Mages Guild progression, seems endless

Chelister

Hey everyone

Simple Question:

How to level up your mages guild?
I am CP 400 & still my Mage's Guild is at 4

I know reading books is the way to go, but it will take simply ages until I get lvl 10, is it the only way to lvl up the skill tree?

I am also playing at Ps4 console, so we don't get the location & N of lore books

Thx

AzraelKrieg

At the moment for console players, yes, collecting books is the only way. With Update 12 though you can do Mages Guild dailies that will increase it as well

Taleof2Cities

As @AzraelKrieg said, it's a lot easier now.

Besides the dailies, you can go to all the zones now as a non-vet and collect books that way ...

mobicera

Right now yes collecting lore books is the only way to level mages guild skill tree.
As of update 12 there is a daily quest which gives XP to the skill tree but from what I have read each quest gives the same XP as one book.(on console so I can not confirm the XP gained from the daily quest is equal to one book)
It does take a while to collect enough books to get rank 10.
http://teso.mmorpg-life.com/lorebooks-locations-map/
That is a decent site to use for locations, fair warning it does take some time to do probably 1 rank an hour.
Plus side you don't have to do it in one sitting.

Orikz

I am an Orc and am now cp 100 and am now questing in Auridon and lore books are no longer counting or leveling my mages guild at all what's the problem

Kram8ion

Uuuhhhhguhhhh this is taking forever!
I'm doing the dailies and my bar is barely moving
3 books and daily quests has gotten me 1 1/2 levels with exp scroll. (Since1T)
Currently halfway through 9 on console so no adds and hate searching for books but one good thing is done all public
dungeons which I never did before

Code2501

On my main I got to guild level 10 before i hit VR 2. It just requires a keen eye for the blue glowy books and a mind for exploration.

Zach2322

Kram8ion wrote: »

Uuuhhhhguhhhh this is taking forever!
I'm doing the dailies and my bar is barely moving
3 books and daily quests has gotten me 1 1/2 levels with exp scroll. (Since1T)
Currently halfway through 9 on console so no adds and hate searching for books but one good thing is done all public
dungeons which I never did before

Don't wasted xp scrolls on makes guild or fighters guild. The way all the guilds are levels up is with reputation.

Say for example you kill 1 daedra or undead for fighters guild. To level that up you would need to kill X amount of daedric mobs or doing dolmens Mage's guild is based off the books so collecting books and the daily quests gives reputation. Finishing a book collection gives an additional boost of rep. This reputation cannot be sped up period unlike fighters guild where bosses & dolmens which give more reputation than killing a basic daedric mob.

If you truly devote yourself on a day that you can set aside alot of time to the game, collecting the books for mage's guild isn't all that long. It's just tedious and boring as hell.

ericprydz82ub17_ESO

If you have a laptop or PC next to you while you play on console I would suggest using this site: http://esomap.uesp.net/

It gives locations for pmuch everything on the same map so you don't have to bounce between different maps for different things.

Code2501

If your on pc its way easy. You can find ui mods that put pins on your map for the books you have yet to collect.
Its certainly doable without mods but with them it should take no more than a day to hit level 10.

Astanphaeus

Experience scrolls I don't think make a difference with regard to guild experience. Books are fairly easy as you don't need all of them or even most, and if you are a PC player, you can use the Lore Books add-on. Even not using the add-on, I found enough books fairly quickly.

ArchMikem

Chelister wrote: »

Hey everyone

Simple Question:

How to level up your mages guild?
I am CP 400 & still my Mage's Guild is at 4

I know reading books is the way to go, but it will take simply ages until I get lvl 10, is it the only way to lvl up the skill tree?x

Go online, open up the following: http://teso.mmorpg-life.com/lorebooks-locations-map/

Use that map and reference the books you haven't read yet. Go down the list, making sure to complete Collections instead of just getting random books, since completing a collection grants you additional experience. Once you've collected all the lorebooks in your Alliance zones as well as some additional ones in another Alliance, you will get to Mages Guild 10.

Lukums1

It sounds stupid...

But I just run around each map finding them without guides without pictures.

I'm up to 180 with 3 lands yet to explore ... hey I just like running.

