DirectX 12 support in ESO

Origin

It was announced at the beginning of the year that ESO will get DX12 support. Are there any news about this?

raglau

That would be good news. Hopefully that would sort out the poor multicore performance of ESO.

Agalloch

Directx 12 with Vulkan API would be great!

reesenorman

frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »

Directx 12 with Vulkan API would be great!

DX12 is DX12 and Vulkan is Vulkan.

WarMasterCyp

lol I specifically bought a graphics card that supports DX 12 but no games I play so far support it. I doubt ESO will be DX 12 any time soon...

Darethran

Direct3D 12 is defo' not the way to go; that's tied to Windows 10. Vulkan, 'owever, spans Windows 7, 8, 10 and Linux. Give us the renderer that goes intae more than just the one OS.

Darethran

Pibbles wrote: »

That would be good news. Hopefully that would sort out the poor multicore performance of ESO.

I'm curious; how much does the client do outside of rendering? Does it only use single threaded sound and collision? For sure, though, having a renderer that chokes on tens of thousands of draw calls (or hundreds if ZOS gives us parallelized draw call submissions), rather than a couple thousand, will do wonders for any open world game.

Case in point, it's draw calls that make your framerate drop the low teens in Trueflame; 5-6 draw calls for each individual piece of gear, body, head, pair of eyes, hair 'n' weapon? That's, what, ~70 draw calls per player. Chuck in 20v20 players ( 70 * 10 = 700, * 4 = 2800 draw calls just for two decently sized groups of players), in an open world game, with lots of architecture and environment models 'n' NPCs, and suddenly, we're making nigh-on 10 thousand draw calls, or some overly-high-number-for-Direct3D-11.

Doctordarkspawn

So long as they dont completely overhaul the engine again and force your card to be direct x 12 compliant on a hardware level to play.

Darethran

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

So long as they dont completely overhaul the engine again and force your card to be direct x 12 compliant on a hardware level to play.

Keep the Direct3D 11 renderer as a legacy option. Problem solved.

Doctordarkspawn

MajinCry wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

So long as they dont completely overhaul the engine again and force your card to be direct x 12 compliant on a hardware level to play.

Keep the Direct3D 11 renderer as a legacy option. Problem solved.

They didn't do that the last time. I dont see why they'd do it this time, considering they were extremely ready to tell a good chunk of their customers with older hardware to go suck one.

xRIVALENx

MajinCry wrote: »

Direct3D 12 is defo' not the way to go; that's tied to Windows 10. Vulkan, 'owever, spans Windows 7, 8, 10 and Linux. Give us the renderer that goes intae more than just the one OS.

Would be wonderful to have ESO functional again under Linux.

raglau

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

MajinCry wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

So long as they dont completely overhaul the engine again and force your card to be direct x 12 compliant on a hardware level to play.

Keep the Direct3D 11 renderer as a legacy option. Problem solved.

They didn't do that the last time. I dont see why they'd do it this time, considering they were extremely ready to tell a good chunk of their customers with older hardware to go suck one.

The difference is that last time, the API (DX10) dropped outside vendor support, so ZOS could not reasonably be expected to support it either. DX11 is vendor supported until Oct 2009 so we'd imagine ZOS will also continue to support it until then, as they actually supported DX10 PAST the end of vendor support in terms of both software (MS) and hardware (Nvidia, AMD).