Undaunted skill line ultimate

Asardes

All skill lines will have an ultimate in update 12, except Undaunted. Also this skill has only 9 ranks, while most others have 50 and the guild, alliance war and werewolf have 10. Actually I believe Undaunted was meant to have 10 as well at the outset, because I saw that on my main it leveled to 9.15 and was stuck there. The number of passives is very small too, and none of them have real group utility - Undaunted Command gives back stamina, magicka and health when activating a synergy but none gives something back to the group, for example a buff. I would like to see an increase to rank 10, which will unlock both another passive ability and an ultimate skill, preferably with group utility.

Should the Undaunted skill line receive a new Ultimate and/or passive ability? Give your thoughts on how the new abilities should actually look like.

bebynnag

Yes, add both an ultimate and passive abilities to the Undaunted skill line

i have made this suggestion before, so i completley agree
i feel the undaunted ultimate should (un-morphed) boosts the group in some way, i tend to lean towards a flat recovery increase, which will stack with the groups major/minor buffs

once morphed you then have 2 options, that both maintain the original group buff

option 1 for tanks. mitigation was my original suggetion, but this seems to be covered by the sword/board ult, i think the ultimate should benefit tanks in dundgeons trials more than in PvP (because it is an undaunted skill line) so im leaning towards some kind of taunt - not an AOE catch all taunt (because that seems quite unpopular)

option 2 for healer. as well as offering increased recovery it now & gives flat resource return (health, magic & stam)

Asardes

Yes, add both an ultimate and passive abilities to the Undaunted skill line

Right now there is a group buff - war horn - sturdy horn from the assault line, which is a morph basically nobody takes because it's downright bad compared to the alternative - offers minor ward and minor resolve to allies instead of major force - aggressive horn is the only way to get that. Minor ward and resolve buffs can be gotten by blessing of protection and its morphs, which is a normal skill from the restoration staff line. Radiant aura from the Templar skill line grants minor fortitude, intellect and endurance for 20s upon activation, but the other morph, repentance, is much more attractive because it's free - uses only the dead - but doesn't grant magicka recovery. Sorcerer ultimate absorption field grants major fortitude, intellect and endurance for 12s. Good group shields are granted by magma shell DK skill and barrier skill from the support line. So I think the ultimate should offer something unique, that helps the group and can't be gotten from other class, guild or alliance war ultimate abilities.

notimetocare

Yes, add an ultimate ability to Undaunted skill line

As long as it is not a useless aoe taunt

Chew_Magna

*Activates ultimate

*Everyone starts singing

Silver_Strider

Yes, add both an ultimate and passive abilities to the Undaunted skill line

I would love for the Unduanted Skill line to have an extra passive and Ultimate because the majority of the skill line is underwhelming to say the least and could really use a boost.

I'm not entirely sure what the Ultimate could be though. Other than being about Synergies, the entire undaunted skill line is mostly support abilities with no real...well, synergy between them all. That makes designing a new Ultimate is pretty much whatever the creator wanted it to be, so long as it involved or had a synergy.

Asardes

Yes, add both an ultimate and passive abilities to the Undaunted skill line

As for the passive, I'm thinking about something that either increases your probability if synergyzing skills or the probability that others synergize your skill by 5/10%.

Smasherx74

How about a non-PVP major force ability? or maybe some sort of heals.

Asardes

Yes, add both an ultimate and passive abilities to the Undaunted skill line

There will be another source of major force from the healing staff ultimate morph Light's Champion. And war horn is not that hard to get. Assault rank 4 is ~40K AP if I'm not mistaken. I don't really see a need for another source of major force. I was thinking about another type of group buff, like short duration minor/major aegis/slayer, which are only available from trials only gear sets for the player that wears them ATM.

For example: Grant minor aegis to group for 10/11/12/13 s, and also minor slayer for 4/5/6/7 s to players that activate the synergy.

Toast_STS

I already know what it would be; 250 ulti cost and summons 5 blood altars around you. The different morphs will let you summon the different morphs of blood altar.

Asardes

Yes, add both an ultimate and passive abilities to the Undaunted skill line

Blood Altar is not a very good skill IMO. It's niche at best, working maybe in battles where there are lots of mobs which are stationary and everybody AoEs them. Having multiple altars wouldn't make much sense. In most cases Siphon Spirit from the restoration staff line is much better because it also restores magicka; it stacks with Elemental Drain from destruction staff and any competent healer will use both on bigger mobs and bosses, especially if there are other magicka DDs in group.

Osteos

Yes, add both an ultimate and passive abilities to the Undaunted skill line

While they are at it, the first 2 abilities blood altar and trapping webs could use some rework. I don't know anyone that uses them.

NBrookus

Yes, add an ultimate ability to Undaunted skill line

Tangling webs used to be used by DW sorcs as a spammable.

I agree any Undaunted ult should be a group buff. Or maybe an AoE debuff?

Vaoh

Yes, add both an ultimate and passive abilities to the Undaunted skill line

Yes. Absolutely 100% yes.

I'm sure it'll happen eventually. My only hope it that the future Undaunted Ult and new passives are strong, balanced, AND look cool.

DocFrost72

Yes, add an ultimate ability to Undaunted skill line

"Undaunted Spirit- 200 ultimate

For 20 seconds, up to 12 allies have increased stamina, health, and magicka recovery. Affected allies may activate a synergy that lets their basic attacks restore 2% of their max magicka or stamina for ten seconds.

Morph: Undaunted Ghoul

In addition to increased recovery, allies gain major vampirism, returning 10% of the damage they deal as healing done. In addition, basic attacks from the synergy now restore 5% of max stamina and magicka each.

Morph: Undaunted Conqueror

Activating the "Undaunted!" synergy now also charges the spirit of the Undaunted within each warrior. After this ultimate's effect ends, every player that activated the synergy will channel their stored energy out explosively, with damage increasing based on the number of people who activated the synergy. The explosion cannot be dodged or blocked."

CultOfMMO

requires 1000 ulti

summons an undaunted chest key

ZOS PLEASE!!!

BohnT

Rise of the Undaunted
400 Ultimate
You and your group gain Major slayer and aegis for 5 seconds increasing your damage dealt and decreasing your damage received by enemies in dungeons by 20%
Every ally can activate the motivation synergy to increase the duration by 2 seconds ( capped at 5 allies)

Morph 1 Activating the synergy grants major lifesteal healing you for 15% of you damage done

Morph 2 Activating the synergy increases the duration by 4 seconds

Strider_Roshin

Yes, add an ultimate ability to Undaunted skill line

I think it should be the most powerful PvE ultimate in the game. And in order to keep with the theme of the undaunted skill line, it should act like a ticking time bomb; where it has a delayed attack that increases in strength as more people synergize with it. making It meh in PvP, excellent in dungeons, and monstrous in trials.

Morgul667

Yes, add both an ultimate and passive abilities to the Undaunted skill line

Would be great to have more passive and ultimate :-) Feels like it should be some good group support things

Asardes

Yes, add both an ultimate and passive abilities to the Undaunted skill line

CultOfMMO wrote: »

requires 1000 ulti

summons an undaunted chest key

ZOS PLEASE!!!

Or increase your chance of getting divines armor or sharpened weapon in boss/chest loot by 100% for 30 seconds. It would be a netch light attack carnage at the Mournhold gates