Rev Rielle

I know it's seemingly a little late for you, but;

Honestly, if you just explore the zones thoroughly as you're questing through them, you'll get plenty of experience, find almost all the skyshards, completely most of the achievements for that zone (and get any related dyes) and naturally progress your various guild trees along the way.

It's a very good advertisement to play the game in the manner the developers envisaged we would. Do that and you will have basically zero problems. Grinding, powerleveling, etc etc may seem like it's more efficient in the short term, but really in the end we'll find we've wasted our time, when we have to go back to the zones and complete them traditionally anyways for x,y, or z.

alexkdd99

Code2501 wrote: »

If your on pc its way easy. You can find ui mods that put pins on your map for the books you have yet to collect.
Its certainly doable without mods but with them it should take no more than a day to hit level 10.

This is why they need to update their ui for console. We don't have access to all the cool mods. It is a pain getting lore books on console which is why I have only done it on 1 toon.

I even use a laptop sitting next to me but you still have to navigate to each zone then pinpoint exactly where the book is, since some are kind of hidden or not exactly where they show on the website.

Beardimus

Mages guild is so easy to level, it just takes time.

Collect all the blue books, everyone, all 5 starter zones, cold harbour and the Cyro rare ones. Boom L10.

You get bonus XP each time you complete a set, make aure you complete the sets.

lagrue

Chelister wrote: »

know reading books is the way to go, but it will take simply ages until I get lvl 10, is it the only way to lvl up the skill tree?

I am also playing at Ps4 console, so we don't get the location & N of lore books

Thx

I'm on PS4 as well, and I have Mage's Guild at 10 - and have since almost 2 months after launch. I haven't even finished Caldwell Gold yet - so just through natural progression of reading books on the ground, and bookshelves in dungeons, I got there.

This isn't something you really want to sit and grind for. Just go au-naturale and you'll have a much better time. Personally even after getting it to 10, I still check every bookcase and note on the ground - why not, I don't read them, I press X then O to back out.

Actually I'm a little surprised at your CP that you don't have it already - did you only just join Mage's Guild? I'm only CP 225 and I've read 1373 books... you only need about 210 to get full level on Mage's Guild.

Sadly right now books is the way to go. This is a resource that should help you:
http://dulfy.net/2014/02/25/eso-lorebooks-locations-guide/

TreeHugger1

Rev Rielle wrote: »

I know it's seemingly a little late for you, but;

Honestly, if you just explore the zones thoroughly as you're questing through them, you'll get plenty of experience, find almost all the skyshards, completely most of the achievements for that zone (and get any related dyes) and naturally progress your various guild trees along the way.

It's a very good advertisement to play the game in the manner the developers envisaged we would. Do that and you will have basically zero problems. Grinding, powerleveling, etc etc may seem like it's more efficient in the short term, but really in the end we'll find we've wasted our time, when we have to go back to the zones and complete them traditionally anyways for x,y, or z.

If I have 8 chars should I explore each zone 8 times?
Although you are right,the problem is what the devs want,they think we should run all the contents over and over again,they believe their job is also ours.
I don't think people enjoy doing vma hundreds of times,trials,dungeon ....
and yet if you want to get something you have to pass through 7 circles of hell,I don't like to deal with the devil.

Enslaved

Sadly, yes. If you want to level mages guild skill line, you need to do it for every char.

Lolssi

Didn't use cheats and I maxed it some point during third faction.

lardvader

I hated collecting books the first time around and was sure I wouldn't bother with this on the other characters..... now I find it trivial and just collect books while exploring and doing dolmens. I've maxed out Mages Guild on at least 7 characters.

Undaunted is the worst to max out unless you're a healer

Alucardo

mobicera wrote: »

Right now yes collecting lore books is the only way to level mages guild skill tree.
As of update 12 there is a daily quest which gives XP to the skill tree but from what I have read each quest gives the same XP as one book.(on console so I can not confirm the XP gained from the daily quest is equal to one book)
It does take a while to collect enough books to get rank 10.
http://teso.mmorpg-life.com/lorebooks-locations-map/
That is a decent site to use for locations, fair warning it does take some time to do probably 1 rank an hour.
Plus side you don't have to do it in one sitting.

