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Dont you think there needs to be a magic poison injection?
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The title pretty much says it all im sick of poison injection being the number one skill that drops a debuff for 10secs + leaving any magicka build completely useless. Iv seen multiple livestreams of genuine people getting rather annoyed with such one skill killer.
If there was a skill to counteract this i think magicka users would be on par with stam. We badly need a healing debuff skill. People have told me in cyrodil to use purge and other things but what about stam users do they have to purge. No because they really only have to worry about another bow tard out there anyway.
Im not saying it needs nerfing or nothing just saying dont you think magicka builds to be on par with everyone else being everything moving towards stam to have a healing debuff and a dot just like poison injection but as magicka instead?
What do you guys think?
Just find it very one sided tbh
If there was a skill to counteract this i think magicka users would be on par with stam. We badly need a healing debuff skill. People have told me in cyrodil to use purge and other things but what about stam users do they have to purge. No because they really only have to worry about another bow tard out there anyway.
Im not saying it needs nerfing or nothing just saying dont you think magicka builds to be on par with everyone else being everything moving towards stam to have a healing debuff and a dot just like poison injection but as magicka instead?
What do you guys think?
Just find it very one sided tbh
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✭- Why posion injecton leaves a magika build useless? dots are purgable and absorded by damage shields, also posion injection only ticks hard on low health targets, it won't do much if you keep your hp up. Posion injection affects equally magika and stamina users.
- Posion injection don't have a healing debuff attach to it, next time take 5 seconds to read the tooltip
- Why posion injection is "skill killer"? is a dot, like many others, nothing special about it.
Half of your post is almost imposible to understand, and the other half is plain wrong.Edited by ManDraKE on September 12, 2016 7:06PM7 -
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This skill can't kill people on its own, unlike SOME skills *cough* RD *cough cough*. Poison injection only ASSISTS in getting the kill along with other DPS abilities. Keep your health up so it doesnt do increased damage or purge it. Sounds like an L2P issue.CP 561- vSO HM - Completed
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MalakithAlamahdi✭✭✭✭✭Bandit1215 wrote: »/ignore
This skill can't kill people on its own, unlike SOME skills *cough* RD *cough cough*. Poison injection only ASSISTS in getting the kill along with other DPS abilities. Keep your health up so it doesnt do increased damage or purge it. Sounds like an L2P issue.
Sorry to say, but if you die from RD alone you should really look at your build. Can't wait for the new soul assault though.6 -
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✭✭MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »Bandit1215 wrote: »/ignore
This skill can't kill people on its own, unlike SOME skills *cough* RD *cough cough*. Poison injection only ASSISTS in getting the kill along with other DPS abilities. Keep your health up so it doesnt do increased damage or purge it. Sounds like an L2P issue.
Sorry to say, but if you die from RD alone you should really look at your build. Can't wait for the new soul assault though.
He also should look at his monitor sometimes when he dies from only raidiant-destruction
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MalakithAlamahdi✭✭✭✭✭MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »Bandit1215 wrote: »/ignore
This skill can't kill people on its own, unlike SOME skills *cough* RD *cough cough*. Poison injection only ASSISTS in getting the kill along with other DPS abilities. Keep your health up so it doesnt do increased damage or purge it. Sounds like an L2P issue.
Sorry to say, but if you die from RD alone you should really look at your build. Can't wait for the new soul assault though.
He also should look at his monitor sometimes when he dies from only raidiant-destruction
Lol, it's hard to not see where it comes from! I wonder how people will react when I hit them with a soul strike they can't dodge away from, the tooltip says it hits 75k for me.1 -
d3nbark3r✭✭✭I loled when I read that apparently poison inject is a healing debuff :') think someone is getting poison damage and disease damage mixed up
If you are seriously having trouble with poison inject I don't think there is any advice I can give that can help you out lmao.... maybe pvp just isn't for you.
As others have pointed out.... dots don't apply on Shields.... any magika build not running Shields is likely a templar and can cleanse the dots away.
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d3nbark3r✭✭✭MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »Bandit1215 wrote: »/ignore
This skill can't kill people on its own, unlike SOME skills *cough* RD *cough cough*. Poison injection only ASSISTS in getting the kill along with other DPS abilities. Keep your health up so it doesnt do increased damage or purge it. Sounds like an L2P issue.
Sorry to say, but if you die from RD alone you should really look at your build. Can't wait for the new soul assault though.
