How to make ESO more interesting to watch and stream

Totalitarian

Honestly, ESO just isn't a spectating game, so it isn't to interesting to watch.

Generally, games with eSports leagues are interesting to watch.


But I must agree with the point that the streamer is more important that what he streams. I watch gaming YouTubers because of them, not because of what they play.

modaretto

BlackEar wrote: »

That is fine that you don't, however there is a fair amount of ignorance towards it, judging by the comments here.
It could be I misused the word ignorant in this regard, maybe narrow-minded would have been more suitable, although these comments below do show lack of awareness - which is being ignorant. There are multiple reasons as to why people watch streamers. It is much like watching gameplay videos, or taking time to enjoy a game without having to pay the price for it. Not everyone can afford it nor does everyone want to shell out money for a new game they dont know much about. Sometimes it can be frustrating playing i.e. Dark Souls but is much more fun to watch without the drawbacks of frustrating deaths.

Not liking streaming is fine, not understanding why anybody might enjoy it, however, is being ignorant So there it is outlined.

This basically sums up what I wanted to say. Well put.

I randomly opened twitch now, LOL: 125k viewers, Heartstone 73k, ESO 308 viewers.

This also says a lot about the community we have in this game which is; not MMO players. So for me one just influences the others, the type of players we have are also here because of what the game offers, which is not enough of a challenging content and by challenging content I mean aims/goals that would make people competitive here.

It may sound harsh but most of the players here are just casual players and that's fine but it's not what will make this game bigger in numbers or a famour/successful MMO. And a successful MMO is one that for example has viewers on twitch.

Daemons_Bane

Pretty sure that having twitch viewers has nothing to do with success

yodased

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Pretty sure that having twitch viewers has nothing to do with success

The can be a correlation between the two, though.

Daemons_Bane

yodased wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Pretty sure that having twitch viewers has nothing to do with success

The can be a correlation between the two, though.

Maybe.. I would think though, that it's just another way of sampling the game before buying it, or maybe getting the solution to a problem you might have encountered when playing the game yourself.. When I was a kid, you went over to a friend who had the game to see it.. Now you can just take the lazy way and watch it online instead

Orlacc

Still puzzling why watching someone else play a video game is appealing...

yodased

Orlacc wrote: »

Still puzzling why watching someone else play a video game is appealing...

Most of the time it's the streamer that is bringing in the people, it's an interaction that you can be involved with the game you love on the subway or the train or at school or work.

Compulsive people are compulsive. Game is down so of course so many more posts on the forums right now, meaning that people are feeling the impulse to be a part of this community, but can't so they scratch that itch here.

Twitch is the same thing, but it's visual and real time, it's as good as playing as you can get without playing, plus you get social commentary and community involvement.

Twitch basically is the methodone for video game addicts, it keeps them from total withdrawal, but it doesn't give that same kick.

jedtb16_ESO

BlackEar wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

I'm not seeing that much ignorance here.. Just a lot of people who have no love for streaming there's a difference

cjthibs wrote: »

BlackEar wrote: »

I am just stunned by the amount of ignorance people can hold towards streaming.
It really is not hard to grasp the concept nor why it holds entertainment value. Sure, you may not find it fun. There are things I don't find fun either that other people do, that does not make me question their sanity.

Opening your mind should really be more common these days.

Ignorance?

...I don't think that word means what you think it means.

I do not find entertainment value in it, I am not ignorant of it.

That is fine that you don't, however there is a fair amount of ignorance towards it, judging by the comments here.
It could be I misused the word ignorant in this regard, maybe narrow-minded would have been more suitable, although these comments below do show lack of awareness - which is being ignorant. There are multiple reasons as to why people watch streamers. It is much like watching gameplay videos, or taking time to enjoy a game without having to pay the price for it. Not everyone can afford it nor does everyone want to shell out money for a new game they dont know much about. Sometimes it can be frustrating playing i.e. Dark Souls but is much more fun to watch without the drawbacks of frustrating deaths.

Not liking streaming is fine, not understanding why anybody might enjoy it, however, is being ignorant So there it is outlined.

cjthibs wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

cjthibs wrote: »

If I want to watch something, I'll go watch TV.
I've got no interest in listening to someone ramble on about how badass their DPS is, or how amazing they are for 1v999999'ing.

thanks for helping out making the game more intereseting and bringing more players by making the solution to go watch tv. Really what we need. -.-

Why do we want people to -watch- people play a game?
Why not get them to actually play the game?

