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How to Find Small Scale PVP
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Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yeah this happends all the time, Cyrodiil is AvAvA zone and we all need to accept this very fast. There is very little space for small scale PvP and 1v1 builds... Thats why we have IC
You can find there 1v1 and 1v2/3 very often Say no to Toxic Casuals!
I am doing my best, but I am not a native speaker, sorry.
"Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 24 DLCs. 40 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game." - @AlexanderDeLarge2 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yeah this happends all the time, Cyrodiil is AvAvA zone and we all need to accept this very fast. There is very little space for small scale PvP and 1v1 builds... Thats why we have IC You can find there 1v1 and 1v2/3 very often
IC isn't in small scale zone, baddie zerglings still flood that place as well.PS4 EU DC
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I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...8 -
Jules✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yeah this happends all the time, Cyrodiil is AvAvA zone and we all need to accept this very fast. There is very little space for small scale PvP and 1v1 builds... Thats why we have IC You can find there 1v1 and 1v2/3 very often
@Mayrael
Too bad that for 1, there's no reason to go there besides 2x telvar week and 2, it's saturated in PVE mobs everywhere you turn. It's not a true PVP zone as it doesn't have meaningful pvp objectives or leaderboards and there's no max cap on group size so zergs just frequent there too.
Cyrodiil is big enough for all styles of gameplay. Moving the entire community in the direction of "ZvZ or gtfo" is a very dangerous thing indeed. Especially considering how the servers handle large group warfare.3 -
Psilent✭✭✭✭✭Yeah this happends all the time, Cyrodiil is AvAvA zone and we all need to accept this very fast. There is very little space for small scale PvP and 1v1 builds... Thats why we have IC You can find there 1v1 and 1v2/3 very often
@Mayrael
Too bad that for 1, there's no reason to go there besides 2x telvar week and 2, it's saturated in PVE mobs everywhere you turn. It's not a true PVP zone as it doesn't have meaningful pvp objectives or leaderboards and there's no max cap on group size so zergs just frequent there too.
Cyrodiil is big enough for all styles of gameplay. Moving the entire community in the direction of "ZvZ or gtfo" is a very dangerous thing indeed. Especially considering how the servers handle large group warfare.
The servers have been handling the larger battles very well since Shadows of the Hist was released a few weeks ago. Highest my ping has been in prime time was around 220, which is better than most Oceanic players, average ping is around 110.
The mobs in IC are a joke now; quite literally you can spam brawler and wreck them in a few swings.
I've had quite a few fun small scale fights around the flags in IC. The problem is if you make those objectives a part of the scoreboard it'll attract even more large groups.
Overall, the PvP experience in ESO is one, if not, the best in any game. Spent a lot of time in Arenas and Battlegrounds in other games and by far Cyrodiil AvAvA is the best. (Never played DAOC).
Just gotta except the fact that if your a smaller group, every battle is the Alamo!!!0 -
KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭Yeah this happends all the time, Cyrodiil is AvAvA zone and we all need to accept this very fast. There is very little space for small scale PvP and 1v1 builds... Thats why we have IC You can find there 1v1 and 1v2/3 very often
@Mayrael
Too bad that for 1, there's no reason to go there besides 2x telvar week and 2, it's saturated in PVE mobs everywhere you turn. It's not a true PVP zone as it doesn't have meaningful pvp objectives or leaderboards and there's no max cap on group size so zergs just frequent there too.
Cyrodiil is big enough for all styles of gameplay. Moving the entire community in the direction of "ZvZ or gtfo" is a very dangerous thing indeed. Especially considering how the servers handle large group warfare.
The servers have been handling the larger battles very well since Shadows of the Hist was released a few weeks ago. Highest my ping has been in prime time was around 220, which is better than most Oceanic players, average ping is around 110.
The mobs in IC are a joke now; quite literally you can spam brawler and wreck them in a few swings.
I've had quite a few fun small scale fights around the flags in IC. The problem is if you make those objectives a part of the scoreboard it'll attract even more large groups.
Overall, the PvP experience in ESO is one, if not, the best in any game. Spent a lot of time in Arenas and Battlegrounds in other games and by far Cyrodiil AvAvA is the best. (Never played DAOC).
Just gotta except the fact that if your a smaller group, every battle is the Alamo!!!
