Oceanic player base slowly dying

Calboy

Is it me or is the oceanic player base getting dangerously close to being non existent in cyrodiil? On Xbox NA the amount of times im logging into cyrodiil to find nothing happening is becoming more and more and its sort of depressing in a way.

svartorn

The hell? Oceanic time zones are ruining the North American campaigns.

NACtron

svartorn wrote: »

The hell? Oceanic time zones are ruining the North American campaigns.

He's on Xbox. Not PC

Volrion

Game performance playing from Asia/Oceana is pretty abismal.

Most Aussies I've chatted with are either exclusive PVE, or if they do Pvp its only in the sewers or ganking. (Myself included). We simply can't engage in a fair fight with 500 ping.

I actually quit, along with about 20 of my friends after about three months of ps4 launch. We would hide in Black water to avoid the lag as best we could, but even then your ping is always going to have you at a huge disadvantage, and we ended up growing tired of it.

For the record; All of my friends who quit, did so because of Pvp performance. We still talk about the game together, and wish we could play on a JPN server.

Two of us came back when we were (mis)informed about Japan server launch about two months ago.

I've stuck around for some group PVE, and occasional sewer gank.

I PVE to PVP. So with the fact that I can't even step into Cyrodiil without lagging off the map, I'll probably be on my way out soon too.

Japan/Oceana server would have been awesome, and could have been heavily populated back at console launch. Unfortunately I fear that ship has sailed. It would be quite a task to convince people to come back, even with a local server.

500 ping gaming is not fun.

outsideworld76

Lag is destroying this game, even in close proximity of the servers the lag is huge. ZOS just doesn't know how to fix this. Buy some more paint in the crown store please, we are aware of the problem but won't solve the inconvenience.

Manoekin

I'm sure being blamed for ruining the game has nothing to do with it along with the various other harassing remarks. Also, game performance (especially for them) obviously has nothing to do with it either.

HoloYoitsu

All the kangaroos I know play overwatch now instead. Something about having a game that's not doo doo.

SkylarkX

As an oceanic player I didgeridon't understand why some prime time players get so worked up. The map barely moves at all during our play time, it's not until most of us have gone to bed that the big zergs arrive and the map gets a shake up. But then again, what use are concepts like truth and reality to self righteous whingers.

Countcalorie

Yeah the lag and the amount of times ive been kicked have been a lot on the xbox. its not getting fixed anytime soon either. the pvp is near dead on my time but in prime time I get kicked within 2-5 mins

Sigma957

I'm an Aussie and play pvp as well as pve, can do ok on 300 ping (260) if I am lucky get killed but I can kill as well.

Kram8ion

Well I'm on ps4 and there are blocks of hours i just can't play due to th performance of pvp but what's strange is that those blocks change dramatically the time of day and day of the week as well as population numbers
The only way I can get some sort of decent playtime is switching off all wifi in my house and direct cable from ps4 into the router or wall
This does not make me popular in the house
This includes phones too

nagarjunna

I'm in NZ, latency averages 220ms...

If I race someone to a farm node they win.
If I race someone to a PvP target they win

I win some, I lose some. I have fun.

Destyran

nagarjunna wrote: »

I'm in NZ, latency averages 220ms...

If I race someone to a farm node they win.
If I race someone to a PvP target they win

I win some, I lose some. I have fun.

^ this is my eso life

Meilinka

I'm in England, my ping is usually around 200 during my daytime. When it gets busy I'll be at about 300.

Asgari

The overall pvp player base has been dying for a long time and is now being felt across platforms and zones. Next update and the updates following further push the catering towards casual new gamers which is only going to make things worse.

More zerging
less overall battles in Cyro
etc.

Waylander

^

Hopefully with the new update things are fresh for a few weeks whilst a new meta is developed, but I can't see anything that discourages zerging proposed.

Spliffo

SourishWhale wrote: »

Game performance playing from Asia/Oceana is pretty abismal.

Most Aussies I've chatted with are either exclusive PVE, or if they do Pvp its only in the sewers or ganking. (Myself included). We simply can't engage in a fair fight with 500 ping.

I actually quit, along with about 20 of my friends after about three months of ps4 launch. We would hide in Black water to avoid the lag as best we could, but even then your ping is always going to have you at a huge disadvantage, and we ended up growing tired of it.

