Stamina Nightblade gear

Faulgor

Hey guys, I was looking for some stamblade guides but couldn't find anything up to date or without the words Velidreth and Viper in them.
So I was wondering what setup you'd recommend for a DW/bow stamblade.

Eternal Hunt is suggested quite often, but I'm not sure how this is best utilized.
Clever Alchemist seems quite costly, but without 2H I'd probably have to use weapon power potions anyway.
Night Mother's Gaze is what I use in PvE, but requires crits to proc and won't help at all against shields.
Twice-Born Star is popular in PvE, but I've never seen suggested for PvP.

And what about traits - is impen as important for nightblades as other classes? Usually I wouldn't want to get hit at all.
If I used divines, what mundus should I use for PvP?
Or would well-fitted be more viable, especially in combination with Eternal Hunt?

Sorry for the stupid questions, but my experiences with playing NB in PvP have been shortlived and demotivating. I'd like to get some advice beforehand this time.

CapuchinSeven

Eternal Hunt is just as comical as Viper, on it's own it's not so bad but yeah, still kinda silly.

When I want to run stamina but not Viper and use a bow, I sometimes use Marksman, I think it's a sane set but in no way bad.

Faulgor

Marksman is not a bad choice, but I already have it on my Stamplar and would like to use something else here. Especially my agility set which is collecting dust in the bank.

Currently I'm thinking about 3x Agility Jewelry, 5x Eternal Hunt and 4x Clever Alchemist on the DW bar; 3x Eternal Hunt and 5x Clever Alchemist on the bow bar. But I'm still not sure about traits.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Faulgor wrote: »

Marksman is not a bad choice, but I already have it on my Stamplar and would like to use something else here. Especially my agility set which is collecting dust in the bank.

Currently I'm thinking about 3x Agility Jewelry, 5x Eternal Hunt and 4x Clever Alchemist on the DW bar; 3x Eternal Hunt and 5x Clever Alchemist on the bow bar. But I'm still not sure about traits.

I don't recommend divines in Pvp. Unless your a pure ganker stacking crit.

I recommend well fitted or impen, can combine if you wish.

zuto40

5 red mountain, 2 velidreth, 5 viper you scumbag

Master_Kas

2 veli, 5 viper, 5 eternal hunt.

Now you become a good player, you're welcome.

setup:
head: veli
shoulder: veli

gloves: eternal hunt
legs: eternal hunt
feet: eternal hunt
waist: eternal hunt
jack: viper

neck: viper
ring: viper
ring: viper

2h: viper
bow: eternal hunt

kadar

1) I didn't realize people liked viper so much.
2) Yeh, Velidreth. Damn smiff hit me with a 9k proc the other day...

Faulgor wrote: »

Hey guys, I was looking for some stamblade guides but couldn't find anything up to date or without the words Velidreth and Viper in them.
So I was wondering what setup you'd recommend for a DW/bow stamblade.

Eternal Hunt is suggested quite often, but I'm not sure how this is best utilized.
Clever Alchemist seems quite costly, but without 2H I'd probably have to use weapon power potions anyway.
Night Mother's Gaze is what I use in PvE, but requires crits to proc and won't help at all against shields.
Twice-Born Star is popular in PvE, but I've never seen suggested for PvP.

And what about traits - is impen as important for nightblades as other classes? Usually I wouldn't want to get hit at all.
If I used divines, what mundus should I use for PvP?
Or would well-fitted be more viable, especially in combination with Eternal Hunt?

Sorry for the stupid questions, but my experiences with playing NB in PvP have been shortlived and demotivating. I'd like to get some advice beforehand this time.

Impen is just as important on a NB. The exception is if you're a ganker-only playstyle and don't mind dying when you get seen (cause you will). The defensive value you'll get from at least 4 pieces of impen is far greater than the small amount of stats you could get from divines. There have been maths done on this that you could find if you dig hard enough.

