Tenth armor trait?

BruceLeeroy91

Should there be a tenth crafting trait and new crafted sets requiring ten traits to create?

BruceLeeroy91

Yes

I would like to see the addition of another research trait and some new sets that would hopefully be a little more powerful and on par with the current endgame gear.

White wabbit

Not sure about 10th trait but there should be more crafting if some description

sigsergv

No

No. And not because of research times. It will dilute loot tables with more junk.

Qbiken

No

Yeah, because waiting another 27-30 days to craft 10 trait sets is appealing....

Mashille

Yes

Yes. And 10 Trait Craftable Sets to make Crafting special again as most people have 9 traits at this point. Having a few 10 Trait sets could make good Crafters desirable

Master_Fluff

No

No tenth trait, please. It takes too long to get the 9th allready.

White wabbit

Mashille wrote: »

Yes. And 10 Trait Craftable Sets to make Crafting special again as most people have 9 traits at this point. Having a few 10 Trait sets could make good Crafters desirable

What's a good crater then ! Someone that crafts it for free ? As I've never charged anyone

Moltyr

Other? - Please explain.

Absolutely NOT. Fix and balance the traits we have. The majority of them are USELESS. Adding new traits is the last thing we need. Along with new content. FIX what we have...then move on.

Mashille

Yes

@White wabbit

By 'Good' I just someone who has all 10 Traits for the Items someone needs them for. As I feel it's good for someone to seek out a Master Crafter who will be able to make them the set they desire.

Also, never charging someone for crafted Armour is a bit silly. It takes 100's of Materials to make VR16 Gear meaning you are at a massive loss if you craft for free.

BruceLeeroy91

Yes

Moltyr wrote: »

Absolutely NOT. Fix and balance the traits we have. The majority of them are USELESS. Adding new traits is the last thing we need. Along with new content. FIX what we have...then move on.

This I can understand.

The complaints about the research times, I don't think the 9th trait right now is too long at all. And I would like to see a tenth trait take time, even if it is past the 30 day mark we have right now. Like was mentioned already, a ten trait crafter, or a collaboration of crafters that could make that set the first day available (after finishing research) would make them desirable again and crafted gear worth the trouble (farming mats/motifs/traits).

White wabbit

Mashille wrote: »

@White wabbit

By 'Good' I just someone who has all 10 Traits for the Items someone needs them for. As I feel it's good for someone to seek out a Master Crafter who will be able to make them the set they desire.

Also, never charging someone for crafted Armour is a bit silly. It takes 100's of Materials to make VR16 Gear meaning you are at a massive loss if you craft for free.

Only meant as in I don't charge on top , of course I expect them to supply the mats

lillybit

No

No. Absolutely not.
I spent a year getting all the existing research done, with all those wasted skillpoints on the research passives. Now I've finally got them back and it's made a world of difference to my crafter. If they introduced another trait it'd force me to respec again to put them back, probably another year to get all my research done again (given that the 10th trait would probably be ultra rare and expensive. I only managed nirnhoned after the prices came down when it was introduced to loot tables) and then another respec when it's finally all done to make it playable again.
I suffered through months with a useless templar, now it's actually a class worth playing I don't want to be crippled again!

psychotic13

Yes

I've voted yes, but really it depends on what the trait would be, I'm ok with the research times.

It really comes down to, would the trait be good enough and not more junk like prosperous to further dilute the wanted loot, and how useful would the 10 trait sets be.

Deanationables

Yes

I'm sure we'll see more naturally. As for right now? I'm in no real rush to see more.

Bunneh

No

@Mashille :

I think you will find he means he doesn't charge for the service. He expects the client to provide the materials though.

Gargath

No

Yes only if it means craftable jewellery, otherwise - no.

BruceLeeroy91

Yes

psychotic13 wrote: »

I've voted yes, but really it depends on what the trait would be, I'm ok with the research times.

It really comes down to, would the trait be good enough and not more junk like prosperous to further dilute the wanted loot, and how useful would the 10 trait sets be.