He also should look at his monitor sometimes when he dies from only raidiant-destruction
Lol, it's hard to not see where it comes from! I wonder how people will react when I hit them with a soul strike they can't dodge away from, the tooltip says it hits 75k for me.
Can't dodge away from but can interrupt with crushing shock... Venom arrow, toppling charge, chain pull, ambush, cloak, mostly ANY stun, and a simple shield bash. Useless waste of ultimate.Edited by d3nbark3r on September 13, 2016 12:02PMIf you like, have been inspired by or agree with the threads I start, please take your time to check an option at the bottom of the post, thanks! :') ;)0 -
MalakithAlamahdi✭✭✭✭✭MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »Bandit1215 wrote: »/ignore
This skill can't kill people on its own, unlike SOME skills *cough* RD *cough cough*. Poison injection only ASSISTS in getting the kill along with other DPS abilities. Keep your health up so it doesnt do increased damage or purge it. Sounds like an L2P issue.
Sorry to say, but if you die from RD alone you should really look at your build. Can't wait for the new soul assault though.
He also should look at his monitor sometimes when he dies from only raidiant-destruction
Lol, it's hard to not see where it comes from! I wonder how people will react when I hit them with a soul strike they can't dodge away from, the tooltip says it hits 75k for me.
Can't dodge away from but can interrupt with crushing shock... Venom arrow, toppling charge, chain pull, ambush, cloak, mostly ANY stun, and a simple shield bash. Useless waste of ultimate.
Soul Strike: This ability can no longer can be purged or interrupted, but can now be blocked.
You will now be immune to CC while channeling this ability.
Increased the damage from this ability by 15%.
This ability now prevents your target from entering stealth and invisibility for 2 seconds
After the patch it will be fun Edited by MalakithAlamahdi on September 13, 2016 12:09PM0 -
d3nbark3r✭✭✭MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »Bandit1215 wrote: »/ignore
This skill can't kill people on its own, unlike SOME skills *cough* RD *cough cough*. Poison injection only ASSISTS in getting the kill along with other DPS abilities. Keep your health up so it doesnt do increased damage or purge it. Sounds like an L2P issue.
Sorry to say, but if you die from RD alone you should really look at your build. Can't wait for the new soul assault though.
He also should look at his monitor sometimes when he dies from only raidiant-destruction
Lol, it's hard to not see where it comes from! I wonder how people will react when I hit them with a soul strike they can't dodge away from, the tooltip says it hits 75k for me.
Can't dodge away from but can interrupt with crushing shock... Venom arrow, toppling charge, chain pull, ambush, cloak, mostly ANY stun, and a simple shield bash. Useless waste of ultimate.
Soul Strike: This ability can no longer can be purged or interrupted, but can now be blocked.
You will now be immune to CC while channeling this ability.
Increased the damage from this ability by 15%.
This ability now prevents your target from entering stealth and invisibility for 2 seconds
After the patch it will be fun
I'm pretty sure it can still be interrupted with a shield bash. It still has a range also which can be broken with ease if the person can barely move whilst castingIf you like, have been inspired by or agree with the threads I start, please take your time to check an option at the bottom of the post, thanks! :') ;)0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »Bandit1215 wrote: »/ignore
This skill can't kill people on its own, unlike SOME skills *cough* RD *cough cough*. Poison injection only ASSISTS in getting the kill along with other DPS abilities. Keep your health up so it doesnt do increased damage or purge it. Sounds like an L2P issue.
Sorry to say, but if you die from RD alone you should really look at your build. Can't wait for the new soul assault though.
He also should look at his monitor sometimes when he dies from only raidiant-destruction
Lol, it's hard to not see where it comes from! I wonder how people will react when I hit them with a soul strike they can't dodge away from, the tooltip says it hits 75k for me.
Can't dodge away from but can interrupt with crushing shock... Venom arrow, toppling charge, chain pull, ambush, cloak, mostly ANY stun, and a simple shield bash. Useless waste of ultimate.
Soul Strike: This ability can no longer can be purged or interrupted, but can now be blocked.
You will now be immune to CC while channeling this ability.
Increased the damage from this ability by 15%.
This ability now prevents your target from entering stealth and invisibility for 2 seconds
After the patch it will be fun
I'm pretty sure it can still be interrupted with a shield bash. It still has a range also which can be broken with ease if the person can barely move whilst casting
The soul assault range is like 40m, it also has a nasty snare to the point where you come to a crawl.
