[Video] Pelinal Sorc - IC PvP

Waylander

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7NS6rxKGXY

When I first leveled a stam sorc in about 1.3 I enjoyed the combo of poison injection and mages wrath in the lowbie areas. Always enjoyed that explosion.

When the Pelinals set was released, I wondered if I could rekindle a bit of that soft cap era hybrid nostalgia.

The idea of this build was pressure, healing and double ranged execute for anyone who couldn't handle the pressure. It's not easy to play though on Aussie ping, but that might be because I am wearing divines to push the weapon damage up.

This was the Friday before Shadows of the Hist dropped.

Any criticism is welcome, cause I'm still a scrub!

Pandorii

I'd like to know more about your experience as a hybrid, relative to your experience with other non-hybrid/meta-like classes. With a video, it's kinda hard to differentiate skill (especially in PvP) with build strength. Good players can make bad builds works. = P

So far, in my experience with Pelinals, I can see the strain in my DPS. The utility aspects are pretty great though. I'm running it on a DK though with DW, meaning my spammable is the crappy flurry (might as well light attack for more damage, sheesh). The alternative would be running 2h, but I feel like that would just tip me to going full stam, lame, and it would pigeon-hole me into using a lot of weapon-skills in my bar. DW also gives me an extra set piece and the passive that increases dmg.

Waylander

Hybrid is definitely weaker than a meta build.

Prior to this I was running 5 blackrose 5 viper and doing pretty well with a similar bar set-up.

I haven't tried pelinal DK yet, but I think I would probably run 2h and bow, and swap out dizzying swing for whip. But rather than being a full hybrid, it would be a stam dk with whip haha.

Pelinals works nicely on my Templar, poison injection > javelin > jebus beam is a very strong finisher and honour the dead is a decent magica efficient heal. @Gottbeard and @JackDaniell both have good pelinal templar builds (both different and worth a watch).

I think @JackDaniell has also dabbled with pelinal sorc so may be able to comment on effectiveness.

Minalan

That was fairly badass, with the dawnbreaker and mages wrath combo!

KenaPKK

I imagine this build performs better in Azura's since the CP system disfavors hybrid builds. Have you played it there, and if so, how did it fare?

Vaoh

If I ever go all out trying a Pelinal Sorc, I would try to utilize Crystal Fragments. Endless Fury could provide the Magicka skill for Frag procs.

Just a thought!

booksmcread

If you have manged to get your weapon damage high enough (and consequently your spell damage through pelinal), you can use velocious curse with a bow to great effect. You can get a curse and heavy bow attack to hit simultaneously for a nice burst.

Erock25

Yeah, but why? You're only using spell dmg on the sorc execute and Implosion can act as your execute using DW. It's a novel build but those 600 dmg initial hit and 2k endless fury explosions just aren't worth it. You would be better off doing another flurry when they're in execute range.

Elong

Erock25 wrote: »

Yeah, but why? You're only using spell dmg on the sorc execute and Implosion can act as your execute using DW. It's a novel build but those 600 dmg initial hit and 2k endless fury explosions just aren't worth it. You would be better off doing another flurry when they're in execute range.

Because it's fun!

My hybrid Temp is the most fun I've had on the game. Dizzy swinging someone into a Jesus beam is hilarious and you get the most amazing whispers from people who can't comprehend that you might actually be doing something outside of the meta.

It's also a fairly decent style to try if you have the gold and the patience to work out where you need to allocate CP. My Honour The Dead heals are the same as on my Magplar.

Waylander

KenaPKK wrote: »

I imagine this build performs better in Azura's since the CP system disfavors hybrid builds. Have you played it there, and if so, how did it fare?

Haven't tried it on Azura, but it make sense as this build should lose less proportionately than other builds.

Minalan wrote: »

That was fairly badass, with the dawnbreaker and mages wrath combo!

Haha yeah mages wrath pop is what it's all about for me haha.

Vaoh wrote: »

If I ever go all out trying a Pelinal Sorc, I would try to utilize Crystal Fragments. Endless Fury could provide the Magicka skill for Frag procs.

Just a thought!

I tried frags but it's a bit lackluster with such a low Magica pool, and you really struggle for bar space as a pelinal's hybrid build. WW is also OP cause your heals are actually good!

booksmcread wrote: »

If you have manged to get your weapon damage high enough (and consequently your spell damage through pelinal), you can use velocious curse with a bow to great effect. You can get a curse and heavy bow attack to hit simultaneously for a nice burst.

I haven't tried curse, but swapping out curse in one bar and storm atro on the other gives you the nice stam rege n passive without needing a toggle!

Erock25 wrote: »

Yeah, but why? You're only using spell dmg on the sorc execute and Implosion can act as your execute using DW. It's a novel build but those 600 dmg initial hit and 2k endless fury explosions just aren't worth it. You would be better off doing another flurry when they're in execute range.

Mainly for fun mate. Anyone can run a meta build and if that's fun for you, by all means do it - I do most of the time. I like to theory craft and try different builds, this one was a bit of a throwback to hybrid nostalgia.

The build focuses on pressure, opening with poison injection and endless whilst I gap close (I have no gap closer) gives me a window for bloodthirst > dawnbreaker (or bloodcraze) which (combined with hurricane) applies a lot of pressure with some. Burst from viper/endless. They usually swap to a defensive bar (if not dead) and I can keep up the pressure as my dual weild bar has self healing from bloodthirst, bloodcraze, crit surge and vigor.

Really tanky builds are a pita (lack high burst) and malubeth (at least when bugged) was a strong hard counter to this build. Double heal/tank templar duo's were my bane.