No Middle Ground for PvP

Magnex

Trueflame is a complete and utter zerg-fest 24/7 with no slow down or dip in population.
While Haderus is dead by 8pm est Monday through Thursday.
And Azura's, is just Azura's and most people can't be bothered with it.

The obvious solution is some kind of structured PvP, but that's even being talked about until next year.
Maybe adding another campaign would help, maybe it wouldn't. But the current campaign structure is pretty unstable and very unfun.

Magus

Magnex wrote: »

Trueflame is a complete and utter zerg-fest 24/7 with no slow down or dip in population.
While Haderus is dead by 8pm est Monday through Thursday.
And Azura's, is just Azura's and most people can't be bothered with it.

The obvious solution is some kind of structured PvP, but that's even being talked about until next year.
Maybe adding another campaign would help, maybe it wouldn't. But the current campaign structure is pretty unstable and very unfun.

There is a little hope. There seems to be a massive guild shake up in the works. Many of the TF guilds are moving to haderus. Hopefully, this doesn't mean that TF gets completely unbalanced. If say only a portion move from TF to haderus, then it could balance things out a bit. What is more likely to happen is that whatever faction gets spanked the hardest of those who are staying on TF, will leave and go faction stack on haderus because they don't like being outnumbered. Then all the people on haderus now, will move to trueflame but there will be people not in these guilds and not reading the forums who don't get the memo. There will be some good PVP for a few until someone posts on forums about how great the fights have been on X campaign, then everyone goes to X campaign and then the great fights are gone. This has been the ritual for the last two years.

fastolfv_ESO

players determine where they go, if people dont like smaller scale like you they avoid Had cause it can be dead, if they like larger fights and more people all around they go TF, Azuras never really got its footing and probly never will with its restrictions that nobody really wanted. Structured pvp isnt a solution to a large scale 3 alliance war pvp game, it more sounds like this isnt the game for you if the options are all not your thing

Magnex

Magus wrote: »

Magnex wrote: »

Trueflame is a complete and utter zerg-fest 24/7 with no slow down or dip in population.
While Haderus is dead by 8pm est Monday through Thursday.
And Azura's, is just Azura's and most people can't be bothered with it.

The obvious solution is some kind of structured PvP, but that's even being talked about until next year.
Maybe adding another campaign would help, maybe it wouldn't. But the current campaign structure is pretty unstable and very unfun.

There is a little hope. There seems to be a massive guild shake up in the works. Many of the TF guilds are moving to haderus. Hopefully, this doesn't mean that TF gets completely unbalanced. If say only a portion move from TF to haderus, then it could balance things out a bit. What is more likely to happen is that whatever faction gets spanked the hardest of those who are staying on TF, will leave and go faction stack on haderus because they don't like being outnumbered. Then all the people on haderus now, will move to trueflame but there will be people not in these guilds and not reading the forums who don't get the memo. There will be some good PVP for a few until someone posts on forums about how great the fights have been on X campaign, then everyone goes to X campaign and then the great fights are gone. This has been the ritual for the last two years.

Yep. The big guilds usually control the populations. Campaigns become unbalanced and the quality of the pvp suffers.

God_flakes

The remedy for playing on TF:



And I'm already stocked in prep for tonight.

Magnex

God_flakes wrote: »

The remedy for playing on TF:



And I'm already stocked in prep for tonight.

Not a bad solution. Although too much of the remedy and too much of Trueflame could result in a broken monitor for me personally.

God_flakes

Magnex wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

The remedy for playing on TF:



And I'm already stocked in prep for tonight.

Not a bad solution. Although too much of the remedy and too much of Trueflame could result in a broken monitor for me personally.

For me it's usually..."oh no what did I do/say?" the next morning.

kevlarto_ESO

Looking at the pops last night around 7pm eastern, Haderus had 3 bars of ep, 1 bar ad one bar dc, with more ep guilds going to haderus, I really hate to see what the que will be for ep on that campaign, Azura has been growing slowly I have seen it 3 bars across, Dc locked, while TF is pop locked across the board. The current state of campaigns is mess, I think being able to home all of your factions in one campaign contributes to this mess.

The game has a long way to go before structured pvp would even be fun, this cheat engine needs to go, exploits need to be buttoned down, broken game mechanics needs to be fixed, otherwise any type of small scale will be horrable and not fun to a lot of players as bad or worse than what we have now.

KenaPKK

Join Mighty, help make battlegrounds, problem solved.

NBrookus

kevlarto_ESO wrote: »

Looking at the pops last night around 7pm eastern, Haderus had 3 bars of ep, 1 bar ad one bar dc, with more ep guilds going to haderus, I really hate to see what the que will be for ep on that campaign, Azura has been growing slowly I have seen it 3 bars across, Dc locked, while TF is pop locked across the board.

At 9pm central the EP queue into Haderus was 70, AD was pop-locked and DC was at 3 bars. (And it seemed like a pretty distant 3 bars from the other factions.) I was experiencing episodes of lag, which is has been unusual for Haderus in the past. While I am glad AD showed up to Haderus, gate camping EP all afternoon was crappy behavior.

A friend told me the queue into TF for EP was 5.

Baconlad

Last night haderus Q was 107 for me at around 11pm eastern. While TF was only 7...sad thing was that when I finally got into haderus, EP couldn't hardly take one keep, and could barely defend what we have...shows that numbers aren't everything, I think we all know what guild I'm talking about...im EP BTW

altemriel

Magnex wrote: »

Trueflame is a complete and utter zerg-fest 24/7 with no slow down or dip in population.
While Haderus is dead by 8pm est Monday through Thursday.
And Azura's, is just Azura's and most people can't be bothered with it.

The obvious solution is some kind of structured PvP, but that's even being talked about until next year.
Maybe adding another campaign would help, maybe it wouldn't. But the current campaign structure is pretty unstable and very unfun.

I played on Trueflame during this weekend and it was super fun, many zerg groups, huge fights, I am a total noob in PVP, I died many many times, but it was still fun, good for practice in PVP