Guild bank leveling access

rentalman UK

As we all now we join a guild and join now a possible community to further enjoy our gaming experience. It is also noted that when someone joins a guild they have access to guild resources otherwise what's the point of the guild just to chat I do not think so. Participation and interaction increases player to player presence . Player to guild interaction. All trials pledges assistance is always offered by the guilds that help members as well as possible joining of the guild giving the player more interaction.


Guild banks are full of items that the guild members feel that they probably do not need so they deposit in the guild bank giving members who have the access to withdraw items they need to further there gaming enjoyment etc.

Is it possible. And I ask eso to have guild banking leveling system that allows members to access the back based on there level of interaction within the guild. I am aware that guild masters will promote and demote players granting access to the guild bank as well as assisting them without access to get or assist what Is required . The problem I have experienced with this that when you grant access to the guild bank they have access to all contents that can then be abused and a player can empty the guild bank in a short period of time and leave.

My suggestion is

New member starts and is a ensign he will be granted access to the bank with a possible restriction eg white green items withdrawal from bank he then gets promoted or has a adjustment in access withdrawal allowing possible white green and blue items withdrawal. And so on up the chain. Giving the guild master the power to limit the possible withdrawals and avoiding bank privilege miss use. This stops guild bank misuse if once a player has been given full access but then misuses it it becomes a internal guild issue and stops people like me moaning when a player who has been in the guild .


What are the thoughts
Is it possible to adjust bank access withdrawals

Is it plausible

Thanks all in advance

jedtb16_ESO

the way it works now..... you ask a guild officer for the item you need. that way you don't get people joining, clearing out the bank and clearing off. not perfect but it is simple.

rentalman UK

Yes correct but surely a macro based database can be granted based on rank on guild. Nothing worse than joining a guild that is tight on its own. This way joint a guild gives automatic bank ranking access and new members gave access but restricted to possible item levels

ADarklore

There is a certain level of TRUST that goes into having guild bank access, and sometimes that trust- like in real life- can be misplaced. That's the risk one takes, and there is nothing that can stop someone who wants to take advantage if they are that type of person. I don't think Guild Traders would want ZOS to micromanage their guilds for them, and that is exactly what you are asking for.

jedtb16_ESO

ADarklore wrote: »

There is a certain level of TRUST that goes into having guild bank access, and sometimes that trust- like in real life- can be misplaced. That's the risk one takes, and there is nothing that can stop someone who wants to take advantage if they are that type of person. I don't think Guild Traders would want ZOS to micromanage their guilds for them, and that is exactly what you are asking for.

yup, agree entirely.

rentalman UK

Not at all on reading the post I am asking for a structure for item withdrawal from a guild bank as stated

New member gets white level removed
Promoted member gets white and green
Promoted again white green blue
Top tear white green blue purple

How is that I ask guild intervention it is prevention on misuse where a member cannot just join get bank access and clean guild out and leave like what happened to our guild on Sunday 16 pages after skirmisher dreugh king shadow worm elegant etc

Hence a request not a demand

All posts are appreciated

Regards
Rentalman UK

Ayantir

it has been asked a hundred times and they're still in the "we'll add it in a future version".
Best solution is daily quotas or tabs.. but daily quota is easy to do while tabs are a bit harder.

Based on quality ? no.

few white items are really expensive (green too) potions, flowers, material for smithing, etc. 200 tri stats pots is not a little thing.


and yes my guild bank as been stolen.. twice.
Now we're only pushing in items we don't care a lot

Elara_Northwind

I think the way it works now, with guild leaders being able to decide who has access to their guild bank, is absolutely fine. In our guild, anybody above the first rank is able to use the guild bank, but our guild is a small social guild and people are only promoted up from the first rank when everybody knows them and feels that they are trustworthy...

In many larger guilds such as trading guilds, people don't know eachother from adam, and so why should the guild leaders be expected to let people they barely know use their guild bank? People could even be storing personal items in there that they do not wish others to take.

AlnilamE

rentalman UK wrote: »

Not at all on reading the post I am asking for a structure for item withdrawal from a guild bank as stated

New member gets white level removed
Promoted member gets white and green
Promoted again white green blue
Top tear white green blue purple

How is that I ask guild intervention it is prevention on misuse where a member cannot just join get bank access and clean guild out and leave like what happened to our guild on Sunday 16 pages after skirmisher dreugh king shadow worm elegant etc

Hence a request not a demand

All posts are appreciated

Regards
Rentalman UK

I think any sort of tiered guild bank access that is implemented should be set at the discretion of the guild leadership. Like being able to sell at the vendor or claim/release resources in Cyrodiil are all items that can be set for each separate rank. So if there is any type of tiering like this, be it by item quality or quantity of withdrawal, it should be an option that Guild leaders can set and not something that it automatically set by the game.

