Cyrodiil Truce for Delves and Dolmens?

Farmerr

What do you all think of a truce between alliances when delving or closing dolmens? Like a simple, known in-game courtesy between solo players and small groups with no enforcement by game mechanics or ZOS.

Maybe make it Lore friendly with the Alliance leaders agreeing to work together fighting evils in the dark corners of the world and the Dark Chains of Molag Bal.

I know this is war and anything goes, but it can be really annoying trying to finish a delve boss or dolmen and an enemy player finishes you off right before you get the delve achievement or dolmen, especially after sneaking across the map.

I leave enemy players alone if they're in the middle of fighting a mob, boss, dolmen, etc. because I don't want to get busted if I'm doing that either.

Again, I know people scout each other then tell their buddies where they are or headed to gang up later, but at least wait until that player finishes what they're doing and gank em down the road from the delve or dolmen.

KenaPKK

NO. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. No truces in PvP land!

DocFrost72

As a show of courtesy, I usually wait to be attacked. If you cloak as a NB, you are a target. If you streak past me, you are a target. If we in IC, you are a target. But delves etc? Meh, I won't be the first to attack. Some players are like me, some (like kena) see you as walking AP. Know what is better than a truce? Firepower. Head out in a group of four, much better that way

Farmerr

I don't mind actually fighting/dueling in a PvE location. I do mind being at 25% health at a mob or boss and getting finished off out of nowhere. I've learned to live with it but wondered what you all thought.

Luigi_Vampa

It depends entirely on my mood. Sometimes I feel like killing PvEers, sometimes not. I won't agree to any truce.

heystreethawk

We leave small groups and solo acts alone unless they've engaged someone on siege / snagged someone lagging behind on horseback / otherwise behaved like a dweeb, but I don't think a solo player or comparably sized group should feel obligated to leave enemies alone just because they're doing pve content.

You have like 80% of the game world to feel safe and protected against other players; learn to defend yourself if you want to hang out here.

KenaPKK

If meant for friends, why is it made of AP?

zyk

Farmerr wrote: »

I don't mind actually fighting/dueling in a PvE location. I do mind being at 25% health at a mob or boss and getting finished off out of nowhere. I've learned to live with it but wondered what you all thought.

When I did Cyrodiil delves, I scouted them thoroughly before leaving myself vulnerable. I would sometimes find gankers to clear out.

It is the dynamic nature of Cyrodiil that makes it fun.

I don't know which mobs have had you down to 25%, but you probably want to be more survivable than that when soloing in Cyrodiil.

DannyLV702

As personal preference, I will leave you alone if you leave me alone. More than likely, any good player will leave me alone and I'll leave him alone. It's always the squishy people that feel they have to gank me and well...die trying

The_Payne_Train

if I see you on my dolmen I will rain dark flares on your inferior body! p.s the only good enemy is a dead one

Minalan

LOL Nope...

Rohamad_Ali

Ok truce in Dungeons an delves . I feel safer already .

Minnesinger

A truce you can break any moment without any consequences is a dead idea. Better to try act like you aren´t hostile and hope your opponent understands your intentions. I even opened a threat to thank Roaldy for not attacking me at the dolmen. We also did the dolmen and went separate ways.

Xerosus

I never attack people in delves or dolmens, except when they attack me. Then they end up as a small pile of ash on the ground.

KenaPKK

Welcome to Cyrodiil.

Dojohoda

I leave pve'ers alone as long as they don't attack me

Emasculate

If you go into Cyrodiil, you shouldn't go into Cyrodiil with the mindset that players aren't going to attack you. That's defeating the purpose of Cyrodiil in it's entirety as lore, and as a game mechanic for PvP. So I disagree with this post, if you want to go get dolmens, and the motifs and rewards that come with them. You need to endure the fun, and challenge that comes with it. Look forward to seeing you in the field.

