(BUGS) Breaking cloak, 2 things 100% confirmed.

olsborg

2 things specificly that i have 100% confirmed will break cloak is ambush/lotus fan. -If someone or you presses the ambush button right before your target cloaks, it will still travel too him, dmg him and break his cloak.

The other is dark flare, if you(the templar) starts casting dark flare (1s cast time) before your target cloaks, it will still travel to your target, dmg him and break his cloak.

Is this intended?

olsborg

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DPG76

as for the first , like you said if you hit ambush BEFORE he cloak's .. yes its normal

for the dark flare i don't know this ability , (never played as templar ) but i suppose this and whatever ability that interrupts or highlights invisible bEfore the cloack is normal or intended

just my taughts bro

edit ; the ambush looks more like a latency problem it seems if you still didn't hit m at once and interupted him

Berenhir

DeepPlayGamer wrote: »

as for the first , like you said if you hit ambush BEFORE he cloak's .. yes its normal

for the dark flare i don't know this ability , (never played as templar ) but i suppose this and whatever ability that interrupts or highlights invisible bEfore the cloack is normal or intended

just my taughts bro

edit ; the ambush looks more like a latency problem it seems if you still didn't hit m at once and interupted him

The usual behaviour of cloak is (was) that though you gap close, the actual hit is dodged.

Lotus Fan is a gap closer and AOE, so we can discuss this issue.
Ambush is just a gap closer and shouldnt break cloak.

If an attack broke cloak if it was casted before the guy cloaked, the ability would be totally useless as no one can cast an ability (other than an AOE) on someone not visible. And AOEs do break cloak.

Egonieser

Both abilities have AoE effects as secondary effects. The initial hit does not break cloak but the secondary effect does. It's not a bug, AoE (of any form) is supposed to break cloak, that is one of the counters to it, and it has been like this since forever. It's not a bug, it's not unintended, it works how it's supposed to work.

susmitds

Berenhir wrote: »

DeepPlayGamer wrote: »

as for the first , like you said if you hit ambush BEFORE he cloak's .. yes its normal

for the dark flare i don't know this ability , (never played as templar ) but i suppose this and whatever ability that interrupts or highlights invisible bEfore the cloack is normal or intended

just my taughts bro

edit ; the ambush looks more like a latency problem it seems if you still didn't hit m at once and interupted him

The usual behaviour of cloak is (was) that though you gap close, the actual hit is dodged.

Lotus Fan is a gap closer and AOE, so we can discuss this issue.
Ambush is just a gap closer and shouldnt break cloak.

If an attack broke cloak if it was casted before the guy cloaked, the ability would be totally useless as no one can cast an ability (other than an AOE) on someone not visible. And AOEs do break cloak.

Cloak dodges (or at least intended) all ranged abilities, melee abilities with a cast time and any ability that needs continuous line of sight like channels and casted abilities. Ambush is neither ranged, nor timed and only needs line of sight during the initial activation (which is why, it can chase players even after they go through doors). It may seem to have a small cast time, but actually it is an instant ability with an slightly long animations. So it is actually logical for Ambush to break cloak.

On the other hand, Dark Flare certainly should not break cloak, as it is ranged, has a cast time and requires constant line of sight. In fact, Snipe works the same way but does not break cloak, so there is no reason for Dark Flare to break it.

RoyJade

You can add some keep guard's projectile, who keep hitting you whenever you're in cloak or not.

Ambush is a casted skill with a 0,5 second cast time, you can be interrupted during these frames exactly the same as casting frags, flare, snipe and others. So yes, ambush shouldn't break cloak. For lotus fan, it's depending if cloak should interrupt the cast or not. If not, the aoe part should break cloak but not the first hit.

Egonieser

susmitds wrote: »

Berenhir wrote: »

DeepPlayGamer wrote: »

as for the first , like you said if you hit ambush BEFORE he cloak's .. yes its normal

for the dark flare i don't know this ability , (never played as templar ) but i suppose this and whatever ability that interrupts or highlights invisible bEfore the cloack is normal or intended

just my taughts bro

edit ; the ambush looks more like a latency problem it seems if you still didn't hit m at once and interupted him

The usual behaviour of cloak is (was) that though you gap close, the actual hit is dodged.

Lotus Fan is a gap closer and AOE, so we can discuss this issue.
Ambush is just a gap closer and shouldnt break cloak.

If an attack broke cloak if it was casted before the guy cloaked, the ability would be totally useless as no one can cast an ability (other than an AOE) on someone not visible. And AOEs do break cloak.

Cloak dodges (or at least intended) all ranged abilities, melee abilities with a cast time and any ability that needs continuous line of sight like channels and casted abilities. Ambush is neither ranged, nor timed and only needs line of sight during the initial activation (which is why, it can chase players even after they go through doors). It may seem to have a small cast time, but actually it is an instant ability with an slightly long animations. So it is actually logical for Ambush to break cloak.

On the other hand, Dark Flare certainly should not break cloak, as it is ranged, has a cast time and requires constant line of sight. In fact, Snipe works the same way but does not break cloak, so there is no reason for Dark Flare to break it.

Read the post above you, the two skills has something common which other skills don't.

Avenias

olsborg wrote: »

2 things specificly that i have 100% confirmed will break cloak is ambush/lotus fan. -If someone or you presses the ambush button right before your target cloaks, it will still travel too him, dmg him and break his cloak.

The other is dark flare, if you(the templar) starts casting dark flare (1s cast time) before your target cloaks, it will still travel to your target, dmg him and break his cloak.

Is this intended?

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