Group bug from last patch notes still not fixed?!

DeadDealer

Fixed an issue where you would not appear to be grouped with other player characters after sending a group invite.
This also fixes the issue where it would appear as though a player character accepted an invite and immediately leaves.

NA PC
I just invited a player to the group
i was alone

i see message about he is left the group, immediately when he accepting invite
in fact the group was created, but i cant see it, cannot post in group chat either
it displayed like i am alone

if i relog to game - group appear and all become to normal

WHY THE HECK YOU STATED N PATCHNOTES YOU FIXED IT?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Sorry. Now that they put in the patch notes they have fixed it, they will no longer respond to post about it and they will pretend that it doesnt exsist.

Much like the dungeon finder.

DeadDealer

@vyndral13preub18_ESO and unfortunately it can be true lol

Glaiceana

Yeah still broken for me. EU/PC. See here also:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/283904/group-bugs-still-not-fixed#latest

@ZOS_GinaBruno

tryia3b14a_ESO

This saddens me to hear. The group bug was really messing up our Cyrodiil campaign last time I was doing pvp. I decided to hold off until it was fixed.

bunnytrix

Another instance of ZOS lying in their patch notes. Happens all the time. Pretend to fix something then act all (false) surprised that it is not fixed.

"we do have a fix for this going into Monday's incremental patch. Please let us know if you continue having the same issue after the patch is published. "

The bold part from Gina's post in the initial thread looks to me like they knew it wasn't going to be fixed.
So why put that fix in patch notes if there was not a fix?

When is it going to be fixed ? Grouping is a nightmare at the moment. People are unable to group for the new dungeons that they just paid for.

ZOS_GinaBruno

We did fix some cases of grouping not working properly in yesterday's patch, but there are still some edge cases we recently discovered and are currently working through those.

We're going to try and get a forum post up today or tomorrow to explain the current status of grouping and the Grouping Tool, and what we're doing to fix them.

dsalter

the high pitch sound bug still happens with most lightning based spells, natch potes betrayed me

booksmcread

I had the group bug a couple of times last night.

lonewolf26

Another interesting bug I haven't seen in a while happened last night to our group. Lead alted to another character without dropping from the group, and the crown stayed with his logged out character.

bunnytrix

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We did fix some cases of grouping not working properly in yesterday's patch, but there are still some edge cases we recently discovered and are currently working through those.

We're going to try and get a forum post up today or tomorrow to explain the current status of grouping and the Grouping Tool, and what we're doing to fix them.

Umm sorry no you didn't. It is exactly the same as before the patch. They are not "edge cases" they are all cases just as before the patch.
Also please be more specific. "Some cases of grouping not working properly." That tells us nothing. Please elaborate.

RavenRoxie

bunnytrix wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We did fix some cases of grouping not working properly in yesterday's patch, but there are still some edge cases we recently discovered and are currently working through those.

We're going to try and get a forum post up today or tomorrow to explain the current status of grouping and the Grouping Tool, and what we're doing to fix them.

Umm sorry no you didn't. It is exactly the same as before the patch. They are not "edge cases" they are all cases just as before the patch.
Also please be more specific. "Some cases of grouping not working properly." That tells us nothing. Please elaborate.

They did fix it, for some anyway. I had the group bug before the patch, after the patch I had no group issues. I guess you are "edgier" then me. sry bruh

vyndral13preub18_ESO

RavenRoxie wrote: »

bunnytrix wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We did fix some cases of grouping not working properly in yesterday's patch, but there are still some edge cases we recently discovered and are currently working through those.

We're going to try and get a forum post up today or tomorrow to explain the current status of grouping and the Grouping Tool, and what we're doing to fix them.

Umm sorry no you didn't. It is exactly the same as before the patch. They are not "edge cases" they are all cases just as before the patch.
Also please be more specific. "Some cases of grouping not working properly." That tells us nothing. Please elaborate.

They did fix it, for some anyway. I had the group bug before the patch, after the patch I had no group issues. I guess you are "edgier" then me. sry bruh

I guess I am too. I didnt have the group bug before the update. Now it does happen to me. So i went from being a no case, to an edge case.

