No new vet dungeon stories?? Or Bosses??

Mutagem · October 2016

I was excited to hear they were adding vet dungeons....but super dissapointed to see how they were just "harder" versions of the normal ones....I liked watching how the story of Crypt of Hearts became different after into vet mode, same with Banished Cells, Elden Hollow, Wayrest Sewers etc.

why would you do that ZOS? It just strikes me as pure laziness, Is that how you want to leave the legacy of ESO? Come on....

vyndral13preub18_ESO · October 2016

Mutagem wrote: »

I was excited to hear they were adding vet dungeons....but super dissapointed to see how they were just "harder" versions of the normal ones....I liked watching how the story of Crypt of Hearts became different after into vet mode, same with Banished Cells, Elden Hollow, Wayrest Sewers etc.

why would you do that ZOS? It just strikes me as pure laziness, Is that how you want to leave the legacy of ESO? Come on....

New stuff cost time and money.

Rescaling old stuff? Less time. Less money.

Im sure if we all just bought more stuff in the crown store we would have everything we want. So really it is just our own faults. If we had just knocked over a bank or two to buy crown consumables we would have new dungeons.

Mutagem · October 2016

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

Mutagem wrote: »

I was excited to hear they were adding vet dungeons....but super dissapointed to see how they were just "harder" versions of the normal ones....I liked watching how the story of Crypt of Hearts became different after into vet mode, same with Banished Cells, Elden Hollow, Wayrest Sewers etc.

why would you do that ZOS? It just strikes me as pure laziness, Is that how you want to leave the legacy of ESO? Come on....

New stuff cost time and money.

Rescaling old stuff? Less time. Less money.

Im sure if we all just bought more stuff in the crown store we would have everything we want. So really it is just our own faults. If we had just knocked over a bank or two to buy crown consumables we would have new dungeons.

Your sarcasm is sad but true. You know i'm right with that leaving a "lazy" legacy

old_mufasa · October 2016

Actuality I bet there was more work on the programing side of things for this update then most other updates.. There had to be a good amount of time and money invested programing the backend of this update.. as they changed and adjusted every zone, redid loot tables, added vet dungeons to regular ones, removing faction walls, dueling and making sure the servers could adapt to have all the factions now phasing into the same zone.. a lot of backend programing for sure...

DeadlyRecluse · October 2016

They still *could* finish those dungeons in the future. If this update proves anything, it's that not every major update will necessarily be a DLC-focused one.

Qyrk · October 2016

Not on this update. If you saw recent videos from PAX and eso live, this is not their priority this update. There will be added dungeons in the future (New or continuation of current dungeon storyline). Just because it's not implemented in this update doesn't mean it will never be implemented.

Mutagem · October 2016

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

They still *could* finish those dungeons in the future. If this update proves anything, it's that not every major update will necessarily be a DLC-focused one.

See, I'd buy that if they didn't do the exact same thing with shadows of the hist...which they did

Qyrk wrote: »

Not on this update. If you saw recent videos from PAX and eso live, this is not their priority this update. There will be added dungeons in the future (New or continuation of current dungeon storyline). Just because it's not implemented in this update doesn't mean it will never be implemented.

So basically it's a "maybe" but nothing actually confirmed...

DeadlyRecluse · October 2016

Mutagem wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

They still *could* finish those dungeons in the future. If this update proves anything, it's that not every major update will necessarily be a DLC-focused one.

See, I'd buy that if they didn't do the exact same thing with shadows of the hist...which they did

Qyrk wrote: »

Not on this update. If you saw recent videos from PAX and eso live, this is not their priority this update. There will be added dungeons in the future (New or continuation of current dungeon storyline). Just because it's not implemented in this update doesn't mean it will never be implemented.

So basically it's a "maybe" but nothing actually confirmed...

As I understand it (could be wrong, this is mostly hearsay), some of the continuation storyline dungeons were already in development and partially done--but were put on the backburner with console development and the B2P transition (which necessitated a shift to a DLC model).

I still have hopes they will be released, but I wouldn't count on it in the near future, as they don't fit into a DLC-centric development model very well, being part of the base game. My point was more just that this is the first really major update we've had in a while that didn't involve a DLC and added a ton of value to the base game--which indicates that hopefully we will continue to get occasional updates that refresh the main zones/base game. An update that released the second half of the unfinished dungeons would certainly be that!

Mutagem · October 2016

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

Mutagem wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

They still *could* finish those dungeons in the future. If this update proves anything, it's that not every major update will necessarily be a DLC-focused one.

See, I'd buy that if they didn't do the exact same thing with shadows of the hist...which they did

Qyrk wrote: »

Not on this update. If you saw recent videos from PAX and eso live, this is not their priority this update. There will be added dungeons in the future (New or continuation of current dungeon storyline). Just because it's not implemented in this update doesn't mean it will never be implemented.

So basically it's a "maybe" but nothing actually confirmed...

As I understand it (could be wrong, this is mostly hearsay), some of the continuation storyline dungeons were already in development and partially done--but were put on the backburner with console development and the B2P transition (which necessitated a shift to a DLC model).

I still have hopes they will be released, but I wouldn't count on it in the near future, as they don't fit into a DLC-centric development model very well, being part of the base game. My point was more just that this is the first really major update we've had in a while that didn't involve a DLC and added a ton of value to the base game--which indicates that hopefully we will continue to get occasional updates that refresh the main zones/base game. An update that released the second half of the unfinished dungeons would certainly be that!

Thanks for that I had no idea. Good insight and points of view friend!

AzraelKrieg · October 2016

It's a certainty that new dungeons will be added simply because at PAX they joked around numerous times about @ZOS_Finn still having a job

SublimeSparo · October 2016

Do ESO+ subscribers get double free crowns till the next dlc as we didn't get a dlc this quarter?

AzraelKrieg · October 2016

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Do ESO+ subscribers get double free crowns till the next dlc as we didn't get a dlc this quarter?

Nope. And as an ESO+ sub I wouldn't want that.

SublimeSparo · October 2016

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Do ESO+ subscribers get double free crowns till the next dlc as we didn't get a dlc this quarter?

Nope. And as an ESO+ sub I wouldn't want that.

Why not? I'm an ESO+ subscriber, I'm sure i remember them saying we would get new content quarterly and that is one of my main reasons for subscribing.

AzraelKrieg · October 2016

For most Craglorn is new content because of how hard it was to find groups to do it. Bit of a cop out but making the game more accessible to everyone needed to happen. Really adjusting the current systems means that the teams in charge of making and developing new content can refine it a bit more which I really don't mind at all.

SublimeSparo · October 2016

Only done craglorn about 4 or 5 times already, and i'm pretty antisocial lol and that was before console had text chat. Mind you nirnhoned was actually worth getting back then