If the Vestige decided to kill Thane Mera Stormcloak in Windhelm...

TheAngelofDeath99 · September 2016

Seeing as how The Elder Scrolls IV: Skyrim takes place 948 years after the events of ESO, how much of an impact would it have on the storyline?

KhajiitiLizard · September 2016

It's TESV...

Anyway... it might, it might not... she would not be the only Stormcloak, who's to say Ulfric was a descendant of her, and not some other Stormcloak? But even if Ulfric was not directly related to her (descended from a cousin, sibling, etc) it could have a huge impact.

ArchMikem · September 2016

Thane Mera might have some major impact on future events that has absolutely nothing to do with Ulfric. Like lizard said, shes not the only Stormcloak, shes just one woman in a whole clan.

Totalitarian · September 2016

If we assume that Thane Mera is the direct ancestor of Ulfric, even then, Mera may have had children before the Vestige kills her.

Korah_Eaglecry · September 2016

Would she even be allowed to pass on the Stormcloak name? I assumed she was either married into the Stormcloaks or was a daughter of one of the Stormcloaks.

RebornV3x · September 2016

Even if you were to kill Mera( asssuming she is a direct ancestor of Ulfric) The Sormcloack rebellion would still have happened maybe later on or just someone else leading it but all the events in Skyrim would probably unfold in relatively the same way they would have if Ulfric was born thats just how Time Travel/Alternate History works or so TV would have me believe.

jhharvest · September 2016

ESO is not canon, afaik. Dragonbreak or some nonsense.

Enodoc · September 2016

jhharvest wrote: »

ESO is not canon, afaik. Dragonbreak or some nonsense.

Yes it is. ESO is fully and completely canonical. Any "Dragon break" nonsense is just fan theory (at least until Bethesda confirms otherwise).

RAGUNAnoOne · September 2016

Rolf storm fist would lead the rebellion after killing all the dark elves and Argonians in windhelm

waterfairy · September 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

jhharvest wrote: »

ESO is not canon, afaik. Dragonbreak or some nonsense.

Yes it is. ESO is fully and completely canonical. Any "Dragon break" nonsense is just fan theory (at least until Bethesda confirms otherwise).

Any official confirmation from Bethesda that ESO is canon? This retcon stuff goes against what happened in Oblivion.

Enodoc · September 2016

Vigarr wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

jhharvest wrote: »

ESO is not canon, afaik. Dragonbreak or some nonsense.

Yes it is. ESO is fully and completely canonical. Any "Dragon break" nonsense is just fan theory (at least until Bethesda confirms otherwise).

Any official confirmation from Bethesda that ESO is canon? This retcon stuff goes against what happened in Oblivion.

Here:

https://twitter.com/tesonline/status/372017971423498240

I don't want to derail this thread, but what specifically goes against what happened in Oblivion?

On killing Thane Mera; she's a quest giver. I didn't think you could kill quest givers.

elias.stormneb18_ESO · September 2016

jhharvest wrote: »

ESO is not canon, afaik. Dragonbreak or some nonsense.

As @Enodoc sais, ESO is just as canon as any other TES game. I have no idea why you would think otherwise. Also, even if ESO takes place during a Dragonbreak it doesn't make it non-canon or even possible to disregard. The events of TES II: Daggerfall cause a Dragonbreak, but that doesn't mean that Daggerfall is in any way "non-Canon".

Milvan · September 2016

What if the vestige kills Thane Mera Stormcloak and everything else is a butterfly effect of it? Like every chaotic incident actually happens because the vestige killed Mera Stormcloak???

Rosveen · September 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

jhharvest wrote: »

ESO is not canon, afaik. Dragonbreak or some nonsense.

Yes it is. ESO is fully and completely canonical. Any "Dragon break" nonsense is just fan theory (at least until Bethesda confirms otherwise).

Even then, dragon breaks are canon.

Enodoc · September 2016

Rosveen wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

jhharvest wrote: »

ESO is not canon, afaik. Dragonbreak or some nonsense.

Yes it is. ESO is fully and completely canonical. Any "Dragon break" nonsense is just fan theory (at least until Bethesda confirms otherwise).

Even then, dragon breaks are canon.

Yeah, but only the ones that Bethesda has introduced. That's the Middle Dawn, the Warp in the West, the First Numidium Effect, the Disappearance of the Dwarves, and Tid-Ahraan. Saying that ESO occurs in a dragon break is not canon.

Rosveen · September 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

jhharvest wrote: »

ESO is not canon, afaik. Dragonbreak or some nonsense.

Yes it is. ESO is fully and completely canonical. Any "Dragon break" nonsense is just fan theory (at least until Bethesda confirms otherwise).

Even then, dragon breaks are canon.

Yeah, but only the ones that Bethesda has introduced. That's the Middle Dawn, the Warp in the West, the First Numidium Effect, the Disappearance of the Dwarves, and Tid-Ahraan. Saying that ESO occurs in a dragon break is not canon.

I didn't say it did, it was a more general statement. What I meant was: happening during a dragon break doesn't make something non-canon. It's a part of lore. We can discuss if and how it was recorded in Tamrielic history or if anyone even remembers it at all, but the breaks themselves are canon and so would be ESO even if it happened in one.

Of course, the problem could be with the definition of the word "canon". :P