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fastolfv_ESO

only game to get bgs right was Daoc, who doesnt have fond memories of Thidranki and Caledonia who played it

BruhItsOver9000

Will stealth be disabled in battlegrounds.

Rastoide

I hope they dont do those horrible objective-related pvp battlegrounds like they did in GW2.

Bakven

@Xsorus they haven't even said how they'll do the battlegrounds. They may not do the flag objectives, maybe they do a kind of king of the hill or last man standing. Wait until they reveal what they're gonna implement before you criticize

Ghost-Shot

Sugaroverdose wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

*sign*

I'll never understand why people want Battlegrounds in a game with a PvP area like ESO.

Forget the fact that it'll siphon from the actual Cyrodiil players....Just like virtually every other game that tried shoveling the two types together...Just think of the major problems that every other Battleground has had since their inception.

And remember..Those same problems will still be present in this game.

I'm talking Premades vs Pug (which I personally don't mind, but it always ends up being an issue for a lot of pug players) which ends up putting Premades vs Premades out usually....And that just ends up with stupid long queue times.

One team having a bunch of DPS vs a Team with a Dedicated Healer.....This will be an issue in this game just as every other game..

Match Mechanics, lets face it..there has been ONE..and I mean ONE Battleground ever made in any game that was remotely interesting and frankly probably worth having in the game..and that was Huttball....Most MMO opt for the worse BG setup imaginable ...The Arathi Basin Setup....Even if you've never played WoW you've probably played that setup in an MMO, its usually 3 Flags and you got to hold basically 2 of them the whole match to win.....and 9/10 its SUPER boring.....It'd be like in ESO if I was a Tower, looking over the side and saw a bunch of people fighting at a Keep...and COULDN'T leave..for the entire 10-15 minute the Matches are... Because the second you leave, someone will snatch the flag and you will probably lose the match. I've stood entire matches in SWTOR during the Civil War Match and fought zero people because of setups like this.

People want BG's because the're tired to 1v12+

LOL you have never played a game with BG's have you?

loki547

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

raasdal wrote: »

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It was confirmed yesterday by Gina, in December patch.

I did not confirm battlegrounds for December. As mentioned on a previous ESO Live, we will begin discussing battlegrounds in detail next year.

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Magus

Bakven wrote: »

@Xsorus they haven't even said how they'll do the battlegrounds. They may not do the flag objectives, maybe they do a kind of king of the hill or last man standing. Wait until they reveal what they're gonna implement before you criticize

+1 for king of the hill

My idea on that one here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/281351/king-of-the-hill-battleground-idea

I think there should be multiple different types of BG though. Off the top of my head right now:

1) King of the Hill - control an area for points, short re-spawn timer, sort of like a IC district fight without mobs and having to re-zone and go through two loading screens to get back into the fight. Sort of like the old arboretum fights before TG ruined it.

2) Like you could have one where there's a scroll spawned in the center, you have to pick it up then you run it like a football across an end zone back towards your spawn point but maybe the scroll carrier is slowed with their run speed and their team has to defend them to get them across. Once you score, the scroll resets in the center.

I'm unsure whether siege should be there or not but I'm thinking no siege.

I would love if ZOS engaged us now on what we were looking for instead of BGs just showing up in a PTS one day already completed. That's probably too late to get any changes implemented because ZOS usually only gives themselves 30 days of PTS before release for us to test it and give feedback and there's just no way that can we done with that time table. It's way easier to affect change earlier on in the SDLC when it's still in the design phase.

SanTii.92

Someone ban this guy for a week. Thank you

Xeven

I want something like the Starcraft ladder. Seasons. Leagues. Structured PvP where you are paired with other people of similar rank and skill. 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and FFA.

That would be amazing.

Thelon

@ZOS_GinaBruno

If you're already working on battlegrounds, why not invite a handful of your long-term, experienced players to a closed PTS to help with testing and balancing?