As far as a 5 piece, I still use 5 Shield Breaker pretty often. It's a really cheap option if you're not sure what to get. Only costs 25k Tel Var for the whole purple set in impen. The 2/3/4 pc is perfect for PVP (more damage than Eternal Hunt) and the 5 piece is great in the Magicka shield meta. ~2300 True damage through a shield (sorcs, dks, healthplars).

PurifedBladez

3x agility
5x hunding
1x veli/ bloodspawn
1x kena
2x leki sharp wd/disease or maelstrom
1x maelstrom bow

I'd use impen.

Dw bar - steel tornado, vigor, shrouded daggers, surprise attack, mass hysteria, incap or dawnbreaker

Bow - poison injection, the scatter shot morph that heals you when it ends, shuffle, cloak, relentless focus. Ult doesn't really matter although I'd use dawnbreaker here.

This build can scrap, you dont have to be a ganker.

Serpent stone

SJD_Phoenix

Viper and EH is my input too.

My DW heavies can hit for a combined 10-20k when viper procs. I've even seen a friend of mine one bang someone with over 20k health from stealth with viper. Nice set.

Xvorg

I'm theoycrafting 5 NMG and 5 shieldbraker for 1T

BruhItsOver9000

5 black rose 5 viper 1 kena.

joe.smith21b14_ESO

The_Outsider wrote: »

1) I didn't realize people liked viper so much.
2) Yeh, Velidreth. Damn smiff hit me with a 9k proc the other day...

Faulgor wrote: »

Hey guys, I was looking for some stamblade guides but couldn't find anything up to date or without the words Velidreth and Viper in them.
So I was wondering what setup you'd recommend for a DW/bow stamblade.

Eternal Hunt is suggested quite often, but I'm not sure how this is best utilized.
Clever Alchemist seems quite costly, but without 2H I'd probably have to use weapon power potions anyway.
Night Mother's Gaze is what I use in PvE, but requires crits to proc and won't help at all against shields.
Twice-Born Star is popular in PvE, but I've never seen suggested for PvP.

And what about traits - is impen as important for nightblades as other classes? Usually I wouldn't want to get hit at all.
If I used divines, what mundus should I use for PvP?
Or would well-fitted be more viable, especially in combination with Eternal Hunt?

Sorry for the stupid questions, but my experiences with playing NB in PvP have been shortlived and demotivating. I'd like to get some advice beforehand this time.

Impen is just as important on a NB. The exception is if you're a ganker-only playstyle and don't mind dying when you get seen (cause you will). The defensive value you'll get from at least 4 pieces of impen is far greater than the small amount of stats you could get from divines. There have been maths done on this that you could find if you dig hard enough.

As far as a 5 piece, I still use 5 Shield Breaker pretty often. It's a really cheap option if you're not sure what to get. Only costs 25k Tel Var for the whole purple set in impen. The 2/3/4 pc is perfect for PVP (more damage than Eternal Hunt) and the 5 piece is great in the Magicka shield meta. ~2300 True damage through a shield (sorcs, dks, healthplars).

This smiff guy sounds pretty amazing I'm pretty sure he's got like 2k crit resist though.

CallMeBigPapi

vicecanon + viper= wargasm

Jaiden

5 Widowmaker + 5 viper + 2 velidreth = lulz.

kadar

joe.smith21b14_ESO wrote: »

The_Outsider wrote: »

1) I didn't realize people liked viper so much.
2) Yeh, Velidreth. Damn smiff hit me with a 9k proc the other day...

Faulgor wrote: »

Hey guys, I was looking for some stamblade guides but couldn't find anything up to date or without the words Velidreth and Viper in them.
So I was wondering what setup you'd recommend for a DW/bow stamblade.

Eternal Hunt is suggested quite often, but I'm not sure how this is best utilized.
Clever Alchemist seems quite costly, but without 2H I'd probably have to use weapon power potions anyway.
Night Mother's Gaze is what I use in PvE, but requires crits to proc and won't help at all against shields.
Twice-Born Star is popular in PvE, but I've never seen suggested for PvP.

