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An overhaul of the stats

WikileaksEU
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There is unbalance between magicka and stamina, and health is rarely even put points into. There needs to be an overhaul of the stat system. What can we do? why no hybrid potential? Increase potential builds and playstyles?

What we need in ESO is a much more wider variety of playstyles and builds. People need to say "Is that possible? I had no idea! I want to try it out" even after years of playing the game. That's what makes a game fun to play for a very long time. New ways to build your character, new ways to play your character and new ways to change your character. Something like Path of Exile.

What can Zenimax do to change this into something that always excites us.

/We need to end meta mentality
  • Daemons_Bane
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    Aaaaand here we go again :blush:
  • KochDerDamonen
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    Well, the problem with health is that you can artificially simulate having more health through various means, such as dodge chance or shielding. This means become stronger or more reliable to use with more stamina or magicka. There is very few ways to simulate having more damage through health, blazing shield comes to mind.

    Plus, no fixing that would not 'end the meta mentality'. Path of Exile has metas, any game where you have options in your setup has metas. Card games, RPGs, shooters given variable loadouts--you name it. The only way for there to be no meta, would be for every single thing to be so low numerically and simple that any choice you could make is effectively cosmetic. A meta would form over a .1% improvement in effectiveness ^^;
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    It has been suggested numerous times that Health secondarily aid defense via damage mitigation the way Magicka and Stamina aid their damage output. It is also glaringly obvious the gap between Magicka and Stamina competitive DPS is ever-growing in favor of Stamina. This is true...
    Aaaaand here we go again :blush:

    ...and yet so understandable. And I'm not even competitive!
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on September 3, 2016 9:07PM
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  • Daemons_Bane
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    Oh I do understand.. I just always wonder why there needs to be made a NEW thread instead of keeping the discussion to only 1-2 of them :smile:
  • Wifeaggro13
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    There is unbalance between magicka and stamina, and health is rarely even put points into. There needs to be an overhaul of the stat system. What can we do? why no hybrid potential? Increase potential builds and playstyles?

    What we need in ESO is a much more wider variety of playstyles and builds. People need to say "Is that possible? I had no idea! I want to try it out" even after years of playing the game. That's what makes a game fun to play for a very long time. New ways to build your character, new ways to play your character and new ways to change your character. Something like Path of Exile.

    What can Zenimax do to change this into something that always excites us.

    /We need to end meta mentality
    That wont happen while fights are designed around DPS. 1 hard taunt tank just keep the boss debuffed and run what group buff you can
    No true CC no true support skill lines. heals and DPS.
  • ColoursYouHave
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    Softcaps.

    The two things that broke this game were removing softcaps, and creating the power creep champion system. They're not going to remove the CP system because they've already invested so much into it, but they can still at least fix one of these issues.
  • UltimaJoe777
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    Oh I do understand.. I just always wonder why there needs to be made a NEW thread instead of keeping the discussion to only 1-2 of them :smile:

    Because according to Zenimax logic we are allowed to make 1 if the last 1 is at least a few days old and not being bumped :p
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  • WikileaksEU
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    Oh I do understand.. I just always wonder why there needs to be made a NEW thread instead of keeping the discussion to only 1-2 of them :smile:

    Not everyone keeps up with every thread. Anyway, it's a sign that the same topic always repeats itself on the forum. It needs to be addressed, clearly. It's one of the biggest problems in the game.
  • Daemons_Bane
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    Oh I do understand.. I just always wonder why there needs to be made a NEW thread instead of keeping the discussion to only 1-2 of them :smile:

    Not everyone keeps up with every thread. Anyway, it's a sign that the same topic always repeats itself on the forum. It needs to be addressed, clearly. It's one of the biggest problems in the game.

    Indeed they don't, but the search button is pretty smart :wink: lets you see if the subject has been discussed recently.. Furthermore, I'm not sure it's that big a deal :)

  • stevepdodson_ESO888
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    Softcaps.

    The two things that broke this game were removing softcaps, and creating the power creep champion system. They're not going to remove the CP system because they've already invested so much into it, but they can still at least fix one of these issues.

    +1
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    oh, and +1 again
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