I agree 100%.

I do not think the research times are to long at all. I started playing day one console and didn't understand crafting at first, so I avoided it and I regret it still. However I am now 9 trait on all armor and wood and about half way thru weapons.

I think the time to research is part of the appeal and completely adds to the rarity and desire for some new (be it not crap) difficult to craft sets.

Lord_Wrath

Other? - Please explain.

I believe more will be implemented into the crafting system eventually anyway, reason being because we have yet to see a title and achievement for master crafter.

ookami007

Yes

Yes, and the 10the trait should allow crafters to craft Maelstrom weapons Crafting... FTW!

Tyrion87

No

I don't believe the possible 10th trait would be better than Divines so NO, I don't want to grind for end game gear with perfect trait even more.

lolo_01b16_ESO

Other? - Please explain.

At the current state I don't want to have an additional trait. It's annoying enough to get some items with a desirable trait. But if they add a way to recraft traits and have an idea to make 10+ usefull traits then I'd be happy to research some more items.

CombatPrayer

If they do a tenth, I hope it is something amazing because timers are pretty tedious now once you get to those last two on each piece. I forget about mine then have to go hunt down something in my guilds when it pops because it's in that 3 weeks to a month range.

I'm still trying to figure out why my toon has a reverse learning curve. Nowhere in the world except games does stuff that you are learning (that is the exact same as before) take you more time. If each Item researched somehow gave a bonus to the piece that would be logical or those last two - not sets but because you researched x amount on each piece anything you crafted in that piece got a little buff of it's own, I could see that, but here it is exactly the same thing you are doing over and over and it is taking you longer and longer to do it. It's like your toon looses IQ points from doing research. LOL Honestly armor buffs for many items researched on each piece would be cool. Would make that research time make a little more sense. Not big buffs, but something to make it seem sensible why I am taking longer to do a task I have done repeatedly for how many times now.

JaJaLuka

No

Holy *** no!

AmberLaTerra

No

No, you know if they add a 10th trait it will be something bad like bringing exploration back or something just as horrible that would have an insanely high drop rate.

dsalter

Yes

sigsergv wrote: »

No. And not because of research times. It will dilute loot tables with more junk.

you make it sound like it could never be useful.

a new trait that reduces the duration of character loss of control (stuns, slows, roots, etc) by like 2-3% per armor piece would be welcome in my opinion.

Silver_Strider

No

No.
Between actually finding the new trait for all items as well as the long research time, not to mention the abundance of useless traits in the game already, I just couldn't take them adding a 10th trait.

Loot tables are diluted enough as is with Prosperous and Training crap that unless this new trait is a godsend, it won't be worth it to research as everyone will stick to divines anyway and unless they introduce a ridiculously OP 10 trait crafting set, I don't see anyone bothering to research it.

I'd prefer if they just rebalanced the traits so that they majority aren't completely useless. I'd like them to revert the change for Nirnhoned on Weapons so magic builds would be in a better spot (and because I already have a Nirnhoned Maelstrom Inferno staff )

Slurg

No

No, because there'd surely be some ridiculous mechanism to acquire it, or we'd have to buy the trait material in the crown store, and it probably wouldn't even be that good of a trait.

Based on what I've seen lately, anything is possible by the time they get around to adding a tenth trait and I doubt it would be a good thing. I'm sure it'll happen at some point, but I'm not looking forward to it.

Soundwave

Yes

But the traits has to make craft worth something again. Maybe 10th trait could be a way to add 2 traits to your crafting gear and weapons.

Robbmrp

Other? - Please explain.

We have enough traits for weapons and armor. They need to tweak the ones we have more than adding in a new one. They've made some great changes by adding Block to Sturdy. There are some more traits that people generally don't use that need some love.

Dramonicous

Other? - Please explain.

Other

Lower trait requirement on all sets or drastically reduce the amount of time spent on research (roughly to 1/10 of current)