And what about traits - is impen as important for nightblades as other classes? Usually I wouldn't want to get hit at all.
If I used divines, what mundus should I use for PvP?
Or would well-fitted be more viable, especially in combination with Eternal Hunt?

Sorry for the stupid questions, but my experiences with playing NB in PvP have been shortlived and demotivating. I'd like to get some advice beforehand this time.

Impen is just as important on a NB. The exception is if you're a ganker-only playstyle and don't mind dying when you get seen (cause you will). The defensive value you'll get from at least 4 pieces of impen is far greater than the small amount of stats you could get from divines. There have been maths done on this that you could find if you dig hard enough.

As far as a 5 piece, I still use 5 Shield Breaker pretty often. It's a really cheap option if you're not sure what to get. Only costs 25k Tel Var for the whole purple set in impen. The 2/3/4 pc is perfect for PVP (more damage than Eternal Hunt) and the 5 piece is great in the Magicka shield meta. ~2300 True damage through a shield (sorcs, dks, healthplars).

This smiff guy sounds pretty amazing I'm pretty sure he's got like 2k crit resist though.

Mmm he's aight. He just surprised me is all.
First time I'd noticed such a large proc from Veli, lol.

CapuchinSeven

There is no other set in the game other than Viper. It's the only stamina set worth wearing if you want it easy mode. Slot it with anything else and you git gud.

runningtings

My setup is

DW:
5 Hundings - Armour
2 Lekis - Head and Neck
1 Velidreth - Shoulder
3 Agility - Hammers and Ring
1 Marksmans - Ring

Bow:
5 Hundings - Armour
3 Lekis - Head and Neck, Bow
1 Velidreth - Shoulder
1 Agility - Ring
1 Marksmans - Ring

Impen armour, Robust jewellery, Sharpened weapons.

Would like to get Velidreth Helm and another Agility Ring ideally.

I change my skills bar depending on whether its PVE, PVP,, dungeons or trials.

kadar

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

There is no other set in the game other than Viper. It's the only stamina set worth wearing if you want it easy mode. Slot it with anything else and you git gud.

Why is Viper better than anything else?

CapuchinSeven

The_Outsider wrote: »

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

There is no other set in the game other than Viper. It's the only stamina set worth wearing if you want it easy mode. Slot it with anything else and you git gud.

Why is Viper better than anything else?

It turns the game into easy mode to be honest, the argument for magic is that it's meant to have better sustain BUT when I slot viper I can fit my stamina build out with almost nothing but regen and stop worrying about weapon damage.

Attack and BAM 6k damage, get even a little lucky and at this point you've maybe just done 10k+ with your opening attacks, tap away at them and count to 4 in your head and BAM hit them again with your best available burst attack and again you've got another 6k for free on top of whatever attack you just did if you know what you're doing.

My main trick was to fit Eternal Hunt, dodge roll into them, BAM 6k hit and a stun from Hunts turn around and hit again from cloak, instant crit Surprise Attack (or Incapacitating Strike) and another 6k on top of it from LA from Viper. Hate tell follows.

I'm not kidding here, I've actually considered slotting Viper on my Magic Nightblade, honestly I've actually wondered how that would work out because Viper doesn't scale with your stats, it'd still do the same damage. I honestly think the set does so much of the work for you I could still make it worth without worrying about respecing out of magic.

Tylersoh

5 Eternal Hunt, 4 Morkuldin, and 3 agility. Legs chest and helm infused and everything else divines. Weapons sharpened

Curtdogg47

I still Run 5 Hundings Rage, 3 agility, 1 Kena and either 2 leki's or 2 marksman. It's a pretty simple and basic setup but works great.