Please...
e: Not sure about PC NA but PC EU the ping was fine in prime time for a week maybe, then it was back to the usual (unplayable). From watching streams, it looks similar in PC NA but yeah.Edited by KisoValley on September 1, 2016 2:59PM0 -
KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭Yeah this happends all the time, Cyrodiil is AvAvA zone and we all need to accept this very fast. There is very little space for small scale PvP and 1v1 builds... Thats why we have IC You can find there 1v1 and 1v2/3 very often
I'm sorry, but if people prefer to play solo/small scale they should be able to find it.1 -
kevlarto_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Group based game in cyrodiil, Dueling will be out next month then you can 1v1 until the cows come home.
in AVAVA you can be killed by one or by 50 that's the way it is, like they say,, some days you eat the bear some days the bear eats you.. /shrug
Some days I walk out of a keep and get rolled by 40 EP, oh well I should have looked before I crossed the road lol.
That's what they advertised this game to be large scale, plenty of other games out there with small scale mini games.Edited by kevlarto_ESO on September 1, 2016 3:02PM4 -
Psilent✭✭✭✭✭KisoValley wrote: »Yeah this happends all the time, Cyrodiil is AvAvA zone and we all need to accept this very fast. There is very little space for small scale PvP and 1v1 builds... Thats why we have IC You can find there 1v1 and 1v2/3 very often
I'm sorry, but if people prefer to play solo/small scale they should be able to find it.
What does this mean, "Should be able to find it?" It's everywhere, you just can't control if the guy will call for help.
Case in point, a week ago or so I had 4 well known 1vX players attacking me. I asked for assistance in TS and we killed them. Was I wrong to call for aid because those players wanted a 4v1 instead of a 4v15?4 -
RadioheadSh0t✭✭✭✭✭Any organized group with voice chat that chases down one person has terrible leadership.
When I streak away and a full group chases me down, that group needs a better lead and to reevaluate their strategies. Any group wasting their time with one player certainly can't be disciplined enough to go toe-to-toe with skilled groups.
Back in the day in Decibel, we'd leave known 1vXers alone and you'd get yelled at for chasing down one guy. You cant have a raid full of dogs chasing squirrels and expect to be competitive.Aldonius Direnni - Vet Altmer Sorc (AD)
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_Chaos✭✭✭✭✭
✭Haxus does this exact thing to me solo every time, you get what you give cupcake'Chaos19 -
antihero727✭✭✭✭✭If you don't hunt everyone down they throw a foward camp and get to skip horse simulations. Your also known as a ce enabler & a streamer, they will hunt you without mercy. Sorry, we have all been hunted by waves of players. The day you put yourself out there as a streamer there was a large target on your back. The day that video came out with germ, you had the satellites tracking your every move in Cyrodiil. No hate, just the truth.Veldrn-AD Magica Sorc
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God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭The irony of this is...Haxus does this all the time. Their large groups run down ones and twos and pain train them and then t-bag them. It is what it is.
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Psilent✭✭✭✭✭RadioheadSh0t wrote: »Any organized group with voice chat that chases down one person has terrible leadership.
When I streak away and a full group chases me down, that group needs a better lead and to reevaluate their strategies. Any group wasting their time with one player certainly can't be disciplined enough to go toe-to-toe with skilled groups.
Back in the day in Decibel, we'd leave known 1vXers alone and you'd get yelled at for chasing down one guy. You cant have a raid full of dogs chasing squirrels and expect to be competitive.
Problem nowadays is 1vX players will lay down a camp and the 24 players my group just wiped Rez up.
Edited by Psilent on September 1, 2016 4:13PM3 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭antihero727 wrote: »If you don't hunt everyone down they throw a foward camp and get to skip horse simulations. Your also known as a ce enabler & a streamer, they will hunt you without mercy. Sorry, we have all been hunted by waves of players. The day you put yourself out there as a streamer there was a large target on your back. The day that video came out with germ, you had the satellites tracking your every move in Cyrodiil. No hate, just the truth.
Adding to this:
- DC regularly calls out Germans location. This is to ensure no pug faces him solo. Haven't seen him much in TF though.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
- Guild-lead for MV
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RadioheadSh0t✭✭✭✭✭RadioheadSh0t wrote: »Any organized group with voice chat that chases down one person has terrible leadership.
