Racist Chat Spamming (Xbox NA)

neo7185

Playing video games over the years, I've learned to ignore the vast majority of ignorant people that get into some room/location where there is area chat and start spouting ignorant non-sense. Typically people do this because they know there is no repercussions to these actions, again most like myself just keeping moving on because there is no reasoning/talking to these idiots. However, this has reached a new absurd level this weekend on xbox. Most of my characters stay in Rawl'kha. All weekend I've continuously loaded into people spamming chat with "white power" "Ni**er, etc over and over and over for hours on end. This is 1 of the major trading hubs and it's so bad you can't even trade in area chat. Yes, I have reported several of these individuals with no action so far to both xbox and eso. So i'm hoping by bringing it to the forums, action will be taken more quickly. I implore a dev to load into the game tonight and see for themselves.

Tonight, they also took it another step farther. When i logged on just now, they were "burning a cross". The stockades there close to the bank, they were using abilities to set it on fire as they chanted "white power". I mean seriously people, this is beyond sickening. I don't really know what else to say, just hope it gets dealt with.

templesus

Blatant racism. If the devs were of African descent one can only assume this would have been dealt with already.

Mcgelie1

I saw that today. Definitely gotta learn to ignore em. We're they the ones with the white engine guardian helms?

bebynnag

were you able to record their actions? i know you cant record what they are saying very easily, (unless you turn the volume up on your tv & record it on a phone) but video evidence of them burning a cross would surley provide the evidence necessary for action to be taken... i would hope!

Jaronking

My buddy just told me about it he has a screenshot of it.Its terrible I can't believe this is allow.ZOs and Microsoft should ban these people .

Elfbait

I was just reading today about how there supposedly aren't any Gamemasters around anymore. If this is true, ZOS really needs to reconsider implementing them, because that kind of behavior is absolutely cancerous.

Panda_iMunch

The concept of dark humor eludes you, does it not?

Even if you don't like it, taking great offense to jokes only serves them in making them more potent, and more impactful to those who legitimately hold real malice views.

UltimaJoe777

Jaronking wrote: »

My buddy just told me about it he has a screenshot of it.Its terrible I can't believe this is allow.ZOs and Microsoft should ban these people .

If they report these actions to Microsoft then some action can very well be taken. Hard to ignore people when using Voice Chat...

On a positive note, hang in there for 3 more days OP. I'm sure Text Chat will have good ignore features!

Panda_iMunch wrote: »

The concept of dark humor eludes you, does it not?

Even if you don't like it, taking great offense to jokes only serves them in making them more potent, and more impactful to those who legitimately hold real malice views.

Racism is NOT dark humor... Dark humor is making fun of death and depression and stuff.

Jaronking

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

My buddy just told me about it he has a screenshot of it.Its terrible I can't believe this is allow.ZOs and Microsoft should ban these people .

If they report these actions to Microsoft then some action can very well be taken. Hard to ignore people when using Voice Chat...

On a positive note, hang in there for 3 more days OP. I'm sure Text Chat will have good ignore features!

I don't care about being able to ignore them they shouldn't be able to keep playing the game.

Panda_iMunch

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Racism is NOT dark humor... Dark humor is making fun of death and depression and stuff.

Let me Google it for you:

"A black comedy (or dark comedy) is a comic work that makes light of serious, disturbing, and / or taboo subject matter."

Seeing as racism is a serious and taboo subject, any jokes about it would be classified as dark humor. If you want your little safe space to be intact, just ignore them and live your life.

UltimaJoe777

Panda_iMunch wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Racism is NOT dark humor... Dark humor is making fun of death and depression and stuff.

Let me Google it for you:

"A black comedy (or dark comedy) is a comic work that makes light of serious, disturbing, and / or taboo subject matter."

Seeing as racism is a serious and taboo subject, any jokes about it would be classified as dark humor. If you want your little safe space to be intact, just ignore them and live your life.

Oh you poor misguided person you... There is so much wrong with what you say that it makes me pity you.

Jaronking wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

My buddy just told me about it he has a screenshot of it.Its terrible I can't believe this is allow.ZOs and Microsoft should ban these people .

