First Veteran AA and HRC hardmode clears

Woeler

Vaoh wrote: »

@Woeler

Has anyone earned the Dro-m'Athra Destroyer title yet?

Hey, as Yolo said, nobody yet. The only thing that is failing for most of us is the hardmode. No death is not needed.

And everyone thanks for the nice reactions!

Vaoh

Good luck with defeating Rakkhat on Hard Mode. I'm sure you all can do it. Be some of the first (and only) players to run around with the Dro-m'Athra Destroyer title!

f047ys3v3n

Tried this with some of the very best players I know today. Remembering the old ways we loaded up on ranged builds and honestly didn't have much trouble on the first bosses once we figured out a strat for the stone one that had never really required a strat before. I really can't believe the dps check on that hard mode boss. I am even more amazed that people can do this. The sorc in your video is at 41k at the 8 min mark. That is just amazing. I also found your few group deaths very impressive. I think I only counted 2. Congrats.

f047ys3v3n

I remember seeing a video of this AA complete from a sorc dps point of view but now I can't find it. I think maybe there was another post as I also remember him saying how he was geared. Does anybody have the links to this?

Woeler

f047ys3v3n wrote: »

I remember seeing a video of this AA complete from a sorc dps point of view but now I can't find it. I think maybe there was another post as I also remember him saying how he was geared. Does anybody have the links to this?

That was our sorcerer Aninah, and you're looking for his video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2qV226vTM

Benawaw89

well fitted also cleared it too :P



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_8jKQX59rQ&feature=youtu.be

f047ys3v3n

Woeler wrote: »

That was our sorcerer Aninah, and you're looking for his video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2qV226vTM

I've continued to watch your video and have some questions/coments:
1) It appeared to me that you had only 1 primary healer. Did any of your other players have back bar heals for burn phase or can this be healed by 1x healer?

2) You appeared to have 100% veil up time in burn phase. I have noted before, on the VSO troll fight, that this takes 3x nb's to do. Was this the reason for the 3x nb's in your group and were they all ranged mag nb's?

3) Very clever using the splash damage and executes of ranged sorcs to give you ranged players without the big dps loss associated. I had no idea ranged sorcs could dial up so high on fights with multiple enemies in close proximity. It sure seams like a very effective way to do this fight. Was only the sorc in the video this set up though? It seemed like you had 5x melee dps and 4x ranged. That sorc, as a ranged player, was pulling around 39k in the first phase in a group that averaged more like 33k. Given the relatively low output of ranged builds these days that sorc build in this fight seemed worth it's weight in gold. Being a ranged mag nb for my primary dps I would love to know what yours were pulling. I was only at 23k at our times of wipe on this fight though I have no vMA staff which seems to be worth about 3k. Were your NB's the lowest group in dps? Makes me think back to the time of being a veil *** in trials in 1.5.

4) Your warhorns were very sporadic. Was this because many players weren't running them or because they were happening in the melee group and the sorc filming the video was usually not near enough to get them? Do you think they are worthwhile in this fight or, do to the spread, rather lackluster?

5) Love the 20k health per person. I have been pushing for this since VSO dropped. Everybody says yea, sounds like a good idea but comes to the next raid with 17k and can't figure out why they are dead all the time. Seems like these updated trials are scaled with somewhere around that as a min health requirement in mind. Very different then vMA and vMoL. Thanks for helping me make my point.

Woeler

f047ys3v3n wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

That was our sorcerer Aninah, and you're looking for his video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2qV226vTM

I've continued to watch your video and have some questions/coments:
1) It appeared to me that you had only 1 primary healer. Did any of your other players have back bar heals for burn phase or can this be healed by 1x healer?

2) You appeared to have 100% veil up time in burn phase. I have noted before, on the VSO troll fight, that this takes 3x nb's to do. Was this the reason for the 3x nb's in your group and were they all ranged mag nb's?

