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Thaumaturge -Does it effect biting jabs/rally/vigor?
Scora
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Im curious as to what thaumaturge actually effects in terms of DoT's. hwat counts as a DoT in terms for a templar?
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Robbmrp✭✭✭✭✭
✭Any damage DoT that does poison, magic or disease damage should be increased with thaumaturge. It only affects damage spells, so no Vigor or other HoT heals.Edited by Robbmrp on August 5, 2016 2:35PMNA Server - Kildair0 -
Acsvf✭✭✭Vigor doesn't deal damage, it can't be a DoT.
Jabs is a DoT. Radiant destruction is a DoT. Sun Fire is a DoT. Anything that can even remotely be classified as a DoT is a DoT.
IIRC it's just any DoT.Any damage DoT that does poison, magic or disease damageEdited by Acsvf on August 5, 2016 2:47PM@LightArray
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d8rmir✭✭✭Also elemental and physical dots.
Jabs are channeled so they count as dots and should be affected by thaumaturge. I say "should" because this has been bugged many times.
Heals from rally and vigor don't.0 -
Smasherx74✭✭✭✭✭
✭Putting points into Wep damage/disease/posion is better than Thaurmage for jabs, once you max it out then put 40 or so into thaurmage or penetration depending on your build.Master Debater0 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Smasherx74 wrote: »Putting points into Wep damage/disease/posion is better than Thaurmage for jabs, once you max it out then put 40 or so into thaurmage or penetration depending on your build.
Not necesarily. At 72 CPs you have an increase of 20% out of 25% dmg, so you need 28 points to get the 5% extra. Those 28 points put on Thaum will increase the dmg close to 10% so those 100 CPs will increase jabs dmg a 25% (only in thaum or mighty) while if yo spread them in 28 and 72, they increase jabs dmg in a 30%
Anyway, people still put 100 cps into mighty because they increase dmg to other abilities that are not DoTs, such as Dizz swing or crit rush. Nevertheless, a 20% extra dmg (elemental or mighty) through CPS to favor a DoT is not a bad idea if your buid is done around DoTs or if it's able to buff its own dmg.
For example a DW templar using top charge as gap closer (being a magicka based gap closer doesn't do much dmg) blood craze/flying blade and jabs is favored by that CPs distribution. Ok, you will say that top charge is not the best option, but the stun is great for DW attacks through the ruffian passive (25% extra dmg), and flying blade gives you the beloved major brutality buff, making your jabs even stronger.Edited by Xvorg on August 5, 2016 6:20PMSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique1 -
Evil_Rurouni✭✭✭BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Is wrecking blow a dot?
No, chaneled skills isnt dot.
Some channelled skills are classed as DoTs, but wrecking blow isn't one of them.
Put simply, if it's able to damage a single enemy more than once from a single activation, it's classed as a DoT and benefits from Thaumaturge.
That's why jabs is boosted by thaumaturge but wrecking blow isn't, even though both both are channelled attacks.0 -
kadar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Does anyone know if they fixed the bugged tooltips? For awhile Thaumaturge was increasing my Snipe Tooltip damage.0 -
Acsvf✭✭✭
No, all channeled damage abilities are DoTs. Wrecking blow isn't channeled, it just has a cast time.Evil_Rurouni wrote: »BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Is wrecking blow a dot?
No, chaneled skills isnt dot.
Some channelled skills are classed as DoTs, but wrecking blow isn't one of them.
Put simply, if it's able to damage a single enemy more than once from a single activation, it's classed as a DoT and benefits from Thaumaturge.
That's why jabs is boosted by thaumaturge but wrecking blow isn't, even though both both are channelled attacks.
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Evil_Rurouni✭✭✭
No, all channeled damage abilities are DoTs. Wrecking blow isn't channeled, it just has a cast time.Evil_Rurouni wrote: »BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Is wrecking blow a dot?
No, chaneled skills isnt dot.
Some channelled skills are classed as DoTs, but wrecking blow isn't one of them.
Put simply, if it's able to damage a single enemy more than once from a single activation, it's classed as a DoT and benefits from Thaumaturge.
That's why jabs is boosted by thaumaturge but wrecking blow isn't, even though both both are channelled attacks.
