I'm Worried About CP180 Gear

Ch4mpTW

If ZOS ever increases the gear to CP180 from CP160, will there be a way of increasing our previously obtained gear to CP180? Because if history repeats itself, VDSA and VMA will only offer CP160 weapons as rewards — and honestly...? I love my weapons. I worked hard for them, and I'm worried that they'll mean nothing if crafted CP180 weapons will outclass them.

Not to mention, if ZOS does in fact allow these places to drop CP180 gear? It is going to be extremely disheartening to have to grind again for sharpened weapons.

olsborg

Agreed, the day they increase gear cap to180 ill probably quit the game, because that means they will increase it again and again and again and the grind will never, ever stop.

halkjear

Well an mmo is usually a never ending journey towards better equipment. Once you get what you want something new is introduced that you have to work for. Otherwise you would just be doing the same exact thing over and over and for what reason?
At least right now you are doing the same thing over and over in hope of a reward you need. Or were, in case you now already have it all.

In any case to answer your question. No. I doubt your current CP160 gear will just be upgraded to 180. At least the old DSA gear was not upgraded from 140 to 160 and many of us worked hard for those weapons as well! No instead we had to do the content again once it was improved to 160 to get those items at CP160. Same goes for anything else such as monster helmets and shoulders from dungeons and gold keys. Items at CP140 were not just upgraded to 160 we all had to re-farm and re-craft the stuff we wanted. Same thing is likely to happen once CP180 is introduced.

On the bright side no mention of a raise to CP180 has yet been made, as far as I know, so it will probably be a long time still.

AzraelKrieg

Will it happen? More than likely. Is it going to happen soon? Nope. Will you need to recraft and farm equipment again if it happens? Yes.

Reverb

You never have your "last" end game gear for an MMO. Ever. At some point it will increase to cp180, and beyond. Just like it once increased from vr10 to vr12, then vr14, then vr16. And we all had to craft, farm and upgrade our gear all over again, every time. And we'll do it again for cp increases, for the sake of progression.

Rykmaar

Reverb wrote: »

You never have your "last" end game gear for an MMO. Ever. At some point it will increase to cp180, and beyond. Just like it once increased from vr10 to vr12, then vr14, then vr16. And we all had to craft, farm and upgrade our gear all over again, every time. And we'll do it again for cp increases, for the sake of progression.

The only problem is that that isn't really progression. It's artificial. It's just them forcing you to spend money on materials for the same gear you were wearing. That's boring. This game needs more traditional MMO progression.

Ryuuhime

Imagine farming all your sharpened vMA and Master weapons all over again for the CP180 version of them.

Mic1007

Didn't they like just remove levels for all practical purposes? NPCs don't even show a level anymore. No point in increasing level caps for gear anymore. More usable CPs alone seem like a powerful enough upgrade.

Sigtric

It was stated at PAX West two weekends ago that while they are no current/immediate plans to increase the gear cap, that is not out of the question. Expect it to happen at some point. It wont be soon.

Dragonnord

Ryuuhime wrote: »

Imagine farming all your sharpened vMA and Master weapons all over again for the CP180 version of them.

And when you get them, you then start farming the CP200 ones.

Vaoh

Ryuuhime wrote: »

Imagine farming all your sharpened vMA and Master weapons all over again for the CP180 version of them.

I still haven't got them all.

150+ runs and counting with tons of weeklies.

If they raise it to CP180, I would not be able to grind that content again. ZOS could implement a way to upgrade the level of an item.... but....

I'd likely lose the incentive to continue playing with the current RNG in place with certain content. Some gear is nigh on impossible to get. Raising the level means your current gear becomes obsolete.

To be perfectly honest, I doubt I'd keep playing if a very easy way to upgrade my gear to CP180 didn't exist.

AzraelKrieg

Sigtric wrote: »

It was stated at PAX West two weekends ago that while they are no current/immediate plans to increase the gear cap, that is not out of the question. Expect it to happen at some point. It wont be soon.

Thanks Siggy. I was trying to remember when Rich said something about gear cap increase.

Soundwave

They could release a whole new area, where it doesn't scale. Would become some kind of end game content, where only 160 could venture. Trials and dungeons would require u to be at least 160 and the grind for gear would suck.

Runs

... Personally, I'm hoping by the time the new material(180) are out they will have eliminated gear levels and have gear base off the level you are while wearing and your associated armor/weapon levels instead. And which materials used only effect how the gear looks(which tier of the motif is used).