Metemsycosis

5 hundings
1 blood spawn or 1 kena
5 skirmisher or 4 lekis
2 or 3 endurance

6 impen 1 infused
2 heavy 5 medium

- Wood elf (20% recovery) werewolf (15% recovery) merciless resolve (8 % recovery) plus whirling blades (20% recovery).

omgiztim

Jaiden wrote: »

5 Widowmaker + 5 viper + 2 velidreth = lulz.

I'm currenlty running this and its hillarious the amount of damage you put out. On bow i use 2 dot / stam drain poison and on dw i use stun/stam drain.

Snip + light attack +poison injection = 3 dots, widow and a viper process. If not dead, ambush and killers blade will usually process veldrith, widow or viper again.

I also like that veldrith has a 28 meter range. Although slow and dodgeable it often does hit people. Wth next dlc, ill try selene set. Should hit better than veldrith.

SilentBoomstick

Faulgor wrote: »

Hey guys, I was looking for some stamblade guides but couldn't find anything up to date or without the words Velidreth and Viper in them.
So I was wondering what setup you'd recommend for a DW/bow stamblade.

Eternal Hunt is suggested quite often, but I'm not sure how this is best utilized.
Clever Alchemist seems quite costly, but without 2H I'd probably have to use weapon power potions anyway.
Night Mother's Gaze is what I use in PvE, but requires crits to proc and won't help at all against shields.
Twice-Born Star is popular in PvE, but I've never seen suggested for PvP.

And what about traits - is impen as important for nightblades as other classes? Usually I wouldn't want to get hit at all.
If I used divines, what mundus should I use for PvP?
Or would well-fitted be more viable, especially in combination with Eternal Hunt?

Sorry for the stupid questions, but my experiences with playing NB in PvP have been shortlived and demotivating. I'd like to get some advice beforehand this time.

I have a few ideas. One is a perma stealth build with 5 clever alchemist 2 molag keena maelstrom 2h bow and agility jewlrey. Then another set could be 5 hundings, clever alchemist, rage 5 vipers and maelstrom weapons.
Last would be a really old set up that I use which is 5 hundings 3 agility 1 pc keena 1 pc bloodspawn and maelstrom 2h mace and bow sharpened. I try other builds sometimes when I get bored of my main build. All I do is just put the armor on and go.

SilentBoomstick

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

The_Outsider wrote: »

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

There is no other set in the game other than Viper. It's the only stamina set worth wearing if you want it easy mode. Slot it with anything else and you git gud.

Why is Viper better than anything else?

It turns the game into easy mode to be honest, the argument for magic is that it's meant to have better sustain BUT when I slot viper I can fit my stamina build out with almost nothing but regen and stop worrying about weapon damage.

Attack and BAM 6k damage, get even a little lucky and at this point you've maybe just done 10k+ with your opening attacks, tap away at them and count to 4 in your head and BAM hit them again with your best available burst attack and again you've got another 6k for free on top of whatever attack you just did if you know what you're doing.

My main trick was to fit Eternal Hunt, dodge roll into them, BAM 6k hit and a stun from Hunts turn around and hit again from cloak, instant crit Surprise Attack (or Incapacitating Strike) and another 6k on top of it from LA from Viper. Hate tell follows.

I'm not kidding here, I've actually considered slotting Viper on my Magic Nightblade, honestly I've actually wondered how that would work out because Viper doesn't scale with your stats, it'd still do the same damage. I honestly think the set does so much of the work for you I could still make it worth without worrying about respecing out of magic.

I don't know about that. I ran into this one nightblade that I kept using detection pots on and he kept hitting me with vipers sting for like 1.7k. But he kept killing me because he hit me with 3 different attacks (hoarvers exploison, vipers sting, then heavy attack plus animation cancel surprise attack then incap, smh). My point is I don't think vipers sting is that powerful if the only amount of damage that it does is 1.7k.

HonourXL

i could make 5 viper 5 widowmaker and 2 velidreth. but i dont want to get hate messages lol.