Surely this would be more fruitful at the early stages than a one month, open PTS closer to launch, and it would show a genuine desire on ZOS's part to engage directly with its passionate fanbase

xANTIxMATTERx

Oh god no siege in BGs please. There are enough siege monkeys now as it is. They can stay in Cyro and have fun never actually using their abilities. When I think of BGs, I think about WoWs right away. Make them anything like that and we are cookin!! And then of course Arenas/dueling eventually...fingers crossed

Ghost-Shot

xANTIxMATTERx wrote: »

Oh god no siege in BGs please. There are enough siege monkeys now as it is. They can stay in Cyro and have fun never actually using their abilities. When I think of BGs, I think about WoWs right away. Make them anything like that and we are cookin!! And then of course Arenas/dueling eventually...fingers crossed

I can't wait for WoW style 2v2/3v3 arenas!

xANTIxMATTERx

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

xANTIxMATTERx wrote: »

Oh god no siege in BGs please. There are enough siege monkeys now as it is. They can stay in Cyro and have fun never actually using their abilities. When I think of BGs, I think about WoWs right away. Make them anything like that and we are cookin!! And then of course Arenas/dueling eventually...fingers crossed

I can't wait for WoW style 2v2/3v3 arenas!

Dude I know, leaderboards and rankings with seasons?? Would be so fun

Ghost-Shot

xANTIxMATTERx wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

xANTIxMATTERx wrote: »

Oh god no siege in BGs please. There are enough siege monkeys now as it is. They can stay in Cyro and have fun never actually using their abilities. When I think of BGs, I think about WoWs right away. Make them anything like that and we are cookin!! And then of course Arenas/dueling eventually...fingers crossed

I can't wait for WoW style 2v2/3v3 arenas!

Dude I know, leaderboards and rankings with seasons?? Would be so fun

WTB Gladiator

Baconlad

Don't care for arenas...didnt find them fun before in WoW. Would love battlegrounds, even matched teams. That way you lose a battleground you wont be able to say "*** zergs..." Been so tired of cyrodil, and IC has been nothing but letdown since I came out...speaking of my OWN opinions here.

MisterBigglesworth

IxskullzxI

dimensional wrote: »

IxskullzxI wrote: »

Idk why people want battle grounds so much. With how the classes are balanced right now, it's going to be a shite show. People complain on here about "cheese" or "unkillable" builds the way it is. What makes you think arenas will be any different?

Not even close.

Care to elaborate?

Jaronking

I hope they balance class better by than because for BG its just going to be stamplar and stamdk are going to be the go to class for 1v1 and dominate the boards.For 4v4 2 magplar and 2 stam DK will usually be the go to setup.NB and Sorc won't do well in BG IMO.Those classes are better built for open world.

The_Payne_Train

@ZOS_GinaBruno

hey,

you advised yes the development team has begun work but you have not stipulated weather it would or be released 2017 or not. PvP players need more in this game and we have been very patient and having this ran through a pts by a group of veteran pvp players is a must.

glavius

Add battlegrounds with better loot than cyrodiil is a good way to kill cyrodiil.. Hope it wont come to that.
And adding battlegrounds with no real reward will have everyone whining. Personally I think battlegrounds will kill the game by dividing the playerbase.

DHale

Pvp arenas and battle grounds will be cool for two to three weeks. I am happy about that as then ppl will at least stop complaining. On you first instance you will square off against german and jombo and Sypher then you will wiped repeatedly. You will then go spend a million gold getting the best gear you can buy come back fight chief and Rhage and Ali sabre. You will die again and again. Then you will say .... Battle grounds suck then you will complain on the forum then say how can I join pact militia? I will be there to tell you welcome "back" to Cyrodil.

Soris

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Synozeer wrote: »

So some time next year we'll begin discussing battlegrounds, then set a date to start working on it, begin programming it, and in maybe 2+ years it will be done?

We're already working on them.

YOU HAVE IT ALREADY JUST RELEASE IT!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR1ccuyGCwA

Grunim

I'd love a battleground option where players wear a battleground raiment in either light, medium or heavy. Anybody remember the raiment in the arena in Oblivion?

It would be fun to have a PvP option where gear is equalized. We already have a NO CP campaign option, so why not offer a battleground option that equalizes player gear too.

Soris

Here another!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMzrkRluWbU
Use the same damn thing

Mojomonkeyman

Please, for once, do it right, ZOS.

Some points to consider:

- You want to hire an expert in structured pvp arena & bg design (since I assume you are not willing to invest much, at least get a part time consultat who had major influence in creating remotely successful arenas like guild wars 1, wow, guild wars 2, swtor)
- You want to involve experienced arena players in the development for continuous testing and feedback - ask your playerbase for support and value that feedback
- You want to focus on map design (lots of balance issues can be mitigated by proper objective placement, role assignment and overall layout of the map - you didnt do it right in IC, you lack competency here, get help from professionals!)
- Matchmaking & Ladder: To develop a smart and balanced matchmaking system is almost as difficult as developing an entire game, see starcraft 2 for the best matchmaking system I can think of. I was told they invested enormous amounts of cash and time into the development of it (individual player`s hidden and public matchmaking ratings corelating to each other to find the most suitable opponents is a really complex system).
- Ladder based on matchmaking: Dont do a ladder it right away, it will not work out if you do it with minimal ressources. Do it when you feel you have enough ressources to create a stable and fair system that rewards skillful play but allows players with lesser experience to still find opponents roughly on their skill level not necessarily rank only.
- Start small: I highly prefer one well thought out, balanced and competetive map to 4-5 mediocre ones that are basiclly useless because of issues that havent been taken into consideration while developing it.

