Red Diamond

seebra

Red Diamond (Your melee attacks have a 10% chance to restore 6% or your Max Health.)
What is your opinion about Red Diamond and should they buff it?
IMO it is bad and they should buff it, because proc chance is so low.

DHale

It's practically useless so don't rely on it.

Mic1007

I never rely on that mini-heal. I just use Vigor instead.

I_killed_Vivec

It's not just that the proc chance is low, it's that when it does proc you might not need it and when you really do need it healing for 6% isn't going to do that much good!

Alucardo

Wish it would proc when you took damage (with a cooldown, of course). That way it's a little more useful for everyone, even magicka classes who are Imperials. It would proc a lot more often if it was on damage also, hence the need for a cooldown.
I generally get 1900-2k heals from it in PVP, so it's a decent little heal when it does decide to work.

Wollust

It's bad, it's even worse in Cyrodiil because of the battle spirit debuff.

It used to be pretty good when it would proc from caltrops and stuff back in the day.

magnusthorek

I was thinking you would complain about the, unless I'm terrible unlucky when hearing, only song in Tamriel XD

Asardes

And in most cases, even as tank, I don't die from the lack of health, but for lack of stamina for blocking, rolling from danger zone (including roll dodging huge hits), and of course vigor healing. A passive that would restore stamina and be a guaranteed proc and one that would actually regenerate stamina faster would be way better ... just pick the Redguard

Bashev

Alucardo wrote: »

Wish it would proc when you took damage (with a cooldown, of course). That way it's a little more useful for everyone, even magicka classes who are Imperials. It would proc a lot more often if it was on damage also, hence the need for a cooldown.
I generally get 1900-2k heals from it in PVP, so it's a decent little heal when it does decide to work.

Lol, how much health do you have? 45k+? It was only useful when it proced on caltrops back in the days.

Mic1007

2k heals. That would be 4k heals out of Cyrodiil, which means around 66k health if I calculated that correctly.

Alucardo

Bashev wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Wish it would proc when you took damage (with a cooldown, of course). That way it's a little more useful for everyone, even magicka classes who are Imperials. It would proc a lot more often if it was on damage also, hence the need for a cooldown.
I generally get 1900-2k heals from it in PVP, so it's a decent little heal when it does decide to work.

Lol, how much health do you have? 45k+? It was only useful when it proced on caltrops back in the days.

~55k xD

At the very least they could remove the battle spirit buff from it. If you're not stacking health I imagine this passive is utterly useless.
If you have, say, 22k health (which is around the norm) you're probably looking at a 600-660 heal (in pvp). This is based on a 10% chance with melee attacks. Considering the amount of damage people are taking these days that's nothing. I get higher rally ticks than that passive gives.
Every other class has pretty useful special passives. Well, Breton's 3% magicka cost reduction could use a buff too tbh.

Asardes

Even a 2K reliable heal is useless in any case, when you are burst with 6K spamables.
And in PvE redguard has way better passives as DD and Nord as Tank. I didn't even bother to buy Imperial edition, since the later's racial passive buff in 2.5. I just run ingenous shield+rally+vigor on my "thick skinned imperial" DK and that seems to be enough

Alucardo

Remember when people were complaining that Imperial's were OP and p2w? I still laugh at that one.

Asardes

Redguard is P2W too, if you don like to play as DC

olsborg

Its rather useless for pve, just imagine how useless it is in pvp, its value is halved.

seebra

nice to see you guys / ladies thoughts.
Let's hope they are going to rework this passive in upcoming patches.

Alucardo

#NerfRedDiamond

dodgehopper_ESO

#makereddiamondgreatagain

UltimaJoe777

It's as good as it's gonna get for being a Racial Passive. I don't rely on it either, but it is handy at times.

Alucardo

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

It's as good as it's gonna get for being a Racial Passive. I don't rely on it either, but it is handy at times.

Are you talking about the same Red Diamond we are?

UltimaJoe777

Alucardo wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

It's as good as it's gonna get for being a Racial Passive. I don't rely on it either, but it is handy at times.

Are you talking about the same Red Diamond we are?

Yes, yes I am. My Imperial also happens to be my pure health build tank.

Alucardo

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

It's as good as it's gonna get for being a Racial Passive. I don't rely on it either, but it is handy at times.

Are you talking about the same Red Diamond we are?

Yes, yes I am. My Imperial also happens to be my pure health build tank.

It's extremely lackluster if you're under 50k health, procs infrequently and is halved in PVP. This passive could definitely use some love when you compare it to other useful racial passives.

tnanever

Alucardo wrote: »

Wish it would proc when you took damage (with a cooldown, of course). That way it's a little more useful for everyone, even magicka classes who are Imperials. It would proc a lot more often if it was on damage also, hence the need for a cooldown.
I generally get 1900-2k heals from it in PVP, so it's a decent little heal when it does decide to work.

This would be a quick and easy change. I'd rather have something fit better thematically, but this works too.

WalksonGraves

Argonian passives are way more useful than Imperial for tanking.10% chance of 2.5-3k heals vs 5% taken/5% done and all stats and ult from every potion.

RAGUNAnoOne

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Argonian passives are way more useful than Imperial for tanking.10% chance of 2.5-3k heals vs 5% taken/5% done and all stats and ult from every potion.

Argonians don't gain ult but they should lorewise Argonians are the strongest race out of the 10.