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Does entropy empower meteor?

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devilsTear
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Or does it overwrite itself and meteor empowers your next attack?
  • CasNation
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    Last I heard it overwrites itself. Haven't tested recently though. Pretty easy to test yourself though.
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  • devilsTear
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    CasNation wrote: »
    Last I heard it overwrites itself. Haven't tested recently though. Pretty easy to test yourself though.

    I would but I'm not at my machine and won't be for a while :tongue:
  • Foxic
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    You cannot empower mages guild abilities
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    TotallyNotVos wrote: »
    You cannot empower mages guild abilities

    Really? They should put that in the tool tip then, I think a lot of people think it does, that's why I asked :smiley:
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    devilsTear wrote: »
    TotallyNotVos wrote: »
    You cannot empower mages guild abilities

    Really? They should put that in the tool tip then, I think a lot of people think it does, that's why I asked :smiley:

    It may be because like the previous comments said, the empower gets overwritten.

    But empower is strange AFAIK it won't empower ground cast abilities like daedric mines or the first tick of ground dots
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  • DannyLV702
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    Answer is no
  • bubbygink
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    TotallyNotVos wrote: »
    You cannot empower mages guild abilities

    Is that you cannot empower mages guild abilities with other mages guild abilities or that you just cannot empower mages guild abilities in general?

    For example, if a stamblade uses ambush and then follows it up with a meteor will the ambush empower the meteor? Or will that get overridden too?
  • ku5h
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    The question is, does Meteor empowers itself? When you can a Meteor you should get Empower buff which should be consumed on impact if you havent do any tipe of dmg in that time period. Im not sure about that, but it should work that way, shouldn't it?

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    devilsTear wrote: »
    TotallyNotVos wrote: »
    You cannot empower mages guild abilities

    Really? They should put that in the tool tip then, I think a lot of people think it does, that's why I asked :smiley:

    I think most hit entropy/mage light before a meteor for might of guild passive.
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    Unsent.Soul wrote: »
    devilsTear wrote: »
    TotallyNotVos wrote: »
    You cannot empower mages guild abilities

    Really? They should put that in the tool tip then, I think a lot of people think it does, that's why I asked :smiley:

    I think most hit entropy/mage light before a meteor for might of guild passive.

    Alot of people do that yes. But they're all wasting their time.
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  • Hookgrin
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    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/290855/dots-ultimates-bar-swapping-my-findings/p1

    Second paragraph under the section "Single Target DoTs" lists everything that cannot be empowered, which includes Meteor.
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    TotallyNotVos wrote: »
    Unsent.Soul wrote: »
    devilsTear wrote: »
    TotallyNotVos wrote: »
    You cannot empower mages guild abilities

    Really? They should put that in the tool tip then, I think a lot of people think it does, that's why I asked :smiley:

    I think most hit entropy/mage light before a meteor for might of guild passive.

    Alot of people do that yes. But they're all wasting their time.

    Okay, just read the tool tip(just got online) for might of guild... for some reason I assumed it wasn't worded as "empower" and that blows my mind. All those times I forgot to cast inner then meteor and then being mad at myself for losing out on damage.

    So as it stands, no mage guild ability grants the bonus damage given by empower to another mage guild ability?
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  • Vaoh
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    Yes. The answer is yes.

    Empower buffs the damage of the next Direct Damage attack you do (but not the DoT).

    Entropy grants Empower.

    Although Meteor grants Empower, it cannot expend its Empower on itself, meaning you need to get Empower another way before casting Meteor.

    As an example, let's say you are a Nightblade. If you cast Entropy, drop a Meteor, and then wait for Meteor to strike before casting Veiled Strike, both attacks will be Empowered.
  • devilsTear
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    I'm a magDK so I'll just use chains and meteor? Lol watch out scorpion xD
  • Vaoh
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    Test it for yourselves people! Easy to test :)
  • Izaki
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Yes. The answer is yes.

    Empower buffs the damage of the next Direct Damage attack you do (but not the DoT).

    Entropy grants Empower.

    Although Meteor grants Empower, it cannot expend its Empower on itself, meaning you need to get Empower another way before casting Meteor.

    As an example, let's say you are a Nightblade. If you cast Entropy, drop a Meteor, and then wait for Meteor to strike before casting Veiled Strike, both attacks will be Empowered.

    You can Empower Mages Guild abilities but not with other Mages Guild abilities. So you can't Empower Meteor with say Inner Light. I see a lot of people doing that but its losing DPS.
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  • Kammakazi
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    No, the answer is NO
  • Izaki
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    No, the answer is NO

    Or I guess you could put it ^^^this way...
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  • fred4
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    Last I checked my tooltips after having cast a mage's guild ability, you cannot actually empower any ultimates.
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    fred4 wrote: »
    Last I checked my tooltips after having cast a mage's guild ability, you cannot actually empower any ultimates.

    You can empower Dawnbreaker, Soul Tether, Incapacitating Strike/Soul Harvest and the new 2H ultimate.
  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    For me it doesn't. But, if my addon doesn't glitch on this one, it keeps giving me continually empowered for the first 2 seconds or so if the enemy is standing in the DoT it leaves.
  • fred4
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    Well, the thing which confuses me, when I cast Magelight the tooltip for Concealed Weapon, for example, changes for 5 seconds to show the higher damage. The tooltips for any of my ultimates, including the ones you mention, do not. I haven't tested with FTC yet. I presume what you're saying, then, is that the tooltips are not accurate and the Empower actually works on those ultimates?
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  • Asayre
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    Meteor self empowers. The empower only affects the initial hit.

    Without Might of the Guild, Ice Comet does 2901 on hit and DoTs tick for 840. Light attack damage before and after is 584.
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    With Might of the Guild, Ice Comet does 3469 on hit and DoTs tick for 840. Light attack damage before and after is 584. Thus Ice Comet empowers itself.
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    If I were instead to use a Mages' Guild ability before Ice Comet like Equilibrium to gain the Empower beforehand, Ice Comet still does 3469 on hit and DoT ticks of 840. Light attack damage before Equilibrium and after Ice Comet is 584.
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    This is a copy paste from another comment on the 29th of June 2016. Testing was done in the SoTH PTS.

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  • Lord_Hev
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    Yes it does.
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  • Asardes
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    You can test with Entropy since it's cheap and also has a DoT see how much damage it does on the 1st tick then on the 2nd (which won't be empowered in any case), then recast it again within empower ~5s window and see how much it ticks the 1st time. And then test with other abilities.
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