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Does slotting an armour skill give exp for that skill line on top of the exp for wearing the armour?

Snootking
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Simple question need a simple answer please :)
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  • kuro-dono
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    yes. the skill line levels up faster, not much, but it does.
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  • Asardes
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    Yes, slotting active skills, including ultimates will advance the skill line faster. It even says that in the tool tip if I'm not mistaken. That's why I thought I misunderstood your question. Weapon and armor skills increase with even with no skills slotted though. For example I level 2W on all my magicka characters, but don't invest a single point in active skills, just the twin blade and blunt passive when the skill is at 50.
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  • kylewwefan
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    The experience you get progresses the skill line that is slotted when experience is awarded if your on that bar. If that makes sense.

    Armor progression for passives is determined by how many pieces of armor type and traits (training).
  • Asardes
    Asardes
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    kylewwefan wrote: »
    Armor progression for passives is determined by how many pieces of armor type and traits (training).

    Training now affects only the XP you get from kills, and does not work anymore as a multiplier for all XP gain for the advancement of the specific skill line. This was changed back when the traits were overhauled, probably at DB launch.
    Before that having a training destruction staff only made the destruction staff skill line and skill increase faster with all gained XP. Currently a weapon or piece of armor with training trait increases the XP gain from kills by x%, where x increases in as function of the quality of the items - x the multiplier will be higher for a purple item than a green one. That XP then applies to all your active armor skills as well as skill lines and skills you have slotted on your bar.

    However I have noticed that in practice not all armor pieces are equal when calculating XP gain for that armor type skill line. I level all my chars using the 5/1/1 setup, meaning I uses 5 medium for stamina builds, and 5 light for the magicka ones, with the remaining 2 pieces from other armor types, to level all for endgame and use the passives once I have unlocked sufficient skill points. The chest is always heavy and the waist always light, and either legs or feet medium. The other 4 pieces are the main armor type. What I've noticed in practice that the main armor type levels much faster, because you have always 5 pieces equipped and you have a higher multiplier for received XP, but in addition to that heavy armor levels faster than the other armor skill, despite the fact that both have only one piece.

    This led me to the conclusion that different armor pieces have different XP gain multipliers, with chest being the highest. Probably it's proportional to the relative armor rating of that piece, though not in a linear fashion. You can see that by crafting all 7 pieces of the same armor type, same level and quality and see how high that rating is, relative to other pieces.

    For example level 14 white medium armor has the following stats:
    Chest: 356 | Legs: 311 | Head 311 | Shoulders 311 | Feet 311 | Hands 178 | Waist 133
    So chest contributes the most to your armor, then head, shoulders, feet, legs equally, then hands and waist contributes the least. Normalizing the ratings above by the highest we have to see the relative values:
    Chest: 1.00 | Legs: 0.88 | Head 0.88 | Shoulders 0.88 | Feet 0.88 | Hands 0.50 | Waist 0.38

    In practice light armor trails more behind heavy on my 5 x medium armor stamina characters, than medium trails behind heavy on my 5 x light armor magicka characters.
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    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
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  • Snootking
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    Thanks for the comments but neither of you answered my question. I am talking about if i slot an active armor skill such as annulment for light armor will this also train my light armor skill line up quicker?
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  • kuro-dono
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    need to remember> alliance war abilities + undaunted and mage guild wont progress their skil lines. and ofc soulmagic, not sure about the others?
  • Asardes
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    Because those skill lines don't advance by XP gained, but reputation with the respective faction:
    - Alliance War by gaining AP
    - Mages Guild by collecting books (and lately daily missions)
    - Fighters Guild by killing daedra/undead/werewolves and clearing dolmens (and lately daily missions involving the latter)
    - Undaunted by completing pledges and dungeon achievement (speed run, no death run, kill X mobs)
    - Ledgermain by breaking locks, trespassing, selling or laundering stolen items
    - Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild by doing various missions
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    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
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    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
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