Kind Regards, Sincerely Vulsin.

psxfloh

Just do whatever it is you want to do early in the morning. Worked pretty fine for me.. only a handful of souls in Cyrodiil at that time of day, so you should be able to get anywhere on horseback (i.e. without sneaking) uncontested.
I even managed to get all 4 skyshards behind the enemy's gates; thanks to a lucky coincidence where some other guys opened the way and I could slip through.

And when it comes to farming dolmen bosses: the cadwell's gold areas and their respective dolmens are also scaled to cp160. And, like in Cyrodiil, every dolmen boss can spawn at every dolmen - the lists where bosses 1-4 spawn here, bosses 5-8 there, etc. only apply to the unscaled areas of your character's alliance.

(I'm on PS4 EU, AD)

Hempyre

Nope.

I'd like to see more areas and situational pvp open up, including same faction.

KenaPKK

Hempyre wrote: »

Nope.

I'd like to see more areas and situational pvp open up, including same faction.

Yes please.

Ufretin

Enforcing the truce / "teaching them some manners" is in fact a fun thing I like to do every now and then: Hang out in plain sight at some pve location and wait for pve players to blindly attack you. Kill them -> /facepalm. Should teach them not to attack everything on sight

NovaShadow

I've done several delves side by side with both AD & DC. Usually I'll wait, if they attack me I'll fight back. Sometimes if I'm chasing the bosses I'll whisper them first and if we agree to a truce we kill the boss together.

It's a player/case kinda thing.

Pchela

cyrodiil is not a safe zone, should never be a safe zone, and attacking is up to the discretion of each individual player. enjoy the unknown! good luck!

Beardimus

No no no no no. Would remove the buzz of 'what if'

I've been jumped at both, and I've done some jumping, I've also made spontaneous alliances with enemies in both. The buzz is not knowing. 100% leave it as is or you ruin all that.

DeclaredJester

Any kind of "truce" between factions should be frowned upon. My enemy of my enemy is my enemy (or me).

Vaoh

This is why I love being a strong player and flaunting around my Flawless Conqueror title!

I'm a nice player! Honestly. I will never attack someone doing a Dolmen/Quest/Delve unless they attack me and refuse to stop.

I'll hold up my block and stand still, slowing raising and lowering block after a couple seconds. That is how I call a truce.

From my experience, group size changes their reaction completely:

One player
• Accepts truce 7/10 times

Two players
• Accepts truce 4/10 times

Three players
• Accepts truce 2/10 times

Four or more
• Never accepts truce

If I get attacked, they have to die Simple really.

Sandman929

Typhoios wrote: »

It depends entirely on my mood. Sometimes I feel like killing PvEers, sometimes not. I won't agree to any truce.

This. It usually depends on how annoying your faction mates have been that day.

Ghost-Shot

I hear they have delves and dolmens in PVE land

yell0wdart

Nope. I got crappy monster helms to buy. If you are in Cyrodiil and happen to be on the incorrect faction, you are AP.

SanTii.92

I always wait for you to finish your mob, I might even help you out, that's just manners. but there is no way you walk away from me without putting a fight, after all that's all I'm for in Cyrodiil.

BruhItsOver9000

I feel your pain, bro. This my story.

A long time ago, i was leveling up my character with a random v16 by my side, we see an enemy player, we hold block and we truce. So 2 hours later, the v16 guy leaves and bad *** started happening.

the enemy player was nowhere to be seen.
I was happy and thought that i had cwc all to myself.

But, out of nowhere, the enemy player attacks me and then kills me,
He then proceeds to teabag me, i was mad, REALLY MAD. So i go on the forums to calm my mind and see a thread posted by sribes, called Your Casual ganker VOLUME TWO. I watched the video and i was so amazed, his ganking skills were legendary,
I wanted to be like him, i copied his build and started to instakill every player that i saw, i ganked the gankers.
Moral of the story is DON'T TRUST ANYONE IN PVP, KILL OR BE KILLED.