Runs

I had the bug before the patch.

I didn't have the bug the day of the patch.

I have the bug again a day later.

MissBizz

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We did fix some cases of grouping not working properly in yesterday's patch, but there are still some edge cases we recently discovered and are currently working through those.

We're going to try and get a forum post up today or tomorrow to explain the current status of grouping and the Grouping Tool, and what we're doing to fix them.

Excited to see that post!

stevenbennett_ESO

I had this bug both before and after the patch. The group is being formed properly - just not displayed properly. It helped I was Skyping with the people I was grouping with at the time so they could actually say what they were seeing on their side.

Before the patch, it simply didn't display members I'd invited to my group, but they all reported they'd joined and could see me in the group. After the patch, it did the same, but also displayed a message at the top that they had left the group, even though they had not.

In both cases, I was able to switch zones using a way shrine and the group would appear. (I tried just /reloadui the second time, and it did NOT fix it.)

Note that in both cases I was forming the group by going to my friends list and inviting each friend from there.

Runs

The worst part about this bug, is if you are doing one of the Gold Coast WB quests and someone is in there fighting requests a group and share... If the bug occurs there is nothing anyone can do about it and the person who invites looks like a total *** who isn't willing to share the quest, because on the other end it looks like it's a proper group.

You can't just zone out/log out during combat.

MissBizz

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We did fix some cases of grouping not working properly in yesterday's patch, but there are still some edge cases we recently discovered and are currently working through those.

We're going to try and get a forum post up today or tomorrow to explain the current status of grouping and the Grouping Tool, and what we're doing to fix them.

@ZOS_GinaBruno Hey there! Just wondering if the forum post with some explanations about the group finder will still make it up today. (Or if it did already and I can't find it)

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

MissBizz wrote: »

Hey there! Just wondering if the forum post with some explanations about the group finder will still make it up today. (Or if it did already and I can't find it)

We're working on writing this post, though we may need to wait until tomorrow to post it. We want to make sure we get the following details crystal clear:

• What grouping issues we're currently tracking
• What those grouping issues look like in-game (and how/if they're impacting LFG tool functionality for those impacted)
• What the ETA is for fixes

MissBizz

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Hey there! Just wondering if the forum post with some explanations about the group finder will still make it up today. (Or if it did already and I can't find it)

We're working on writing this post, though we may need to wait until tomorrow to post it. We want to make sure we get the following details crystal clear:

• What grouping issues we're currently tracking
• What those grouping issues look like in-game (and how/if they're impacting LFG tool functionality for those impacted)
• What the ETA is for fixes

Awesome! I'm happy just hearing the post is still being worked on. Thanks for the update!

DeadDealer

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

also add to the list
- queue by grouping tool
- as intended roles changer become locked, only role you choose before queuing is active
- re-open groping tool ui: you can change roles, they become unlocked it must be unintended, while you still in queue

- my dk-healer very often become no-role man when joined any groups, so i need very often to set healer role again and again

disintegr8

Look forward to seeing the details.

ordie1980b14_ESO

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom


Does this include any info on the console versions.....cause good glob!

paulsgruff

I know this is kind of unrelated to the problems being talked about in this thread, where grouping up in the first place is an issue, however there are other annoyances with the group finder that I and the people I play with run into daily when trying to play random dungeons.

I regularly play with the same people in a 3 person group, all either having all DLCs or ESO Plus, so we generally need only one more player to complete our party. Due to the group tool either taking ages to find someone, or not working at all, we mostly advertise in zone chat and add somebody that way. Then, when we try to join a dungeon, we often get a message saying not all members of the party have DLC content. If the game is smart enough to detect this and give us an error, why can't it just decide to queue us for base game dungeons (that everybody has) only? As it stands, we have to give the group leadership to the newly invited person and let them queue us for the queuing to work. This is inconvenient if we have different interests after the dungeon is finished, considering the power to disband the group is no longer with the majority and using the group tool is problematic right now.