Watching someone else do something I want to do is not entertaining to most people.

Do you like to watch other people eat a nice 5-course meal and listen to them ramble on about how good it is?

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

watch someone play a game?

really???

why?

the above post is bordering on the offensive.

my response is based on my opinion and my experience - not ignorance.

i once watched a stream of a game, and i was struck with the thought 'what the **** are you doing this for, you could be doing something interesting or useful instead of watching this **** ponce around in a video game'

there is a whole world out there.... you should try it some time.

Rohamad_Ali

I may try this only in new way . 2 of my friends are belly dancing girls . Perhaps having them in the background will amaze players as I faceroll through dungeons and break many soul gem using records . If they don't enjoy the face rolling game play they can focus on the ladies . I also knowing a guy that makes the balloon animals . Maybe someone winning balloon Guar mount ? Exciting yes ?

Daemons_Bane

Orlacc wrote: »

Still puzzling why watching someone else play a video game is appealing...

For the same reason people watch anything entertainment, or the chance of learning something useful My brother watches tons of miniature wargames videos to learn different tactics that he can then employ and develop further

NoRagret

Tibia beats ESO? LOL

Mojmir

I don't mind a stream if I need info on something,what I do mind is ls when they overlay themselves in the picture. Or don't get to the point.

Skitttles

We need more boobie streamers.

nordsavage

Not nearly as many people play ESO as the developers would lead you to believe. It is an incredibly small community. Besides watching people play instead of playing is lame.

Tandor

Nestor wrote: »

I don't know if I have ever watched a Live Stream of anyone playing any game ever other than by accident. I will watch videos of games to figure out how find something or do something (although I would rather read a Wikia for that).

One of the most frustrating things for me is when I am stuck on say a quest, so I fire up my browser and do a quick search. All I want is a cryptic clue telling me what I've been missing, but what do I get more often than not these days? A Youtube video taking me through the entire questline !

vyndral13preub18_ESO

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

BlackEar wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

I'm not seeing that much ignorance here.. Just a lot of people who have no love for streaming there's a difference

cjthibs wrote: »

BlackEar wrote: »

I am just stunned by the amount of ignorance people can hold towards streaming.
It really is not hard to grasp the concept nor why it holds entertainment value. Sure, you may not find it fun. There are things I don't find fun either that other people do, that does not make me question their sanity.

Opening your mind should really be more common these days.

Ignorance?

...I don't think that word means what you think it means.

I do not find entertainment value in it, I am not ignorant of it.

That is fine that you don't, however there is a fair amount of ignorance towards it, judging by the comments here.
It could be I misused the word ignorant in this regard, maybe narrow-minded would have been more suitable, although these comments below do show lack of awareness - which is being ignorant. There are multiple reasons as to why people watch streamers. It is much like watching gameplay videos, or taking time to enjoy a game without having to pay the price for it. Not everyone can afford it nor does everyone want to shell out money for a new game they dont know much about. Sometimes it can be frustrating playing i.e. Dark Souls but is much more fun to watch without the drawbacks of frustrating deaths.

Not liking streaming is fine, not understanding why anybody might enjoy it, however, is being ignorant So there it is outlined.

cjthibs wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

cjthibs wrote: »

If I want to watch something, I'll go watch TV.
I've got no interest in listening to someone ramble on about how badass their DPS is, or how amazing they are for 1v999999'ing.

thanks for helping out making the game more intereseting and bringing more players by making the solution to go watch tv. Really what we need. -.-

Why do we want people to -watch- people play a game?
Why not get them to actually play the game?

Watching someone else do something I want to do is not entertaining to most people.

Do you like to watch other people eat a nice 5-course meal and listen to them ramble on about how good it is?

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

watch someone play a game?

really???

why?

the above post is bordering on the offensive.

my response is based on my opinion and my experience - not ignorance.

i once watched a stream of a game, and i was struck with the thought 'what the **** are you doing this for, you could be doing something interesting or useful instead of watching this **** ponce around in a video game'

there is a whole world out there.... you should try it some time.

The interesting part is, this could be said of the person actually playing the video game as well.