Best regards

raasdal

When a trollpost turns into a real discussion, does that count as a fail?

Sugaroverdose

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Sugaroverdose wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

*sign*

I'll never understand why people want Battlegrounds in a game with a PvP area like ESO.

Forget the fact that it'll siphon from the actual Cyrodiil players....Just like virtually every other game that tried shoveling the two types together...Just think of the major problems that every other Battleground has had since their inception.

And remember..Those same problems will still be present in this game.

I'm talking Premades vs Pug (which I personally don't mind, but it always ends up being an issue for a lot of pug players) which ends up putting Premades vs Premades out usually....And that just ends up with stupid long queue times.

One team having a bunch of DPS vs a Team with a Dedicated Healer.....This will be an issue in this game just as every other game..

Match Mechanics, lets face it..there has been ONE..and I mean ONE Battleground ever made in any game that was remotely interesting and frankly probably worth having in the game..and that was Huttball....Most MMO opt for the worse BG setup imaginable ...The Arathi Basin Setup....Even if you've never played WoW you've probably played that setup in an MMO, its usually 3 Flags and you got to hold basically 2 of them the whole match to win.....and 9/10 its SUPER boring.....It'd be like in ESO if I was a Tower, looking over the side and saw a bunch of people fighting at a Keep...and COULDN'T leave..for the entire 10-15 minute the Matches are... Because the second you leave, someone will snatch the flag and you will probably lose the match. I've stood entire matches in SWTOR during the Civil War Match and fought zero people because of setups like this.

People want BG's because the're tired to 1v12+

LOL you have never played a game with BG's have you?

Whole the time in WoW which is something like 2Y

arkansas_ESO

Xsorus wrote: »

Sugaroverdose wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

*sign*

I'll never understand why people want Battlegrounds in a game with a PvP area like ESO.

Forget the fact that it'll siphon from the actual Cyrodiil players....Just like virtually every other game that tried shoveling the two types together...Just think of the major problems that every other Battleground has had since their inception.

And remember..Those same problems will still be present in this game.

I'm talking Premades vs Pug (which I personally don't mind, but it always ends up being an issue for a lot of pug players) which ends up putting Premades vs Premades out usually....And that just ends up with stupid long queue times.

One team having a bunch of DPS vs a Team with a Dedicated Healer.....This will be an issue in this game just as every other game..

Match Mechanics, lets face it..there has been ONE..and I mean ONE Battleground ever made in any game that was remotely interesting and frankly probably worth having in the game..and that was Huttball....Most MMO opt for the worse BG setup imaginable ...The Arathi Basin Setup....Even if you've never played WoW you've probably played that setup in an MMO, its usually 3 Flags and you got to hold basically 2 of them the whole match to win.....and 9/10 its SUPER boring.....It'd be like in ESO if I was a Tower, looking over the side and saw a bunch of people fighting at a Keep...and COULDN'T leave..for the entire 10-15 minute the Matches are... Because the second you leave, someone will snatch the flag and you will probably lose the match. I've stood entire matches in SWTOR during the Civil War Match and fought zero people because of setups like this.

People want BG's because the're tired to 1v12+

Which will still bloody happen in a BG, Oh my team go jacked up at a point, Here is 6 guys now on top of me at the Flag killing me cause my other Team Mates can't leave our other flag.

It doesn't have to be like that, battlegrounds could be as simple as a 3v3 last man standing (no respawns) and I'd love them, assuming the mega-cheesy builds were nerfed by then.

SantaOrc

Most disappointing thread this year.


Would you PLEASE change the topic name? ffs

Tankqull

BGs will be horrible in ESO.

1. matchmaking - they cant handle a fricking pve grouptool how on earth do you think their matchmaking engine will look like?
2. class balance - it is allready horrible BG will increase this situation
3. battlegrounds are boring with two exceptions the old DAOC BGs and huttball...