When I streak away and a full group chases me down, that group needs a better lead and to reevaluate their strategies. Any group wasting their time with one player certainly can't be disciplined enough to go toe-to-toe with skilled groups.
Back in the day in Decibel, we'd leave known 1vXers alone and you'd get yelled at for chasing down one guy. You cant have a raid full of dogs chasing squirrels and expect to be competitive.
Problem nowadays is 1vX players will lay down a camp and the 24 players my group just wiped Rez up.
Decibel played back in the day with blood port camps, so I'd be less concerned about camps now. What I'm mostly referring to is groups seeing one player off in the distance and chasing them down for no reason. I've had groups spot me from a distance, and 24 people spend five minutes running down one sorcerer. I know when I'm out playing solo, which is almost 100% of my PvP time, I'm not dropping camps for groups I don't know or don't care about. A group that spends 5 minutes chasing me down is a group that just wasted five minutes.
I'm out there looking for 1vX opportunities to kill 1 or more players. The only time I can see it being justified is with Bomb blades, because they're actively targeting your group.Aldonius Direnni - Vet Altmer Sorc (AD)
Tyrus Telvanni - Vet Dunmer DK (AD)
Al Donius Bundy - Vet Imperial NB (AD)
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Jules✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yeah this happends all the time, Cyrodiil is AvAvA zone and we all need to accept this very fast. There is very little space for small scale PvP and 1v1 builds... Thats why we have IC You can find there 1v1 and 1v2/3 very often
@Mayrael
Too bad that for 1, there's no reason to go there besides 2x telvar week and 2, it's saturated in PVE mobs everywhere you turn. It's not a true PVP zone as it doesn't have meaningful pvp objectives or leaderboards and there's no max cap on group size so zergs just frequent there too.
Cyrodiil is big enough for all styles of gameplay. Moving the entire community in the direction of "ZvZ or gtfo" is a very dangerous thing indeed. Especially considering how the servers handle large group warfare.
The servers have been handling the larger battles very well since Shadows of the Hist was released a few weeks ago. Highest my ping has been in prime time was around 220, which is better than most Oceanic players, average ping is around 110.
The mobs in IC are a joke now; quite literally you can spam brawler and wreck them in a few swings.
I've had quite a few fun small scale fights around the flags in IC. The problem is if you make those objectives a part of the scoreboard it'll attract even more large groups.
Overall, the PvP experience in ESO is one, if not, the best in any game. Spent a lot of time in Arenas and Battlegrounds in other games and by far Cyrodiil AvAvA is the best. (Never played DAOC).
Just gotta except the fact that if your a smaller group, every battle is the Alamo!!!
But like... People actually use brawler..?1 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Umm you are in a path where AD and EP fight faction vs faction constantly , looking for small scale . Not being rude but I thought you were a experienced player here .
If I want small scale I go to a resource away from everyone and fight awhile until it becomes too busy . This is only comical because of the place you've chosen .11 -
Jules✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Umm you are in a path where AD and EP fight faction vs faction constantly , looking for small scale . Not being rude but I thought you were a experienced player here .
If I want small scale I go to a resource away from everyone and fight awhile until it becomes too busy . This is only comical because of the place you've chosen .
You do realize that in order to get to those places one has to travel through highly concentrated areas, right? Idk about you but I don't just magically appear at resources.1 -
Psilent✭✭✭✭✭Yeah this happends all the time, Cyrodiil is AvAvA zone and we all need to accept this very fast. There is very little space for small scale PvP and 1v1 builds... Thats why we have IC You can find there 1v1 and 1v2/3 very often
@Mayrael
Too bad that for 1, there's no reason to go there besides 2x telvar week and 2, it's saturated in PVE mobs everywhere you turn. It's not a true PVP zone as it doesn't have meaningful pvp objectives or leaderboards and there's no max cap on group size so zergs just frequent there too.
Cyrodiil is big enough for all styles of gameplay. Moving the entire community in the direction of "ZvZ or gtfo" is a very dangerous thing indeed. Especially considering how the servers handle large group warfare.
The servers have been handling the larger battles very well since Shadows of the Hist was released a few weeks ago. Highest my ping has been in prime time was around 220, which is better than most Oceanic players, average ping is around 110.