We also get a prompt when we have a full party telling us our roles are incompatible if we don't have a designated healer and tank. I can understand this being a requirement for grouping 4 random single people together effectively, but if we've made a group ourselves and want to go as 4 damage dealers just for fun and use the group finder to pick us a random one, we have to all change our roles to all 3 possible roles, tank, healer and damage dealer for it to even attempt to find us a dungeon, despite the group being full. This message about role incompatibility, in my opinion, should work like a ready check, where it notifies everybody that there is a specific role missing, but do we want continue anyway?

Neither of these are really game breakers, but are problematic if we end up inviting a randomer who doesn't speak English too well, as communicating these steps isn't always easy for them to understand.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Darius771

I usually send a group invite, when player accept my invite it show to me "player x" left to group and none is showed in my group, like if I'm not in a group. If I relogin the group is showed normally. And about group finder it never worked for me since last patch, even flagged all roles.

Iselin

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

[*] What those grouping issues look like in-game (and how/if they're impacting LFG tool functionality for those impacted)

I've heard that "those impacted" bit before.

Are you saying we're not ALL seeing these multi-hour queues even as a tank or healer during prime time hours?

News to me.

MissBizz

MissBizz wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Hey there! Just wondering if the forum post with some explanations about the group finder will still make it up today. (Or if it did already and I can't find it)

We're working on writing this post, though we may need to wait until tomorrow to post it. We want to make sure we get the following details crystal clear:

• What grouping issues we're currently tracking
• What those grouping issues look like in-game (and how/if they're impacting LFG tool functionality for those impacted)
• What the ETA is for fixes

Awesome! I'm happy just hearing the post is still being worked on. Thanks for the update!

Just doing my daily check on if the group finder and grouping bug post has been put up yet

bunnytrix

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We're going to try and get a forum post up today or tomorrow to explain the current status of grouping and the Grouping Tool, and what we're doing to fix them.

Also eagerly awaiting this, and already a day later than promised.

"We're working on writing this post, though we may need to wait until tomorrow to post it. We want to make sure we get the following details crystal clear:

What grouping issues we're currently tracking
What those grouping issues look like in-game (and how/if they're impacting LFG tool functionality for those impacted)
What the ETA is for fixes"

You mean your team are still not clear about what the problems are ?

The group finder, and grouping without it to (try to) run a dungeon with friends, is broken in so many ways I hope you will cover everything, as it gets worse with every update and you do nothing to fix it.
At this stage you really need to take it down, and totally re-design it until you have a fully functional. working, bug free grouping tool. You know, like every other MMO on the market has. So the people who pay you their hard earned money for a dungeon based dlc can, you know, group up freely without any problems.

I hope it's not like the response to Orsinium and Grahtwood crashes. "Don't go there!"

Player 1: Group Finders not working. I have been queued as a tank for 3 hours and still no group forms. Queued as a DD for 7 hours yesterday with no group forming.
Player 2: Trying to form a group with my friends to run the new dungeons we just purchased, but having all kinds of problems. Just unable to form a group. "Failed to join group"...."player does not have dlc"....etc..
Player 3: Just managed to get into a group for today's pledge after waiting for 5 hours but the leader left the group. Now the rest of us have a penalty and can't reform...etc...

ZOS: Don't form groups! We are working on fixing it, honestly. But we wont tell you when it will be fixed. In the meantime do something else. And don't forget to visit the crown store to purchase Shadows of the Hist featuring 2 new dungeons you will need to group up with your fr.....Oh wait! Uh oh! You know you don't have to be here right ?

Smasherx74

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We did fix some cases of grouping not working properly in yesterday's patch, but there are still some edge cases we recently discovered and are currently working through those.

We're going to try and get a forum post up today or tomorrow to explain the current status of grouping and the Grouping Tool, and what we're doing to fix them.

Just fix it instead of making excuses.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Hi.

booksmcread

@ZOS_GinaBruno

I never experienced this issue before the "fix." Now I can't invite or join any groups because it's happening ALL the time now.