Because "promoted" does not really mean the same thing for every guild. For example, my guild has the default "new member" rank assigned at the lowest because that's what the game defaults to when you invite a person. Then above that, there is an "inactive" rank for players who have not been around for a certain amount of time. By your standards, the "inactive" person should be able to take more items out of the bank than a new member who is actually playing the game.

So again, tiers of whatever kind are fine, as long as they can be determined by the guild itself, and not by the game.

GreenhaloX

To avoid or minimize any chance of a headache or frustration from possible theft, in-game banks in ESO should still be managed similarly to real-life banks or inventory system. Trust is one thing, and yes, it does go a long way, but even trust will have its limit, when it comes to finance, inventory and business. In-game or not, an effective system that includes proper management, logistic and distribution need to be established. Yes, this is only a game, so, I'm not talking about a full-blown banking system, but a simple who is the only one or few to have approval, access and distribute will do. Everybody should be able to have the ability to deposit, but giving anybody and everybody access for withdrawal is just asking for trouble.

Giraffon

Here is another approach that I've thought about:

Give GM's (or officers) the ability to "lock" items in the guild bank. It would work the same as locking items in personal bank space.

If I had that, I would likely lock excess stacks of valueable materials. So if I've got 8 stacks of top level medium armor mats I might lock 6 of them and release them as needed. (Because farming leather is a pain.) The result of this would be damage control in the event of a robbery but still mostly open bank access.

rentalman UK

Girrafon that sounds possible I shall try did not think of that u assume it is locked mm by guild master and only opened by the one who locks it is that right

Giraffon

rentalman UK wrote: »

Girrafon that sounds possible I shall try did not think of that u assume it is locked mm by guild master and only opened by the one who locks it is that right

I think if they did something like this I would want to be able to assign lock/unlock powers to players based on their guild rank. I personally would not delegate this to anyone else, but I think the option should be there.

Or did you mean if officer A locks something only officer A should be able to unlock it? I wouldn't go down that road because it opens up a lot of issues. I would want it so that if officer A locks something in guild bank, than anyone with lock/unlock rights can unlock it.

Cryptical

A guild I'm in isn't using ranks as ranks, but as categories of player. "Crafter" has bank access. "Dungeoneer" does not.

rentalman UK

Thanks all for normal positive education

Regards

UltimaJoe777

Guild permissions and ranks are the jurisdiction of the guild members themselves. They have complete control over their guilds so your business regarding guild banks is with them and not Zenimax.

Technically it is best that guilds NOT allow their "new recruit" rank to withdraw from the guild bank but that just depends on the guild and what they store and why they store it. To each guild their own. However, if Zenimax starts adding mechanics that force permissions onto a guild then there will be a LOT of unhappy guildmasters...

rentalman UK

Can I ask how guild masters will be unhappy as this will prevent misuse and possible stopping someone cleaning the guild bank which then will upset guild masters as they gave access

Khairiah

A thing that would be useful was, if u were able to look through the GB, and see if there was anything useable he/she could have or buy. But not able to redraw.

rentalman UK

Good idea and makes sense

Contact Gm or officer re withdraw great suggestion

UltimaJoe777

rentalman UK wrote: »

Can I ask how guild masters will be unhappy as this will prevent misuse and possible stopping someone cleaning the guild bank which then will upset guild masters as they gave access

Because mechanics forcing permissions robs guilds of the freedom to customize, prioritize, and assign things, including permissions, as they see fit.

jedtb16_ESO

rentalman UK wrote: »

Good idea and makes sense

Contact Gm or officer re withdraw great suggestion

i'm almost certain that is how it works now....

ViridisVolpes

Sounds like someone got robbed~
Happened to a guild I was part of before I took a break for the game, and I'm sure there are many others who's good faith in a new recruit has been rewarded by said recruit emptying the guild bank
I like your idea of limiting the quality of item, and would say limit quantity as well or instead.
Good post dude

bryanhaas

rentalman UK wrote: »

Not at all on reading the post I am asking for a structure for item withdrawal from a guild bank as stated

New member gets white level removed
Promoted member gets white and green
Promoted again white green blue
Top tear white green blue purple

How is that I ask guild intervention it is prevention on misuse where a member cannot just join get bank access and clean guild out and leave like what happened to our guild on Sunday 16 pages after skirmisher dreugh king shadow worm elegant etc

Hence a request not a demand

All posts are appreciated

Regards
Rentalman UK

I handle it by no bank access til the person has contributed, we run PVE PVP and try to keep a trader. Generally after someone has deposited for 4 weeks they can get access. Since I go after a trader I ask for 5k to trade, no pay no trade also no bank access. Been working well for me have not had a single thief since I begun doing that.

AzraelKrieg

Where's @ashlee17 when you need her and her topic.