Do you really want to farm flyspec for hours to get one jewelry upgrade fragment, that if you combine with 100 more gives you another tier of fragment, that gives you a 10% chance to upgrade a ring?

I don't feel that ZOS would implement jewelry upgrades in a reasonable way at this point. It would be DLC or Crown store locked and really frustrating.


Grinding dolmens that spit out green rings is part of endgame for this ZOS team. Their content is the grind. If you ask for a way to upgrade jewelry, (thereby bypassing the grind,) they will simply add a different system of grind.

The solution to this problem sadly isn't suggesting mechanics, its combating this terrible "RNG is more valuable for our business goals than content" mentality at ZOS. I think they need to be reminded that people still play this game just to play it, and its bugs, exploits, poor performance and poor RNG that drives people away, not actually getting the gear you want so you can actually play.

scorpiodog

radiostar wrote: »

Jewelcrafting was swatted down hard by Z.
But do you want the ability to upgrade dropped jewels like you can upgrade other dropped set items?
Anon, so just vote your conscience

Without Jewelry Crafting Dungeon gear will always be more flexible than crafted gear.

There's really little point in doing research these days. Crafted sets are so underpowered now it's not even funny, then add that there's no jewelry for crafted sets. TBS might be good for some builds for PVE, but there's really virtually zero demand for crafted sets in PvP.

I also Think there should be 3-piece crafted jewelry.

phairdon

Absolutely.

LaiTash

N-nope. You must work your way to the perfect everything. And tbh there isn't much to do but to grind and PvP.