BrianDavion

on the other hand 180 gear does mean maybe we'd not have to worry about the aweful looking red swords everywhere

if they DO switch out to 180 gear I hope the new metal tier is skysteel or something. ya know... a steel looking metal

Bouldercleave

I would think at SOME point it will have to happen.

My concern is that if it is a base 10 increase from 150 -160, what the heck are they going to implement to increase it?

Perhaps a whole new element? If they do that, what would they use for a base quantity?

Are they going to lower the quantity of increase from 150-160? That would infuriate many that spent tons of coin or lots of time farming large quantity of mats.

I think of this question often, and usually only come up with more questions, but very few answers.

Travestynox

If you're adverse to grinding for gear, maybe MMOs aren't for you (tongue in cheek)

Alaztor91

I would not mind IF they add a token system for stuff like vMA weapons and monster shoulders or some way to change trait on items.
If that doesn't happen then I would probably just use crafted stuff(assuming that you can craft jewelry by then).
If none of those happen I would just quit the game I guess.

Tavore1138

Well they deleted my Master Bow so I assume they intend to force us to grind even if we already had the top gear.

Soundwave

olsborg wrote: »

Agreed, the day they increase gear cap to180 ill probably quit the game, because that means they will increase it again and again and again and the grind will never, ever stop.

Thats the point of an mmo, its living breathing world; that keeps,on evolving. A new tamriel threat will emerge and 160 wont cut it. Our armor will need to be stronger, so increase to 160 or maybe 200. Our armor stat would be higher and we could take more damage combine with cp than before.

UltimaJoe777

olsborg wrote: »

Agreed, the day they increase gear cap to180 ill probably quit the game, because that means they will increase it again and again and again and the grind will never, ever stop.

Actually I predict it will stop at 200 as that is a nice well-rounded point of conclusion.

scorpiodog

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

If ZOS ever increases the gear to CP180 from CP160, will there be a way of increasing our previously obtained gear to CP180? Because if history repeats itself, VDSA and VMA will only offer CP160 weapons as rewards — and honestly...? I love my weapons. I worked hard for them, and I'm worried that they'll mean nothing if crafted CP180 weapons will outclass them.

Not to mention, if ZOS does in fact allow these places to drop CP180 gear? It is going to be extremely disheartening to have to grind again for sharpened weapons.

Hopefully they will add new content to get the 180 gear. Otherwise, yeah, it would really suck to do the same content to get better gear. I can't even imagine doing VMA 300 times one to get a specific item with a specific trait you want. To do it 300 times MORE just to get the same item at 180 instead of 160 would be absurd.

So hopefully they will make it so you will WANT to do new and more difficult content to get the higher level new (but different) items. Otherwise, yeah it will just suck.

Rohamad_Ali

Relax there is no plans for this yet . We will all cry together the day it happens and then go grind again .

itsfatbass

I am absolutely without a doubt completely looking FORWARD to gear and mob caps being raised, for multiple reasons. It gives me new gear to go after, it gives us newer, more challenging fights to beat and will most likely mean a SLEW of new content/zones. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the entire point of MMO's with content releases??

Soundwave

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Relax there is no plans for this yet . We will all cry together the day it happens and then go grind again .

Well we don't know really, even if they said no. They could just be saying no just to keep us quite about the increase.

I rather talk about it and be prepared, then finding suddenly.

Rex-Umbra

A way to upgrade with new materials should be added.

phaseadept

It will happen, yes people will grind for gear again.

It happens in every MMO.

Can you really see yourself doing the same content a year from now?

Oh look, they just increased the boss health x10. . . And our weapons aren't any stronger. Yay?

Mortehl

This is the first mmo I've ever played where people act so surprised that gear caps are always ever on the rise.

MasterSpatula

Reverb wrote: »

You never have your "last" end game gear for an MMO. Ever. At some point it will increase to cp180, and beyond. Just like it once increased from vr10 to vr12, then vr14, then vr16. And we all had to craft, farm and upgrade our gear all over again, every time. And we'll do it again for cp increases, for the sake of progression.

With global level scaling, there is no progression. If/when they increase the gear cap, you won't have to farm/upgrade/grind your way up for the sake of progression, but just to get back to where you had been.

kevlarto_ESO

I understand your concern but, Lambert said when this happens if it happens it would be a small increase in level, I would not lose any sleep at this time, they need to get what they have out now fixed and balanced.

leepalmer95

Im with @olsborg the day they increase it to 180 is the day i'll likely quit.

Getting certain gear is annoying enough with RNG but they the price to upgrade it to gold, at least on ps4 eu where a alloy is 20k... is just crazy.