Cloak been broken for months

Glamdring

Is there any fix for this comming up? I use it only for offense theese days to get the crit in. For defense, getting away its totally useless since they reworked it a couple months ago. You get constantly taken out of cloak and attacks geting though cloak aswell. If I fight another nb i can ambush him even if he cloaks. So, ZoS u working on fixing this?

altemriel

Glamdring wrote: »

Is there any fix for this comming up? I use it only for offense theese days to get the crit in. For defense, getting away its totally useless since they reworked it a couple months ago. You get constantly taken out of cloak and attacks geting though cloak aswell. If I fight another nb i can ambush him even if he cloaks. So, ZoS u working on fixing this?

wait, could you elaborate more on the cloak being broken? I recently rolled a mag NB and I would like to know more...

Swainburg

People are also a lot better at trying to pull nightblades out of stealth. Also, DoTs are very good at pulling, which is popular now.

In my humble opinion, I think its broken that nightblades get to use stealth so easily anyway.

Plenty of nightblades can escape me anyway with it

Berenhir

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/275283/the-unofficial-cloak-thread/p1

But cloak is completely useless as a defensive ability anyway as everybody and their mother seems to be running detection pots or hurricane. It is not meant to work as a defensive ability in a melee fight anymore. Look at the defensive morph, which gives minor protection after you get pulled out of cloak.

Cloak is only good to suppress siege DoTs and break radiant beams or make your DoTs and HoTs crit.

Often the server lag makes you think you have cloaked already, as you get the animation and the "hidden" message on your screen but your opponent has fired his shot when on his client you were still visible (about 0.5-1 sec delay is normal, even if ping rating says otherwise). This results in an update of your client, pulling you out of cloak when for your opponent (and the server) you never cloaked in the first place.

Use the light armor shield. Healing Ward is also broken and doesn't work reliable, so you might want to combine it with blessing of restoration instead, as you can't use mutagen when others are around due to the mutagen targeting bug.

Well after writing all that down you might just skip magblade in PvP as a whole. It surely is the squishiest class of them all when played as a DD and most of its core mechanics are broken, bugged or have been nerfed into the ground.

Zaldan

Glamdring wrote: »

Is there any fix for this comming up? I use it only for offense theese days to get the crit in. For defense, getting away its totally useless since they reworked it a couple months ago. You get constantly taken out of cloak and attacks geting though cloak aswell. If I fight another nb i can ambush him even if he cloaks. So, ZoS u working on fixing this?

right after they fix templar gap closers

altemriel

Berenhir wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/275283/the-unofficial-cloak-thread/p1

But cloak is completely useless as a defensive ability anyway as everybody and their mother seems to be running detection pots or hurricane. It is not meant to work as a defensive ability in a melee fight anymore. Look at the defensive morph, which gives minor protection after you get pulled out of cloak.

Cloak is only good to suppress siege DoTs and break radiant beams or make your DoTs and HoTs crit.

Often the server lag makes you think you have cloaked already, as you get the animation and the "hidden" message on your screen but your opponent has fired his shot when on his client you were still visible (about 0.5-1 sec delay is normal, even if ping rating says otherwise). This results in an update of your client, pulling you out of cloak when for your opponent (and the server) you never cloaked in the first place.

Use the light armor shield. Healing Ward is also broken and doesn't work reliable, so you might want to combine it with blessing of restoration instead, as you can't use mutagen when others are around due to the mutagen targeting bug.

Well after writing all that down you might just skip magblade in PvP as a whole. It surely is the squishiest class of them all when played as a DD and most of its core mechanics are broken, bugged or have been nerfed into the ground.

well depends on who you meet, cloak on my NB saved my life many times

Berenhir

altemriel wrote: »

Berenhir wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/275283/the-unofficial-cloak-thread/p1

But cloak is completely useless as a defensive ability anyway as everybody and their mother seems to be running detection pots or hurricane. It is not meant to work as a defensive ability in a melee fight anymore. Look at the defensive morph, which gives minor protection after you get pulled out of cloak.

Cloak is only good to suppress siege DoTs and break radiant beams or make your DoTs and HoTs crit.

Often the server lag makes you think you have cloaked already, as you get the animation and the "hidden" message on your screen but your opponent has fired his shot when on his client you were still visible (about 0.5-1 sec delay is normal, even if ping rating says otherwise). This results in an update of your client, pulling you out of cloak when for your opponent (and the server) you never cloaked in the first place.