If they report these actions to Microsoft then some action can very well be taken. Hard to ignore people when using Voice Chat...

On a positive note, hang in there for 3 more days OP. I'm sure Text Chat will have good ignore features!

I don't care about being able to ignore them they shouldn't be able to keep playing the game.

A complete ban would not be plausible here though, just a social ban.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Panda_iMunch wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Racism is NOT dark humor... Dark humor is making fun of death and depression and stuff.

Let me Google it for you:

"A black comedy (or dark comedy) is a comic work that makes light of serious, disturbing, and / or taboo subject matter."

Seeing as racism is a serious and taboo subject, any jokes about it would be classified as dark humor. If you want your little safe space to be intact, just ignore them and live your life.

So you were there doing it with them? Or just helped plan it?

alexkdd99

Not condoning anything but why not just mute and report them? There really isn't more you can do besides that. It is unfortunate that people act like that but I would just mute / report and move on, eventually you will have all the bad apples muted and won't have to worry about it. As far as simply reporting them without having any sort of evidence to back it up, I hope you understand why they can do very little with that.

If just reporting people could cause action to be taken on said persons account this could be very easily abused causing innocent people to suffer consequences. I play on xbox as well and from time to time I hear ignorant people saying ignorant things but not very often. Maybe you play in different alliance or are just unlucky to be around this that often.

Also to the person saying that if a dev was of African decent then this would have probably been taken care of is a little bit of a racist statement don't you think? Maybe they just don't have someone sitting in every instance of every town on every server just to listen to area chat. Not to mention that I am sure countless people have been muted and restrictions placed on them for such actions. To expect them to be able to completely stop all racist or derogatory comments is a little nieve. (Last paragraph not meant for op)

Beat of luck to you.

Jaronking

From what my buddy told me they wear all white and chance around players who are the redguard race.Yea am pretty sure that's breaking multiple parts of the TOS.

UltimaJoe777

alexkdd99 wrote: »

Not condoning anything but why not just mute and report them? There really isn't more you can do besides that. It is unfortunate that people act like that but I would just mute / report and move on, eventually you will have all the bad apples muted and won't have to worry about it. As far as simply reporting them without having any sort of evidence to back it up, I hope you understand why they can do very little with that.

If just reporting people could cause action to be taken on said persons account this could be very easily abused causing innocent people to suffer consequences. I play on xbox as well and from time to time I hear ignorant people saying ignorant things but not very often. Maybe you play in different alliance or are just unlucky to be around this that often.

Also to the person saying that if a dev was of African decent then this would have probably been taken care of is a little bit of a racist statement don't you think? Maybe they just don't have someone sitting in every instance of every town on every server just to listen to area chat. Not to mention that I am sure countless people have been muted and restrictions placed on them for such actions. To expect them to be able to completely stop all racist or derogatory comments is a little nieve. (Last paragraph not meant for op)

Beat of luck to you.

If only it were that simple. If OP has voice chat ON in Rawl'kha he is clearing attempting or actually is conducting business, and jackasses like those racist pricks can really mess with that. It's a prime reason why people dislike voice chat.

ArchMikem

Is this EU? I just logged on and went into area chat but for some reason I couldn't hear anyone. It looked like no one was talking even though the room had 8 people. They were shooting off AoE's as typical but if they were talking I couldn't hear anyone and I didn't see anything like setting the Stocks on fire.

bedlom

Why don't you just play loud bashment music over the mic.
Pisses em off everytime to no end and there is F all they can do except listen or go away. Its so funny to beat em at there own game.
Works everytime

bebynnag

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

alexkdd99 wrote: »

Not condoning anything but why not just mute and report them? There really isn't more you can do besides that. It is unfortunate that people act like that but I would just mute / report and move on, eventually you will have all the bad apples muted and won't have to worry about it. As far as simply reporting them without having any sort of evidence to back it up, I hope you understand why they can do very little with that.

If just reporting people could cause action to be taken on said persons account this could be very easily abused causing innocent people to suffer consequences. I play on xbox as well and from time to time I hear ignorant people saying ignorant things but not very often. Maybe you play in different alliance or are just unlucky to be around this that often.

