Group finder tool.

Astriya

I am new to this game, just started playing with a friend two weeks ago. Every day we group together for quests and exploration. While we are questing we join the daily normal dungeon finder. Every day we sit in the queue for at least 4 hours and never get into a dungeon. Does the tool work at all?

I have never once had it put me in a dungeon group even on a day when I sat in it for 6 hours straight.

My friend and I are AD and joining the dungeon finder as tank and dps.

Garldeen

It did work (not perfectly but serviceable) until the recent PC/Mac update. Ever since the new DLC it doesn't seem to be working

raidentenshu_ESO

It's a common problem.

Astriya

Thanks for the quick reply. I wasn't sure if it was a normal occurrence or a bug with the game.

Garldeen

Astriya wrote: »

Thanks for the quick reply. I wasn't sure if it was a normal occurrence or a bug with the game.

Not sure if you are in any Guilds but might be worth joining a couple of those. They are often collections of people getting similar woe from the GF tool. Finding a group via the Guild chat can be much faster than waiting for the GF tool

idk

If both of you are dps/damage dealers the wait can be long. Most players character are damage dealers. Your waiting for a tank and healed to queue to a point where both of you are the next dps in line for a group. In the MMOs I've played dps wait.

Yes. Find a good guild. Some are more active than others.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Astriya wrote: »

I wasn't sure if it was a normal occurrence or a bug with the game.

Sadly there is no or.

It is a normal occurence and a bug with the game. Hopefully todays maintenance did something?

S'yn

Grouping tool is completely useless in its current iteration. Hopefully the devs will give it the attention it deserves and get it fixed, like now!

If you are looking for party members, you will have far better luck asking in zone or guild chat that waiting on the grouping tool.

Garldeen

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

If both of you are dps/damage dealers the wait can be long. Most players character are damage dealers. Your waiting for a tank and healed to queue to a point where both of you are the next dps in line for a group. In the MMOs I've played dps wait.

I've always wondered about this 'rule' I accept that there are far more DPS than tanks or healers, but how many more. A group is 25% healer, 25% tank and 50% damage. It would be interesting to see how the character breakdown lays. I can't see it being massively off this. Maybe damage is closer to 60% of the player base, but given that twice as many are needed in groups the wait shouldn't be massively more.

I accept that it is but the maths suggests that it shouldn't be as bad.

grom1024

Finder worked just fine for tanks and heals before DB update. DD had a problem as I heard (never tried with DD at that time). They have broken something at DB update and now it does not works for heals and tanks as well.

Grakor456

wonkydog wrote: »

I've always wondered about this 'rule' I accept that there are far more DPS than tanks or healers, but how many more. A group is 25% healer, 25% tank and 50% damage. It would be interesting to see how the character breakdown lays. I can't see it being massively off this. Maybe damage is closer to 60% of the player base, but given that twice as many are needed in groups the wait shouldn't be massively more.

I accept that it is but the maths suggests that it shouldn't be as bad.

Keep in mind that other MMOs have similar problems with much better proportions. World of Warcraft has 5-man parties, for example, so holds a 20/20/60 proportion. Yet it still has significant problems with damage dealers having significantly longer waiting times than healers or tanks in any PvE content.

I'd say that damage dealers in reality probably make much closer to around 80% of an MMOs playerbase, perhaps even more.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Grakor456 wrote: »

wonkydog wrote: »

I've always wondered about this 'rule' I accept that there are far more DPS than tanks or healers, but how many more. A group is 25% healer, 25% tank and 50% damage. It would be interesting to see how the character breakdown lays. I can't see it being massively off this. Maybe damage is closer to 60% of the player base, but given that twice as many are needed in groups the wait shouldn't be massively more.

I accept that it is but the maths suggests that it shouldn't be as bad.

Keep in mind that other MMOs have similar problems with much better proportions. World of Warcraft has 5-man parties, for example, so holds a 20/20/60 proportion. Yet it still has significant problems with damage dealers having significantly longer waiting times than healers or tanks in any PvE content.

I'd say that damage dealers in reality probably make much closer to around 80% of an MMOs playerbase, perhaps even more.

While i agree with there being more dd then tanks or healers here is my problem with the idea that, the role balance is fully to blame.

After TG and before DB when i really started using the group finder as a dps, i would normally wait 2-10ish minutes. Long waits were 20 minutes. By 30 minutes i would estimate i had been place in a group 99% of the time.

After DB I would say that approaching the 3 hour mark 99% of the time i have not found a group and i give up.

To think the only problem is role selection would mean that over nite the dd population soared so high or the tank/healer pop dropped so low that a normal 2-10 minute queue was made into a over 3 hour queue.

Altercator

It's broke. It used to work and now it doesn't.

jmurray704

It's a broken tool that ZOS seems to enjoy overlooking and neglecting for some unknown reason.... It's a pathetic state the "developers" have made this game into. If any of these "developers" worked anywhere else and put out this crappy of code without fixing problems, they would all be terminated!

karldavy149b16_ESO

just que tank and u get a insta pop ... 100% of all normal dungeons can be done with 3 dps and a healer .....

i can confirm the group finder is in the shitter atm i qued every day as a tank pre 2.5 it was insta pop now it never pops

exeeter702

People need to stop derailing these thread, seriously.


It's not a issue with dps having an inherently longer queue time.

It's not an issue with not enough people not using the tool.

Telling people to join a guild or form manually is only side stepping the issue.

The tool is utterly and completely broken. Anyone here or anywhere else that tells you it's fine, is an incredibly rare exception to the rule OR they are queuing via the finder as a full group and have no idea what they are even talking about.

The tool is broken, it was working well enough in the TG update but since DB update and now, on ALL platforms, not just pc, but ps4 and xbox as well, the tool is *** broken and it's getting ridiculous.

PsYcHoGBR

Grakor456 wrote: »

wonkydog wrote: »

I've always wondered about this 'rule' I accept that there are far more DPS than tanks or healers, but how many more. A group is 25% healer, 25% tank and 50% damage. It would be interesting to see how the character breakdown lays. I can't see it being massively off this. Maybe damage is closer to 60% of the player base, but given that twice as many are needed in groups the wait shouldn't be massively more.

I accept that it is but the maths suggests that it shouldn't be as bad.

Keep in mind that other MMOs have similar problems with much better proportions. World of Warcraft has 5-man parties, for example, so holds a 20/20/60 proportion. Yet it still has significant problems with damage dealers having significantly longer waiting times than healers or tanks in any PvE content.

I'd say that damage dealers in reality probably make much closer to around 80% of an MMOs playerbase, perhaps even more.

Don't know when you played wow last but DPS are in dungeons within 15-30 minutes off peak and peak it can be 5-15 minutes. I think ZoS should scrap this crappy broken group finder and start a new system as this has never worked continuously since launch.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

The thing that annoys me most is since the last patch when they said they fixed it, they havent even mentioned the problem.

No we looked into and is seems to be working. No we are looking into it. No we thought we got it but this bug has many heads. Nothing.

I dont know maybe it is out there and i missed it.

Astriya

Ok, so the group finder just isn't working properly. Is there a bug forum for this kind of thing? I didn't see anything here for reporting bugs.