Weakness to elements - bug or I fail to understand how it works?

HerrPulaRau

I tested the weakness to elements skill yesterday. Looks a bit bugged to me (or at least it synergies poorly with overload). The results are like this (are from memory so instead of 22350 may be something like 22362 or something similar but I don't think is a problem - used a bear in Wrothgar for testing):

1. With NO weakness to elements:
- Using dual wield with defensive trait (~5k spell penetration): 22350 dmg (oveload - 1 hit)
- Using dual wield with sharpened trait (~9k spell penetration): 24150 dmg (overload - 1 hit)

2. With weakness to elements
- With dual wield defensive trait (~5k spell penetration + ~5k from skill): 23750 dmg (overload - 1 hit) < the one I got from sharpened with only 9k spell penetration (why??)
- Using dual wield with sharpened trait (~9k spell penetration + ~5k from skill): 23750 dmg (overload - 1 hit) -> EXACTLY like the one I got using defensive AND (and this is more strange) < the one using same setup but not using skill (why??)

So... any thoughts on this?

STEVIL

If the bears resistance was less than 9k the added skill on top of the dw sharp would do nothing.

Try variety of enemies add a giant maybe.

HerrPulaRau

Indeed. If the bear resistence would be <9k, it would indeed do nothing. But then how I get higher dmg with sharpened without weakness to elements?

- Using dual wield with sharpened trait (~9k spell penetration): 24150 dmg (overload - 1 hit)
- Using dual wield with sharpened trait (~9k spell penetration + ~5k from skill): 23750 dmg (overload - 1 hit)

Should be the same dmg.

hrothbern

HerrPulaRau wrote: »

I tested the weakness to elements skill yesterday. Looks a bit bugged to me (or at least it synergies poorly with overload). The results are like this (are from memory so instead of 22350 may be something like 22362 or something similar but I don't think is a problem - used a bear in Wrothgar for testing):

1. With NO weakness to elements:
- Using dual wield with defensive trait (~5k spell penetration): 22350 dmg (oveload - 1 hit)
- Using dual wield with sharpened trait (~9k spell penetration): 24150 dmg (overload - 1 hit)

2. With weakness to elements
- With dual wield defensive trait (~5k spell penetration + ~5k from skill): 23750 dmg (overload - 1 hit) < the one I got from sharpened with only 9k spell penetration (why??)
- Using dual wield with sharpened trait (~9k spell penetration + ~5k from skill): 23750 dmg (overload - 1 hit) -> EXACTLY like the one I got using defensive AND (and this is more strange) < the one using same setup but not using skill (why??)

So... any thoughts on this?

The difference is just under 2%
That could also be the effect of 1 less sorc skill slotted from the passive Expert Mage
Could it be that you did not have weakness to elements slotted during DW with Sharpened for 9k and 24,150

elium85

Yeah, the sorc skill passive explains the damage difference fairly accurately.

HerrPulaRau

hrothbern wrote: »

The difference is just under 2%
That could also be the effect of 1 less sorc skill slotted from the passive Expert Mage
Could it be that you did not have weakness to elements slotted during DW with Sharpened for 9k and 24,150

You guys may be right... Indeed I removed 1 sorc skill to add the weakness to elements skill. I can't remember if I used that bar for overload or the other that remained unchanged but probably I used that bar and got that difference. I will retest but my guess is that was the problem.

Any idea what is the average resistance of a boss? Because it appears that for that specific bear was <9k... if that is true about most npcs I may not slot weakness to elements (or I would slot and not use sharpened). I'm talking about pve not pvp.

Tyvm.

hrothbern

HerrPulaRau wrote: »

hrothbern wrote: »

The difference is just under 2%
That could also be the effect of 1 less sorc skill slotted from the passive Expert Mage
Could it be that you did not have weakness to elements slotted during DW with Sharpened for 9k and 24,150

You guys may be right... Indeed I removed 1 sorc skill to add the weakness to elements skill. I can't remember if I used that bar for overload or the other that remained unchanged but probably I used that bar and got that difference. I will retest but my guess is that was the problem.

Any idea what is the average resistance of a boss? Because it appears that for that specific bear was <9k... if that is true about most npcs I may not slot weakness to elements (or I would slot and not use sharpened). I'm talking about pve not pvp.

Tyvm.

Normal Monsters roughly 10k
Bosses roughly 15-20k

DRXHarbinger

Op you need to remember as well you have 4400 spell pen on light armor passives. That poor little bear had no resistance at all lol. Go and test it solo on Skoria and see.