For the record; All of my friends who quit, did so because of Pvp performance. We still talk about the game together, and wish we could play on a JPN server.

Two of us came back when we were (mis)informed about Japan server launch about two months ago.

I've stuck around for some group PVE, and occasional sewer gank.

I PVE to PVP. So with the fact that I can't even step into Cyrodiil without lagging off the map, I'll probably be on my way out soon too.

Japan/Oceana server would have been awesome, and could have been heavily populated back at console launch. Unfortunately I fear that ship has sailed. It would be quite a task to convince people to come back, even with a local server.

500 ping gaming is not fun.

Bad excuse for a bad player, don't blame your ping for you not being able to react quick enough in a fight.
From an Aussie

Johnniet85

I'm Australian and my ping is around 200 and I hold my own quite well in PvP and don't find it an issue.

JaJaLuka

SourishWhale wrote: »

Game performance playing from Asia/Oceana is pretty abismal.

Most Aussies I've chatted with are either exclusive PVE, or if they do Pvp its only in the sewers or ganking. (Myself included). We simply can't engage in a fair fight with 500 ping.

I actually quit, along with about 20 of my friends after about three months of ps4 launch. We would hide in Black water to avoid the lag as best we could, but even then your ping is always going to have you at a huge disadvantage, and we ended up growing tired of it.

For the record; All of my friends who quit, did so because of Pvp performance. We still talk about the game together, and wish we could play on a JPN server.

Two of us came back when we were (mis)informed about Japan server launch about two months ago.

I've stuck around for some group PVE, and occasional sewer gank.

I PVE to PVP. So with the fact that I can't even step into Cyrodiil without lagging off the map, I'll probably be on my way out soon too.

Japan/Oceana server would have been awesome, and could have been heavily populated back at console launch. Unfortunately I fear that ship has sailed. It would be quite a task to convince people to come back, even with a local server.

500 ping gaming is not fun.

Should play PC, apart from lag spikes due to extreme zerging etc it sits at about 250 ping for Australians (myself included).

Volrion

Spliffo wrote: »

SourishWhale wrote: »

Game performance playing from Asia/Oceana is pretty abismal.

Most Aussies I've chatted with are either exclusive PVE, or if they do Pvp its only in the sewers or ganking. (Myself included). We simply can't engage in a fair fight with 500 ping.

I actually quit, along with about 20 of my friends after about three months of ps4 launch. We would hide in Black water to avoid the lag as best we could, but even then your ping is always going to have you at a huge disadvantage, and we ended up growing tired of it.

For the record; All of my friends who quit, did so because of Pvp performance. We still talk about the game together, and wish we could play on a JPN server.

Two of us came back when we were (mis)informed about Japan server launch about two months ago.

I've stuck around for some group PVE, and occasional sewer gank.

I PVE to PVP. So with the fact that I can't even step into Cyrodiil without lagging off the map, I'll probably be on my way out soon too.

Japan/Oceana server would have been awesome, and could have been heavily populated back at console launch. Unfortunately I fear that ship has sailed. It would be quite a task to convince people to come back, even with a local server.

500 ping gaming is not fun.

Bad excuse for a bad player, don't blame your ping for you not being able to react quick enough in a fight.
From an Aussie

Lol, I'll send you some video if you like...

When I was living in America with <50 ping, I was top player on any FPS public server I played on. It got to the point that I actually got bored as it wasn't a challenge anymore. Got recruited to pro clans but didn't want to commit the time to it. (Girlfriend, studies, and I was a student athlete.)

As for ESO, when we first started playing I was 1vXing all the time (biggest fight I had was 8 enemies at once... Wiped them all) in green gear with ZERO CP on BWB.

With no OP gear, no CP advantage and still able to do this with a huge latency disadvantage, I think I have an idea of what I'm talking about... Certainly not the best, but I'm not a bad player either.

(This was pre IC. After IC, and once I hit vet, open world Pvp became unplayable. That same stamplar that was once a killing machine, now gets stuck in crit rush for 10 seconds until he gets a death recap screen... GG.)

I can game. But under these conditions, it's just not as enjoyable. I'm still here. But I can understand why so many have left.

Regardless of all that, you're missing the point of my original post.

Why would people play 500 ping in a broken game, when they can go shred with <50 ping in any number of other games available on their given platform?