And no you won't be able to bash it.PS4 EU DC
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MalakithAlamahdi✭✭✭✭✭MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »Bandit1215 wrote: »/ignore
This skill can't kill people on its own, unlike SOME skills *cough* RD *cough cough*. Poison injection only ASSISTS in getting the kill along with other DPS abilities. Keep your health up so it doesnt do increased damage or purge it. Sounds like an L2P issue.
Sorry to say, but if you die from RD alone you should really look at your build. Can't wait for the new soul assault though.
He also should look at his monitor sometimes when he dies from only raidiant-destruction
Lol, it's hard to not see where it comes from! I wonder how people will react when I hit them with a soul strike they can't dodge away from, the tooltip says it hits 75k for me.
Can't dodge away from but can interrupt with crushing shock... Venom arrow, toppling charge, chain pull, ambush, cloak, mostly ANY stun, and a simple shield bash. Useless waste of ultimate.
Soul Strike: This ability can no longer can be purged or interrupted, but can now be blocked.
You will now be immune to CC while channeling this ability.
Increased the damage from this ability by 15%.
This ability now prevents your target from entering stealth and invisibility for 2 seconds
After the patch it will be fun
I'm pretty sure it can still be interrupted with a shield bash. It still has a range also which can be broken with ease if the person can barely move whilst casting
Says it can't be interrupted, so I doubt a bash can. They probably did this to put it in line with the new bow ultimate. For the line of sight, most players aren't that fast, they don't even break RD and that one can be interrupted in every way. Else I'll just out vampires bane on my bar for a 60% snare!
I think it will be a lot more useful after the patch then it was now. Especially since most don't read the forums, so they will think they can still dodge roll break it
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✭✭✭✭✭MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »Bandit1215 wrote: »/ignore
This skill can't kill people on its own, unlike SOME skills *cough* RD *cough cough*. Poison injection only ASSISTS in getting the kill along with other DPS abilities. Keep your health up so it doesnt do increased damage or purge it. Sounds like an L2P issue.
Sorry to say, but if you die from RD alone you should really look at your build. Can't wait for the new soul assault though.
He also should look at his monitor sometimes when he dies from only raidiant-destruction
Lol, it's hard to not see where it comes from! I wonder how people will react when I hit them with a soul strike they can't dodge away from, the tooltip says it hits 75k for me.
Can't dodge away from but can interrupt with crushing shock... Venom arrow, toppling charge, chain pull, ambush, cloak, mostly ANY stun, and a simple shield bash. Useless waste of ultimate.
Soul Strike: This ability can no longer can be purged or interrupted, but can now be blocked.
You will now be immune to CC while channeling this ability.
Increased the damage from this ability by 15%.
This ability now prevents your target from entering stealth and invisibility for 2 seconds
After the patch it will be fun
I'm pretty sure it can still be interrupted with a shield bash. It still has a range also which can be broken with ease if the person can barely move whilst casting
Says it can't be interrupted, so I doubt a bash can. They probably did this to put it in line with the new bow ultimate. For the line of sight, most players aren't that fast, they don't even break RD and that one can be interrupted in every way. Else I'll just out vampires bane on my bar for a 60% snare!
I think it will be a lot more useful after the patch then it was now. Especially since most don't read the forums, so they will think they can still dodge roll break it
Yea that sounds correct.
As much as they buffed this skill, the better change would have been to review the current toolkits and provide everyone with their own undodgable Magicka channel/attack.
Or review dodge chance's position as a passive mitigation with a "set it and forget it" mentality.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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They should give it a morph that gives you 9% stamina back each time the effected player dodge rolls. That would be hilarious.0 -
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I remember actually wanting to try out the Soul magic skill lines a while ago and I read the tool tip for soul trap wrong, thinking it was completely OP. I actually stuck it on my bar then started complaining how tanky people were because my soul trap was doing no damage.
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✭MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »
They should give it a morph that gives you 9% stamina back each time the effected player dodge rolls. That would be hilarious.
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MalakithAlamahdi✭✭✭✭✭MalakithAlamahdi wrote: »
They should give it a morph that gives you 9% stamina back each time the effected player dodge rolls. That would be hilarious.
And 9% stam from every tick of RD on you
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Astanphaeus✭✭✭✭✭Bandit1215 wrote: »/ignore
This skill can't kill people on its own, unlike SOME skills *cough* RD *cough cough*. Poison injection only ASSISTS in getting the kill along with other DPS abilities. Keep your health up so it doesnt do increased damage or purge it. Sounds like an L2P issue.
If you are dying to R and only RD, then there is something severely wrong with your playstyle and/or build.0