Also to the person saying that if a dev was of African decent then this would have probably been taken care of is a little bit of a racist statement don't you think? Maybe they just don't have someone sitting in every instance of every town on every server just to listen to area chat. Not to mention that I am sure countless people have been muted and restrictions placed on them for such actions. To expect them to be able to completely stop all racist or derogatory comments is a little nieve. (Last paragraph not meant for op)

Beat of luck to you.

If only it were that simple. If OP has voice chat ON in Rawl'kha he is clearing attempting or actually is conducting business, and jackasses like those racist pricks can really mess with that. It's a prime reason why people dislike voice chat.

i believe they were refering to the xbox block feature, which also blocks people in game, so you no longer have to listen to them, they can still hear you, but you dont have to listen to them

i assume (hope) this will also block people from communicating via the upcomming game chat, as they cant currently send messages via xbox, comment on posts, view feed

Panda_iMunch

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Oh you poor misguided person you... There is so much wrong with what you say that it makes me pity you.

Besides this statement being incredibly petty and condescending, you failed to uphold any counter point.

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

So you were there doing it with them? Or just helped plan it?

I'm not even on the same platform as them, I just don't see the benefits at hitting yourself over the jokes of another.

neo7185

puffytheslayer wrote: »

were you able to record their actions? i know you cant record what they are saying very easily, (unless you turn the volume up on your tv & record it on a phone) but video evidence of them burning a cross would surley provide the evidence necessary for action to be taken... i would hope!

I wish I had, honestly didn't even think about it. Was too busy trying to report and make someone aware. And yes, lets hope something is done.

UltimaJoe777

Panda_iMunch wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Oh you poor misguided person you... There is so much wrong with what you say that it makes me pity you.

Besides this statement being incredibly petty and condescending, you failed to uphold any counter point.

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

So you were there doing it with them? Or just helped plan it?

I'm not even on the same platform as them, I just don't see the benefits at hitting yourself over the jokes of another.

You want a counterpoint eh? Fine, have 3.

1. Saying racism is part of black comedy is racist in and of itself.
2. You have done nothing but condone racism thus far, thus making your argument here basically nothing but that: an argument against what OP is complaining about. Racism is NOT to be taken lightly as it is very controversial and offensive, and telling someone to not be sensative to it is a cop out.
3. Flat out using the N word in a racist manner or blatantly using the term "white" in reference to race is, sorry to say, NOT joking around. Unless you're into CRUDE humor, aka potty humor, which in and of itself is very frowned upon when it is offensive.

As for taking my post as condescension that sounds like a personal problem if that is how you take pity.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Panda_iMunch wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Oh you poor misguided person you... There is so much wrong with what you say that it makes me pity you.

Besides this statement being incredibly petty and condescending, you failed to uphold any counter point.

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

So you were there doing it with them? Or just helped plan it?

I'm not even on the same platform as them, I just don't see the benefits at hitting yourself over the jokes of another.

I guess my question then, is how do you know it was a joke? You seem pretty certain. Doesnt really sound like a joke. Sounds more like a bunch of people being ***. Or is being an *** some how black comedy then?

neo7185

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Panda_iMunch wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Oh you poor misguided person you... There is so much wrong with what you say that it makes me pity you.

Besides this statement being incredibly petty and condescending, you failed to uphold any counter point.

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

So you were there doing it with them? Or just helped plan it?

I'm not even on the same platform as them, I just don't see the benefits at hitting yourself over the jokes of another.

You want a counterpoint eh? Fine, have 3.

1. Saying racism is part of black comedy is racist in and of itself.
2. You have done nothing but condone racism thus far, thus making your argument here basically nothing but that: an argument against what OP is complaining about. Racism is NOT to be taken lightly as it is very controversial and offensive, and telling someone to not be sensative to it is a cop out.
3. Flat out using the N word in a racist manner or blatantly using the term "white" in reference to race is, sorry to say, NOT joking around. Unless you're into CRUDE humor, aka potty humor, which in and of itself is very frowned upon when it is offensive.