3) Very clever using the splash damage and executes of ranged sorcs to give you ranged players without the big dps loss associated. I had no idea ranged sorcs could dial up so high on fights with multiple enemies in close proximity. It sure seams like a very effective way to do this fight. Was only the sorc in the video this set up though? It seemed like you had 5x melee dps and 4x ranged. That sorc, as a ranged player, was pulling around 39k in the first phase in a group that averaged more like 33k. Given the relatively low output of ranged builds these days that sorc build in this fight seemed worth it's weight in gold. Being a ranged mag nb for my primary dps I would love to know what yours were pulling. I was only at 23k at our times of wipe on this fight though I have no vMA staff which seems to be worth about 3k. Were your NB's the lowest group in dps? Makes me think back to the time of being a veil *** in trials in 1.5.

4) Your warhorns were very sporadic. Was this because many players weren't running them or because they were happening in the melee group and the sorc filming the video was usually not near enough to get them? Do you think they are worthwhile in this fight or, do to the spread, rather lackluster?

5) Love the 20k health per person. I have been pushing for this since VSO dropped. Everybody says yea, sounds like a good idea but comes to the next raid with 17k and can't figure out why they are dead all the time. Seems like these updated trials are scaled with somewhere around that as a min health requirement in mind. Very different then vMA and vMoL. Thanks for helping me make my point.

1) We had two fully dedicated healers. Excelsiore and Divayht Fyr.

2) We did not have 100% veil uptime, we also used Nova's. This was not the reason for taking nightblades. These are just the classes these players like to play.

3) Our ranges nightblades also pull close to 34-38k damage on this fight. Everybody averaged out on numbers around that basically. Also I have no idea where you get the information from that the group averages at 33k dps. You can't just do bosshealth / time because there is dozends of atro's and mini mages. Also, the execute damage was never a reason to put sorcs on range, we put sorcs on range because sorcs can play ranged and melee on this boss is simply limited.

4) That's simply because this was the first night we did this fight and we we're not acquainted to it. Horns are always worth using.

5) That's actually not a requirement but simply a result of certain combinations of sets as that person has undaunted fully used, heavy armor passives, twice born star and the Ebon bonus from our off-tank, also that person is a nightblade so he passively gets more health from the shadow tree. The other NB have lower health because they are running scarhing mage. 18-17k is fine, our DD's even survived VMOL Hard Mode with it. There is no reason for DD's to spec anything on health.

Actually, the whole fight (because it was the first clear of this particular content) is completely chaotic and unorganised. Many things just happened and there is really not a reason for it to be honest.

Sorry to disappoint you, but there is really no well coordinated tactic and setup we used here. We were missing core members that night so we could not go VMOL hardmode and just thought "Lol lets just go AA". XD

I don't think it is a good idea to analyze this clear for the tactics, because there barely were any tactics and this clear is quite bad and chaotic. A mess really. We only uploaded it to show we were the first basically. We've done it a second time now woth an 87k score, and that run was well thought out and planned.

Sorry, I can't make more of it than it is and I'd rather just be honest about it

forgottengd

Ok, I see teams show us they cleared HM of AA and HRC, and I want to say that Aetherius Raid in non-core group cleared it too (we walk there first time). Unfortunately I have screenshot of my dps from Mage only as proof
In AA we lost our RL Fecius at 75% of boss and killed him in 11 ppl

f047ys3v3n

Woeler wrote: »

3) Our ranges nightblades also pull close to 34-38k damage on this fight. Everybody averaged out on numbers around that basically. Also I have no idea where you get the information from that the group averages at 33k dps. You can't just do bosshealth / time because there is dozends of atro's and mini mages. Also, the execute damage was never a reason to put sorcs on range, we put sorcs on range because sorcs can play ranged and melee on this boss is simply limited.

I took the 295k group dps from the combat metrics on the sorcs add on and divided it by 9 assuming you had 2 healers. Both your, and the sorcs, group frames switch colors all the time for no apparent reason so I really wasn't sure what to make of the role of different players. Divided by 8 for 2 dedicated healers the group dps comes out to 37k each during the first phase.