Are players cheating to remove scrolls from keeps?

pecheckler

Twice today i've seen "enemy player" has picked up scroll, immediately followed by them dropping it and an allied player picking it up (while still inside friendly keep on map). The scroll is then carried all the way across the map (by the allied player who retrieved it) into enemy territory, where they then die and the enemy picks it up.

How is this happening? What does this mean? What can we do about it? Certainly there must be a measure in place to prevent this?

Lettigall

Welcome to Cyrodiil!

lygerseye

Step 1: find faction-friend with an alt in another faction.
Step 2: get faction-friend to stand with their alt on a keep wall and let you dragon-leap up to them.
Step 3: allow faction-friend to get to the top floor of inner keep while you hide on top of an outer wall tower
Step 4: repeat step 2
Step 5: grab scroll and drop for faction-friend to run back to your home faction

Smasherx74

lygerseye wrote: »

Step 1: find faction-friend with an alt in another faction.
Step 2: get faction-friend to stand with their alt on a keep wall and let you dragon-leap up to them.
Step 3: allow faction-friend to get to the top floor of inner keep while you hide on top of an outer wall tower
Step 4: repeat step 2
Step 5: grab scroll and drop for faction-friend to run back to your home faction

Just let the whole world know why don't you?

pecheckler

Shouldn't they get banned for doing this?

Hadan_of_Rift

lygerseye wrote: »

Step 1: find faction-friend with an alt in another faction.
Step 2: get faction-friend to stand with their alt on a keep wall and let you dragon-leap up to them.
Step 3: allow faction-friend to get to the top floor of inner keep while you hide on top of an outer wall tower
Step 4: repeat step 2
Step 5: grab scroll and drop for faction-friend to run back to your home faction

^ This - If you're a cheater, you cheat. It's what you do. If you want to save 15% or more on car insurance, you switch to GEICO. It's what you do.

starkerealm

pecheckler wrote: »

Shouldn't they get banned for doing this?

Yes.

pecheckler

This is *** stupid. We've gone from 5 down to 2 scrolls in just a few hours. The same player names show up each time. I've reported the player but what else can I do? It's not like we can attack a friendly player. This seems like some *** that should have been sorted out before beta testing finished.

lygerseye

Smasherx74 wrote: »

lygerseye wrote: »

Step 1: find faction-friend with an alt in another faction.
Step 2: get faction-friend to stand with their alt on a keep wall and let you dragon-leap up to them.
Step 3: allow faction-friend to get to the top floor of inner keep while you hide on top of an outer wall tower
Step 4: repeat step 2
Step 5: grab scroll and drop for faction-friend to run back to your home faction

Just let the whole world know why don't you?

The more who know about it, the more likely cheaters will get reported. Besides, if you didn't know about it already, you haven't been reading the forums much.

Runs

Have you tried putting the players who are doing this on ignore?

Hadan_of_Rift

Runs wrote: »

Have you tried putting the players who are doing this on ignore?

LOL! What? How is putting cheaters on ignore helping anything?

Runs

Hadan_of_Rift wrote: »

Runs wrote: »

Have you tried putting the players who are doing this on ignore?

LOL! What? How is putting cheaters on ignore helping anything?

It doesn't but that's the advice we are given when we submit a report.

stevepdodson_ESO888

Hadan_of_Rift wrote: »

Runs wrote: »

Have you tried putting the players who are doing this on ignore?

LOL! What? How is putting cheaters on ignore helping anything?

ZOS standard response...you need to learn this one also

Bam_Bam

Hadan_of_Rift wrote: »

If you want to save 15% or more on car insurance, you switch to GEICO. It's what you do.

Ummmm dunno if it's just me but WTF are you babbling on about?

Pheefs

Runs wrote: »

Have you tried putting the players who are doing this on ignore?

Dude, I don't see how that will help with the scroll stealing.


Its not honorable, but I'm not sure its really "cheating" either... the wall leap thing is an old exploit.
& all our guilds cross factions, so its pre-arranged for them to be sneaky with it.

pecheckler wrote: »

It's not like we can attack a friendly player.

Yeah, that's the part that really twists my ears! to stop them we need our own alts in another faction to attack the traitor

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO

Runs wrote: »

Have you tried putting the players who are doing this on blast?

There you go. I corrected this for you.

jircris11

competitive game play, it has devolved in to a cheat fest no mater what the game. CoD/BF/CS you name it, anything with a competitive aspect will have cheaters.

Knightpanther

Hence why many of us stopped doing PvPer years ago

jircris11 wrote: »

competitive game play, it has devolved in to a cheat fest no mater what the game. CoD/BF/CS you name it, anything with a competitive aspect will have cheaters.

Hence why many of us stopped doing PvPer years ago

Ulfgarde

pecheckler wrote: »

Shouldn't they get banned for doing this?

I would say so, but most of the time, these cheaters get away way too often. Even if you report them, ZOS seems to not care.

kargen27

Runs wrote: »

Hadan_of_Rift wrote: »

Runs wrote: »

Have you tried putting the players who are doing this on ignore?

LOL! What? How is putting cheaters on ignore helping anything?

It doesn't but that's the advice we are given when we submit a report.

Oh you lucky bas+#$* what I wouldn't give to receive such advice. When I submit a report they tell me how to get my player unstuck.

CJohnson81

Yes

Forestd16b14_ESO

Sad part is this didn't used to be as bad as it is now cause if I can recall ZoS didn't allow alt characters on the same campaign as one another. So it was 1 character for 1 campaign but think that got removed when we were knocked down from like 8 campaigns to 4 and 2 of the are specialty campaigns so really we went from 8 to 2.

starkerealm

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Sad part is this didn't used to be as bad as it is now cause if I can recall ZoS didn't allow alt characters on the same campaign as one another. So it was 1 character for 1 campaign but think that got removed when we were knocked down from like 8 campaigns to 4 and 2 of the are specialty campaigns so really we went from 8 to 2.

Oh... I thought that restriction was still in effect. I haven't had alts in Cyrodiil for months because I didn't think I could stick them in a campaign.

Narnor

Hmm. Sounds like the person with the alt committed treason (securing access to an allied keep, filthy spy)

And you know. Treason is treason.

So i suggest off with his head and throw the soul into oblivion (delete char) and ban the family (the account) from entering cyrodill.

Nobody wants bad blood on their side on the battlefield.

teladoy

Hehehehehehehr hahahaha hohohohoho Hahahahahaha!

Mayrael

I would like to send my best regards to Ska**a since we have this thread here yeah it should be baned without mercy.

Bromburak

jircris11 wrote: »

competitive game play

The problem is that ESO never provided a fair environment for competitive PvP.
If players or a faction succeeds is decided by lags, bugged sets, cheating, CP offset, gap closer exploiter, cross faction hopping while campaigns are running etc..

In other words, the worst setting for serious PvP.

Lettigall

You can't do anything about those "spies" and ZOS won't do anything! Allowing alts of different factions in same campaign was really stupid move from ZOS!

pecheckler

UltimaJoe777

So this is what I was told when I posted about this on Cheats & Exploits:

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

It's been brought up several times and ZOS has called it a clever use of game mechanics in the past .

If this info is correct then there is nothing that can be done. However, if they are abusing the gap closer exploit to jump keep walls THEN you can report them, but you must catch them in the act.

Runs

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