Use the light armor shield. Healing Ward is also broken and doesn't work reliable, so you might want to combine it with blessing of restoration instead, as you can't use mutagen when others are around due to the mutagen targeting bug.

Well after writing all that down you might just skip magblade in PvP as a whole. It surely is the squishiest class of them all when played as a DD and most of its core mechanics are broken, bugged or have been nerfed into the ground.

well depends on who you meet, cloak on my NB saved my life many times

Yeah, well, that's what it is supposed to do when it works.

But any decent player will AoE/magelight you out of it in a small scale encounter. If they surprise you with a zerg, well, their light attacks will pull you out all the time due to the lag issue, so I might as well die fighting them instead of failing to cloak away. You can make cloak more reliable as a defensive mechanism when you have the teleport shade and beam yourself back before cloaking.

Also cloak is great for getting from A to B if you are on your own, vamp and have Concealed slotted. You are as fast as medium users sprinting then.

Sadly on top of the cloak issue there is the out of combat bug that prevents you from going into normal sneak for quite some time, even when you manage to cloak away.

I just play my sorc for the next four months till they might fix some of these issues... But I don't believe they ever will due to...:

Zaldan wrote: »

Glamdring wrote: »

Is there any fix for this comming up? I use it only for offense theese days to get the crit in. For defense, getting away its totally useless since they reworked it a couple months ago. You get constantly taken out of cloak and attacks geting though cloak aswell. If I fight another nb i can ambush him even if he cloaks. So, ZoS u working on fixing this?

right after they fix templar gap closers

altemriel

Berenhir wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

Berenhir wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/275283/the-unofficial-cloak-thread/p1

But cloak is completely useless as a defensive ability anyway as everybody and their mother seems to be running detection pots or hurricane. It is not meant to work as a defensive ability in a melee fight anymore. Look at the defensive morph, which gives minor protection after you get pulled out of cloak.

Cloak is only good to suppress siege DoTs and break radiant beams or make your DoTs and HoTs crit.

Often the server lag makes you think you have cloaked already, as you get the animation and the "hidden" message on your screen but your opponent has fired his shot when on his client you were still visible (about 0.5-1 sec delay is normal, even if ping rating says otherwise). This results in an update of your client, pulling you out of cloak when for your opponent (and the server) you never cloaked in the first place.

Use the light armor shield. Healing Ward is also broken and doesn't work reliable, so you might want to combine it with blessing of restoration instead, as you can't use mutagen when others are around due to the mutagen targeting bug.

Well after writing all that down you might just skip magblade in PvP as a whole. It surely is the squishiest class of them all when played as a DD and most of its core mechanics are broken, bugged or have been nerfed into the ground.

well depends on who you meet, cloak on my NB saved my life many times

Yeah, well, that's what it is supposed to do when it works.

But any decent player will AoE/magelight you out of it in a small scale encounter. If they surprise you with a zerg, well, their light attacks will pull you out all the time due to the lag issue, so I might as well die fighting them instead of failing to cloak away. You can make cloak more reliable as a defensive mechanism when you have the teleport shade and beam yourself back before cloaking.

Also cloak is great for getting from A to B if you are on your own, vamp and have Concealed slotted. You are as fast as medium users sprinting then.

Sadly on top of the cloak issue there is the out of combat bug that prevents you from going into normal sneak for quite some time, even when you manage to cloak away.

I just play my sorc for the next four months till they might fix some of these issues... But I don't believe they ever will due to...:

Zaldan wrote: »

Glamdring wrote: »

Is there any fix for this comming up? I use it only for offense theese days to get the crit in. For defense, getting away its totally useless since they reworked it a couple months ago. You get constantly taken out of cloak and attacks geting though cloak aswell. If I fight another nb i can ambush him even if he cloaks. So, ZoS u working on fixing this?

right after they fix templar gap closers

"nice"...

DemonDruaga

Well.. activate shadow port and do cloak right after, go out of los and you escaped 100%
Like every class needs to do some skill combination to pull of tricks.
Just hitting one button while in the face of your enemy and getting away seems way to easy
(Yeah i do own a mageblade)

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

altemriel wrote: »

Glamdring wrote: »

Is there any fix for this comming up? I use it only for offense theese days to get the crit in. For defense, getting away its totally useless since they reworked it a couple months ago. You get constantly taken out of cloak and attacks geting though cloak aswell. If I fight another nb i can ambush him even if he cloaks. So, ZoS u working on fixing this?

wait, could you elaborate more on the cloak being broken? I recently rolled a mag NB and I would like to know more...