Volrion

@JaJaLuka

I have heard that. Unfortunately I'm too heavily invested in my ps4 toons and I'd be dreadful on mouse and key board.

Been console gaming since dad's n64 Christmas present 20 years ago!

I'm logging in sporadically to keep the CP ticking over until battle grounds shows up.

I'll check that out, and if it's enjoyable I'll be back again full time. If not, I'll probably move on also.

ForsakenSin

yhea i can agree with that

other day ive seen yellow so i went ATTACK got behind him done full rotation of attacks he was not moving and me going aa that was easy couple of sec later he turns and im dead ..

biting jabs, biting jabs,Uppercut , biting jabs dawnbraker and im like..wwhhhaaattt...? i.. didn't...see...any...of...those.... really .. T bagging me... that's just great FML

Volrion

@ForsakenSin

You can never see the attacks, but you can always see the t-bag.

At least ZOS has their priorities in check.

ForsakenSin

@SourishWhale

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Well said brother well said ohhh man that was awesome !

RinaldoGandolphi

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

The overall pvp player base has been dying for a long time and is now being felt across platforms and zones. Next update and the updates following further push the catering towards casual new gamers which is only going to make things worse.

More zerging
less overall battles in Cyro
etc.

Yup

Combine this with some of these new proc sets coming out GG. Last night at ales farm literally 7 out of 10 players were all wearing Velidreth nothing but giant green eggs rolling everywhere, those not wearing that were Malaubeth Templars and I feel like an outcast for leaving that cheese gear sit in my bank

s_jscorpiorwb17_ESO

SourishWhale wrote: »

Game performance playing from Asia/Oceana is pretty abismal.

Most Aussies I've chatted with are either exclusive PVE, or if they do Pvp its only in the sewers or ganking. (Myself included). We simply can't engage in a fair fight with 500 ping.

I actually quit, along with about 20 of my friends after about three months of ps4 launch. We would hide in Black water to avoid the lag as best we could, but even then your ping is always going to have you at a huge disadvantage, and we ended up growing tired of it.

For the record; All of my friends who quit, did so because of Pvp performance. We still talk about the game together, and wish we could play on a JPN server.

Two of us came back when we were (mis)informed about Japan server launch about two months ago.

I've stuck around for some group PVE, and occasional sewer gank.

I PVE to PVP. So with the fact that I can't even step into Cyrodiil without lagging off the map, I'll probably be on my way out soon too.

Japan/Oceana server would have been awesome, and could have been heavily populated back at console launch. Unfortunately I fear that ship has sailed. It would be quite a task to convince people to come back, even with a local server.

500 ping gaming is not fun.

What location to you play from in aussie, most people I know in sydney get around 240-280 ping & thats without the new NBN being installed just *** old adsl2 copper lines.

silky_soft

You should play pc. Plenty of coh and ram to farm.

donJay

I've been hearing " the eso community is dying" and "the game is dying" since launch. What I'm trying to say is, that what you're experiencing is probably an illusion. Yes the people you know are leaving the game and etc. but that doesn't mean the numbers of total players are decreasing. Everyone from NA thinks the pvp community is dying because all the "hard core" players quit. But they don't realize how much bigger the zergs and groups have been becoming.

ScruffyWhiskers

It's a not so dirty secret but low ping is a huge factor in this game. Sure your (stam) build, skill loadouts along with experience, SA and good manual dexterity will be big factor. But in the end a low ping is worth a hundred divisions.

Erudition

donJay wrote: »

I've been hearing " the eso community is dying" and "the game is dying" since launch. What I'm trying to say is, that what you're experiencing is probably an illusion. Yes the people you know are leaving the game and etc. but that doesn't mean the numbers of total players are decreasing. Everyone from NA thinks the pvp community is dying because all the "hard core" players quit. But they don't realize how much bigger the zergs and groups have been becoming.

Agree, the game seems stronger than ever to me. And Aussies whinging about ping need to try harder, mine is 260-280 (with the very rare 999+) and you just get on with it. There are loads of great Aussie players who manage it just fine.

Waylander

My Oceanic guild have been pve-ing more than pvping lately - sadly the pvp environment hasn't been as fun (proc sets, zergs, maluplars).

Getting the urge to kill some people again