Ah, I heard a few players referring to powers such as wrecking blow and snipe as channeled and thought the term just referred to any non-instant cast skill, my bad.0 -
Bakven✭✭✭Ok, I'm theorycrafting a DoT magblade build that proc's skoria. So I have to ask, what DoTs are there (both class and weapon) that get the buff from thurmaturge and proc skoria? I've looked at a bunch that are classified as dot's, but because I haven't tested it yet i'd like to know what skills are classified as DoTs that proc skoria that I might have over looked. i.e. does entropy, the flame damage from destructive reach, enchantments, poisons, etc.. proc skoria and/or get the buff from thurmaturge?EP NA Haderus
Iscangar- Mageblade (retired pvp; pve only now)
Emlyn Medresi - Magicka DK
Soon to come
Vash'rassa- Stamblade
-Tiffany - Stam DK
Trokaar - Mageblade (vamp/Iscangar 2.0)0 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ok, I'm theorycrafting a DoT magblade build that proc's skoria. So I have to ask, what DoTs are there (both class and weapon) that get the buff from thurmaturge and proc skoria? I've looked at a bunch that are classified as dot's, but because I haven't tested it yet i'd like to know what skills are classified as DoTs that proc skoria that I might have over looked. i.e. does entropy, the flame damage from destructive reach, enchantments, poisons, etc.. proc skoria and/or get the buff from thurmaturge?
As a NB, these are your dots (all magicka):
1- VoB
2- Soul Tether
3- Path of darkness (both morphs)
4- Agony (both morphs)
5- Cripple (both Morphs)
As stam user (physical dmg), you have:
1- Carve (both morphs)
2- Axe Bleed (2H and DW)
3- Twin Slashes (both morphs)
4- Flurry (both morphs)
5- Blade cloak (both morphs)
6- Poison arrow (both morphs)
7- Volley (both morphs)
8- Acid spray
9- Lethal Arrow
10- Dawnbreaker (both mophs)
11- Trap beast (both morphs)
12- Caltrops (both morphs)
13- WW light attack
14- Infectious claws
As magicka user (magic/elemental dmg) you have
1- Shock/resto basic attack
2- Destro touch (all morphs)
3- WoE (all morphs)
4- Elemental Ring (all morphs)
5- Entropy (bothg morphs)
6- Scalding rune
7- Meteor (both morphs)
8- Soul strike (both morphs)
9- Soul trap (both morphs)
10- Scorching Flare
11- Bat swarm (both morphs)
12- Baleful mist
All of them proc skoria.Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique1 -
Bakven✭✭✭Ok, I'm theorycrafting a DoT magblade build that proc's skoria. So I have to ask, what DoTs are there (both class and weapon) that get the buff from thurmaturge and proc skoria? I've looked at a bunch that are classified as dot's, but because I haven't tested it yet i'd like to know what skills are classified as DoTs that proc skoria that I might have over looked. i.e. does entropy, the flame damage from destructive reach, enchantments, poisons, etc.. proc skoria and/or get the buff from thurmaturge?
As a NB, these are your dots (all magicka):
1- VoB
2- Soul Tether
3- Path of darkness (both morphs)
4- Agony (both morphs)
5- Cripple (both Morphs)
As stam user (physical dmg), you have:
1- Carve (both morphs)
2- Axe Bleed (2H and DW)
3- Twin Slashes (both morphs)
4- Flurry (both morphs)
5- Blade cloak (both morphs)
6- Poison arrow (both morphs)
7- Volley (both morphs)
8- Acid spray
9- Lethal Arrow
10- Dawnbreaker (both mophs)
11- Trap beast (both morphs)
12- Caltrops (both morphs)
13- WW light attack
14- Infectious claws
As magicka user (magic/elemental dmg) you have
1- Shock/resto basic attack
2- Destro touch (all morphs)
3- WoE (all morphs)
4- Elemental Ring (all morphs)
5- Entropy (bothg morphs)
6- Scalding rune
7- Meteor (both morphs)
8- Soul strike (both morphs)
9- Soul trap (both morphs)
10- Scorching Flare
11- Bat swarm (both morphs)
12- Baleful mist
All of them proc skoria.
Thank you kindly
EP NA Haderus
Iscangar- Mageblade (retired pvp; pve only now)
Emlyn Medresi - Magicka DK
Soon to come
Vash'rassa- Stamblade
-Tiffany - Stam DK
Trokaar - Mageblade (vamp/Iscangar 2.0)0