The mobs in IC are a joke now; quite literally you can spam brawler and wreck them in a few swings.
I've had quite a few fun small scale fights around the flags in IC. The problem is if you make those objectives a part of the scoreboard it'll attract even more large groups.
Overall, the PvP experience in ESO is one, if not, the best in any game. Spent a lot of time in Arenas and Battlegrounds in other games and by far Cyrodiil AvAvA is the best. (Never played DAOC).
Just gotta except the fact that if your a smaller group, every battle is the Alamo!!!
But like... People actually use brawler..?
Haha, I've been using it non-stop in PvE delves to get skyshards on my NB. Auto-walk and spam brawler and all mobs die in two hits, 1 If Velidreth procs and clears a path for me. :P
Would I use this skill in PvP... Lol0 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Umm you are in a path where AD and EP fight faction vs faction constantly , looking for small scale . Not being rude but I thought you were a experienced player here .
If I want small scale I go to a resource away from everyone and fight awhile until it becomes too busy . This is only comical because of the place you've chosen .
You do realize that in order to get to those places one has to travel through highly concentrated areas, right? Idk about you but I don't just magically appear at resources.
This hook doesn't look too dangerous ...
Go around that area .13 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yeah this happends all the time, Cyrodiil is AvAvA zone and we all need to accept this very fast. There is very little space for small scale PvP and 1v1 builds... Thats why we have IC You can find there 1v1 and 1v2/3 very often
@Mayrael
Too bad that for 1, there's no reason to go there besides 2x telvar week and 2, it's saturated in PVE mobs everywhere you turn. It's not a true PVP zone as it doesn't have meaningful pvp objectives or leaderboards and there's no max cap on group size so zergs just frequent there too.
Cyrodiil is big enough for all styles of gameplay. Moving the entire community in the direction of "ZvZ or gtfo" is a very dangerous thing indeed. Especially considering how the servers handle large group warfare.
The servers have been handling the larger battles very well since Shadows of the Hist was released a few weeks ago. Highest my ping has been in prime time was around 220, which is better than most Oceanic players, average ping is around 110.
The mobs in IC are a joke now; quite literally you can spam brawler and wreck them in a few swings.
I've had quite a few fun small scale fights around the flags in IC. The problem is if you make those objectives a part of the scoreboard it'll attract even more large groups.
Overall, the PvP experience in ESO is one, if not, the best in any game. Spent a lot of time in Arenas and Battlegrounds in other games and by far Cyrodiil AvAvA is the best. (Never played DAOC).
Just gotta except the fact that if your a smaller group, every battle is the Alamo!!!
But like... People actually use brawler..?
It gives you 949 dmg shield if you don't hit one person.
Hit 3 and it gives you a 2847 shield.
On its own it's a terrible dmg mitigation, but on paper that's 2847 dmg away from RD (not assuming you blocked). If RD is cast at full health, youll be hit by roughly 1k non crit spill dmg before your armor/impen effect the final number. This assumes your CP mitigation wasnt applied during the shield effect (which it always will).
It's primarily a pve tool for solo questing, but suggesting it's far from useless is an understatement, especially if used as a escape mechanic instead of a dmg.
I would test it's effective use if surrounded by 10 people, in conjunction with enough armor, Cp mitigation, dodge roll, elude, block, impen and vigor. If it works, you should be able to roll dodge to safety if zerged and go back to spamming jabs. If not, then it's strictly a pve tool.
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Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Also towns are good spots for small scale . Once in awhile a Zerg will rush in but not as often as resources or the main travel lines for raids battling . 2 -
Skitttles✭✭✭✭tbh sometimes it's just as fun to see if you can escape that.Skittles | DC Stem Sok and sumtimes Nertbled1 -
Rohaus✭✭✭✭✭@Jules
I seriously got a good laugh out of watching that video... I would have laughed even harder had those zergs just had a few peeps that would have tea bagged you.
I laugh because of how many times this has happened to me... and when it happens you are saying to yourself... WTF? SRSLY? The whole group had to kill ONE guy?
When I am running around the battlefield and I see ONE dude getting beat on by more than a couple people, I leave that battle alone... UNLESS it is someone I despise... but there are very few people I despise... only tea baggers that zerged me down and then tea bagged me... OR... RD users... I hate RD more than anything I have ever hated in this game.
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