Correct. The quests only give you 5xp, the same as a lorebook. So you essentially spend the time it takes to find 20 lorebooks just to get 1. Doing the dailies just doesn't seem worth it.
You also get additional experience when you find a whole collection of lorebooks, so it's definitely worth hunting them down instead of doing the quests.
I really wish they would make the dailies an actual option of levelling mages guild. Collecting lorebooks sucks, especially when you have to do it on multiple characters.

Niaver

All this collect 400 skyshards and 400 lorebooks for every character is... bad design, to say at least.

Enslaved

381 shards, and not sure how many books you need to get to MG10.

quadraxis666

I feel the OP's pain. I recently (during the skeleton xp boost event) finished grinding a DC sorc to 50 and was immediately hit with the realization that the grind just isn't over at level cap, there's all the skyshards/lorebooks/ledgerdemain grind which is essential to making a new toon.

I'm at mages guild lvl 6 now but it feels like it will never end. I know it can be done quite quickly if you just suck it up and get it done but I already have an AD sorc, DC magDK, DC stamNB (for the empower), EP magDK, and for whatever reason my main (a stamDK) has it too, but he's my main he has EVERYTHING - even all quests in all zones - so to be doing the lorebook grind yet again is absolutely soul crushing.

I will never ever EVER make another magicka toon.
Probably.

Maybe.

I probably will though.

STEVIL

Technically, as soon ss you stop collecting lore books or running mage dailies, progression in mage guild ends.

altemriel

yes, on PC you have skyshards addon, or Destinations or similar ones, where it shows you the skyshards on the map, so you just go collect them, not so hard to find them usually.
On console, use the internet link mentioned above if you like.

Aurielle

lagrue wrote: »

Sadly right now books is the way to go. This is a resource that should help you:
http://dulfy.net/2014/02/25/eso-lorebooks-locations-guide/

That's an awesome resource. I like the maps on TES Life as well (what I use).

I started playing ESO on PS4 about two weeks ago after playing the game for close on seven months on my POS laptop... I'd become VERY reliant on addons during that time, so the lack of addons took a bit of getting used to, but I have a system now: when I get to a new region, I don't immediately start off doing quests. I go to one corner of the map, pull up a skyshards map on my tablet, and work my way across the map from one end to the other (making use of custom location pins to provide some guidance -- never bothered with that on PC, but I appreciate the feature now). If I see any lorebooks on the way, I'll read them obviously -- I don't make it the priority, though. I also pick up crafting mats along the way, from skyshard to skyshard. Then, when I've collected all skyshards, I pull up a lorebook map and track backwards across the map to where I originally started, reading any lorebooks I may have missed along the way (and picking up mats as well). Only then do I start questing, knowing that I've picked up everything I need to pick up for the entire region (plus a ton of crafting mats). It's a pretty efficient system that not only minimizes your exploration time, but also provides you with a steady source of resources to use/sell.

OP: always remember that there are multiple instances of the same lorebook. You only have to read one: you won't get credit for reading the same book multiple times. I really like TES Life's lorebook maps for that reason (e.g. see http://teso.mmorpg-life.com/stonefalls-lorebooks/), because you can hover over the books to see the titles. There's no point in travelling to every single individual lorebook on the map. Focus on the titles.

Enodoc

Enslaved wrote: »

381 shards, and not sure how many books you need to get to MG10.

200, give or take.

Aletheion

Orikz wrote: »

I am an Orc and am now cp 100 and am now questing in Auridon and lore books are no longer counting or leveling my mages guild at all what's the problem

@Orikz if you haven't figured it out yet, not all lorebooks level the mage guild line. Only specific ones do which is why the addon is so helpful.

If you don't have the PC version or don't want to use the addon, if I recall, they have a different purple smoky glow that other lorebooks don't have to differentiate them as mage guild books.

-Aletheion

Prof_Bawbag

Whilst i have maxed out the mages line on 2 characters, I really wish levelling it up was as natural as every other guild line is. Even if you're a lore buff of the highest order, I don't see why anyone would want to go trawling the length and breadth of every zone map until they get it to 10. At least the FG involves doing things many of us find fun, killing things and clearing dolmens.