Cloak is trash for getting away it's still the most countered power in the game. You should surpress the DoTs on your when cloaked yet many DoT ticks still take you out of cloak without lag. Plus a Mage guild power that disables it completely and a Potion that lets you cloak and gives you no warning they you are visible when you think you're cloaked.

Now if you're far enough away you can cloak and break line of sight but as an escape or defensive power it's not worth the slot. I live longer on my Melee bar when I don't waste magic trying to use it. If you enemy pops Mage light every 5 seconds the can near perma grey out the power.

If you want to use cloak be at range or stack everything you have to damage and nuke in one burst it's enraging to the other guy but it's not like we have other class defenses.

Syiccal

What do you use instead of cloak I still find it to good offensively not to have it on my bar

susmitds

Swainburg wrote: »

People are also a lot better at trying to pull nightblades out of stealth. Also, DoTs are very good at pulling, which is popular now.

In my humble opinion, I think its broken that nightblades get to use stealth so easily anyway.

Plenty of nightblades can escape me anyway with it

DoTs are not supposed to pull NBs out of stealth in the first place.

WalksonGraves

Berenhir wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

Berenhir wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/275283/the-unofficial-cloak-thread/p1

But cloak is completely useless as a defensive ability anyway as everybody and their mother seems to be running detection pots or hurricane. It is not meant to work as a defensive ability in a melee fight anymore. Look at the defensive morph, which gives minor protection after you get pulled out of cloak.

Cloak is only good to suppress siege DoTs and break radiant beams or make your DoTs and HoTs crit.

Often the server lag makes you think you have cloaked already, as you get the animation and the "hidden" message on your screen but your opponent has fired his shot when on his client you were still visible (about 0.5-1 sec delay is normal, even if ping rating says otherwise). This results in an update of your client, pulling you out of cloak when for your opponent (and the server) you never cloaked in the first place.

Use the light armor shield. Healing Ward is also broken and doesn't work reliable, so you might want to combine it with blessing of restoration instead, as you can't use mutagen when others are around due to the mutagen targeting bug.

Well after writing all that down you might just skip magblade in PvP as a whole. It surely is the squishiest class of them all when played as a DD and most of its core mechanics are broken, bugged or have been nerfed into the ground.

well depends on who you meet, cloak on my NB saved my life many times

Yeah, well, that's what it is supposed to do when it works.

But any decent player will AoE/magelight you out of it in a small scale encounter. If they surprise you with a zerg, well, their light attacks will pull you out all the time due to the lag issue, so I might as well die fighting them instead of failing to cloak away. You can make cloak more reliable as a defensive mechanism when you have the teleport shade and beam yourself back before cloaking.

Also cloak is great for getting from A to B if you are on your own, vamp and have Concealed slotted. You are as fast as medium users sprinting then.

Sadly on top of the cloak issue there is the out of combat bug that prevents you from going into normal sneak for quite some time, even when you manage to cloak away.

I just play my sorc for the next four months till they might fix some of these issues... But I don't believe they ever will due to...:

Zaldan wrote: »

Glamdring wrote: »

Is there any fix for this comming up? I use it only for offense theese days to get the crit in. For defense, getting away its totally useless since they reworked it a couple months ago. You get constantly taken out of cloak and attacks geting though cloak aswell. If I fight another nb i can ambush him even if he cloaks. So, ZoS u working on fixing this?

right after they fix templar gap closers

Do you also get inconsistent results with concealed? It feels like half the time im running at base vampire speed.

Edziu

Zaldan wrote: »

Glamdring wrote: »

Is there any fix for this comming up? I use it only for offense theese days to get the crit in. For defense, getting away its totally useless since they reworked it a couple months ago. You get constantly taken out of cloak and attacks geting though cloak aswell. If I fight another nb i can ambush him even if he cloaks. So, ZoS u working on fixing this?

right after they fix templar gap closers

1 question

breath of life is suppressing by potions or other methods that may do not heal you enough to save you from death? templar gap closer is to other theard, not in like ths, bb

Xvorg

susmitds wrote: »

Swainburg wrote: »

People are also a lot better at trying to pull nightblades out of stealth. Also, DoTs are very good at pulling, which is popular now.

In my humble opinion, I think its broken that nightblades get to use stealth so easily anyway.

Plenty of nightblades can escape me anyway with it

DoTs are not supposed to pull NBs out of stealth in the first place.

But put a telegraph on your position