Well said...these guys know exactly what they're doing. Are they mostly just dumb kids who want to "get attention", probably. But it doesn't change the fact that what they're doing is beyond obscene and disgusting. To those in any way defending these actions, you're part of the problem.

Rohamad_Ali

Terrible players to be subjected to . Add to ignore and anyone that caters to their conversation .

Elfbait

Players like that create a toxic atmosphere and violate the TOS. Report them, then mute/ignore them, then move on.

nimander99

Most likely none of them are even racist. Probably a bunch of teens just acting like... Teens. Not saying its right but I am glad we live in a society where people can voice anything they want. The alternative is a bloody murder fest.

Just to reiterate: Doing the things you described is awful. But anonymity letting people act like Rtards is nothing new on the internet of things. Sorry you had to witness that.

Panda_iMunch

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

You want a counterpoint eh? Fine, have 3.

1. Saying racism is part of black comedy is racist in and of itself.
2. You have done nothing but condone racism thus far, thus making your argument here basically nothing but that: an argument against what OP is complaining about. Racism is NOT to be taken lightly as it is very controversial and offensive, and telling someone to not be sensative to it is a cop out.
3. Flat out using the N word in a racist manner or blatantly using the term "white" in reference to race is, sorry to say, NOT joking around. Unless you're into CRUDE humor, aka potty humor, which in and of itself is very frowned upon when it is offensive.

As for taking my post as condescension that sounds like a personal problem if that is how you take pity.

I should use your quote from earlier here, but there is just some things I should point out.

Gods, where to even start with this.
1. The term "Black Humor" is not meant to be a racial term as it is referring to the dark or harrowing nature the jokes can be about. It's a taboo subject as you've said, which is why it can fall under the comedy category known as dark humor. It's not about group of people, it's about the subject.
2. Stop lying, my point was clearly about how it was a joke and how one should not take the tail end of a poor joke as hard as you have done. It's an online video game and racist and racial jokes will crop up here and there. Unless the intent was obvious and not just a bunch of bones heads being edge lords, then just report it and move on.
3. Calling a person n***er with no reason is bad, duh, not arguing over that. It has become sort of a trendy crude joke to be racist as it is taboo, even more so with hypersensitivity becoming more common. To that, all I can say is that it will happen and be ready when it does. Tell them to stop, if they just throw more *** at you, just move on and report. Making a post like this is pointless. (Also, not sure how using white with reference to race is racist. That's not an insult, it's just a categorical thing, and you know that.)

Burning_Talons

These people usually never seen a female chest in their life so they go to Xbox to show their lack of brain cells and social skills.

Jaronking

I wouldn't care about this if they didn't go around chasing players who play as a Redguard race.

templesus

alexkdd99 wrote: »

Not condoning anything but why not just mute and report them? There really isn't more you can do besides that. It is unfortunate that people act like that but I would just mute / report and move on, eventually you will have all the bad apples muted and won't have to worry about it. As far as simply reporting them without having any sort of evidence to back it up, I hope you understand why they can do very little with that.

If just reporting people could cause action to be taken on said persons account this could be very easily abused causing innocent people to suffer consequences. I play on xbox as well and from time to time I hear ignorant people saying ignorant things but not very often. Maybe you play in different alliance or are just unlucky to be around this that often.

Also to the person saying that if a dev was of African decent then this would have probably been taken care of is a little bit of a racist statement don't you think? Maybe they just don't have someone sitting in every instance of every town on every server just to listen to area chat. Not to mention that I am sure countless people have been muted and restrictions placed on them for such actions. To expect them to be able to completely stop all racist or derogatory comments is a little nieve. (Last paragraph not meant for op)

Beat of luck to you.

Explain to me how its racist, I said one can only assume, someone of the same color who knows the pain their ancestors endured would jump on this thread in an instant.

Abeille

Whenever I see people like this, I can't help but imagine what a sad life they must have to be so insecure to the point of feeling the need to act like that on the internet. You know, the kind of people that feel so awful that they want to try to make other people feel awful too - but on the internet, where no one can punch them in the face.

This kind of thing warrants a permaban. It is an acceptable replacement for the aforementioned punch in the face.