So....Player Housing

Epona222 · August 2016

magnusthorek wrote: »

Please, let us build them, like in Skyrim's Heartfires but with a more comprehensive and expanded way.

Of course, pre-made kits are necessary to make it viable, but not restrict our choices to basically one model structure to maximize space (all of the other formats were too tiny)

I miss my Lakeview Manor so much...

That's not going to happen, on PC a lot of the houses are now already in place (although currently inaccessible) and they aren't blank plots of land, they are already buildings.

Just letting you know because I don't want you to be holding out for something that isn't going to happen.

MarkusLiberty · August 2016

No Imperial housing? ZOS plz

I highly expect there will be player housing in the various DLC zones as well. So a house on the Gold Coast is probably your best bet.

There's also the rumoured/datamined Colovian Estates DLC, which would likely cover the areas around Skingrad. If the city is anything like in Oblivion it will certainly be a stunning place to live.

I'm personally saving my crowns for a house in Abah's Landing, the interior architecture for that city is beautiful.

Fishoscandi · August 2016

I just hope housing doesn't turn out the same as costume dyeing.

Tessie · August 2016

Fishoscandi wrote: »

I just hope housing doesn't turn out the same as costume dyeing.

What do you mean? Costume dying is amazing! I love the variety that it gives.

Fishoscandi · August 2016

Tessie wrote: »

Fishoscandi wrote: »

I just hope housing doesn't turn out the same as costume dyeing.

What do you mean? Costume dying is amazing! I love the variety that it gives.

I agree, costume dyeing is amazing, but that variety is mostly for ESO+ players. If the non ESO+ players want to dye their costume/hat they would have to buy pre-selected packs which destroyes the variety a bit. When housing comes and ESO+ players get to customize their house how they want and non ESO+ players have to select from pre selected house layouts, I honestly wouldn't be suprised.

PrinceOfWorms · August 2016

Relevant to my interests.
We could have our houses in an unreachable place others can't get to without an invitation. Or like... an apartment complex thing.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · August 2016

Fishoscandi wrote: »

Tessie wrote: »

Fishoscandi wrote: »

I just hope housing doesn't turn out the same as costume dyeing.

What do you mean? Costume dying is amazing! I love the variety that it gives.

I agree, costume dyeing is amazing, but that variety is mostly for ESO+ players. If the non ESO+ players want to dye their costume/hat they would have to buy pre-selected packs which destroyes the variety a bit. When housing comes and ESO+ players get to customize their house how they want and non ESO+ players have to select from pre selected house layouts, I honestly wouldn't be suprised.

I think you can count on some sort of mechanic that makes it much easier for eso+ members. It is a trend i dont see stopping. It seems they want money they can count on every month. And seem to be making a pretty good push to get people to sub.

magnusthorek · August 2016

Epona222 wrote: »

That's not going to happen, on PC a lot of the houses are now already in place (although currently inaccessible) and they aren't blank plots of land, they are already buuldings

You were my favorite horse!

Y U DO DIS!

But I knew that, I was just poking XD

Morimizo · August 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

3k Crowns for small house
5K crowns for medium house
10K Crowns for Big house
1K Crowns per bed
250-500 Crowns per decoration
2.5K crowns per chest (20 space each)
1.5K crowns per barrel (10 space each)
5K crowns per crafting station
5K crowns per DPS dummy
3K crowns per mannequin
3K crowns per planter to grow ingredients
4K crowns for respec shrines
2K crowns per maid
5K crowns to have a family
5K crowns to buy a new wife/husband aka family change token
4K Crowns to show off trophies in a room
4K Crowns for a stable
5K crowns for a farm
3K crowns for a fishery
1K crowns per table
3K crowns per floor reskin
5K crowns per outer house reskin
3K crowns per inner wall reskin
2K crown for different color interior lights

...... What'd I miss? ..... Oh yeah, this is an awesome feature with a chance to get 100% ruined by the Crown Store.

Exactly.

What did you miss?

Dominion Guard: 2K
Covenant Guard: 2K
Pact Guard: 2K
Dro'Mathra Guard: 4K
"Hero" Guard: 3K
Taxidermy Room: 5K
Creature Statues/Mounted Heads: 1K-3K apiece
Various Bundles, starting at 5K and going to 15K

Anyone got some more?

Cash Cow, 100K. (limited edition super-special Yard Decoration, available for only 4 days)

Vaoh · August 2016

Morimizo wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

3k Crowns for small house
5K crowns for medium house
10K Crowns for Big house
1K Crowns per bed
250-500 Crowns per decoration
2.5K crowns per chest (20 space each)
1.5K crowns per barrel (10 space each)
5K crowns per crafting station
5K crowns per DPS dummy
3K crowns per mannequin
3K crowns per planter to grow ingredients
4K crowns for respec shrines
2K crowns per maid
5K crowns to have a family
5K crowns to buy a new wife/husband aka family change token
4K Crowns to show off trophies in a room
4K Crowns for a stable
5K crowns for a farm
3K crowns for a fishery
1K crowns per table
3K crowns per floor reskin
5K crowns per outer house reskin
3K crowns per inner wall reskin
2K crown for different color interior lights

...... What'd I miss? ..... Oh yeah, this is an awesome feature with a chance to get 100% ruined by the Crown Store.

Exactly.

What did you miss?

Dominion Guard: 2K
Covenant Guard: 2K
Pact Guard: 2K
Dro'Mathra Guard: 4K
"Hero" Guard: 3K
Taxidermy Room: 5K
Creature Statues/Mounted Heads: 1K-3K apiece
Various Bundles, starting at 5K and going to 15K

Anyone got some more?

Cash Cow, 100K. (limited edition super-special Yard Decoration, available for only 4 days)

LOL! I liked the Dro-m'Athra Guard....

We forgot to add the new purchaseable titles!
• Poor Fellow - Spend at least 3,000 Crowns on your House
• Village Dweller - Spend at least 6,000 Crowns on your House
• Upstanding Citizen - Spend at least 9,000 Crowns on your House
• Wealthy Landowner - Spend at least 15,000 Crowns on your House
• Lord of Lesser Beings - Spend at least 30,000 Crowns on your House

Deathgiggle · August 2016

It's just like Everquest instanced housing. Your home will not be in a public place for all to see and you'll have to buy it with crowns or you get a small apartment for free with an ESO subscription. Storage is extra and if you cancel ESO Plus you lose your apartment.

Lysette · August 2016

OldManJim wrote: »

MarkusP72 wrote: »

Hi,

just got this LUA error:

EsoUI/Ingame/HousingEditor/SharedFurnitureManager.lua:74: attempt to index a nil value
stack traceback:
	EsoUI/Ingame/HousingEditor/SharedFurnitureManager.lua:74: in function 'ZO_SharedFurnitureManager:CreateOrUpdateItemDataEntry'
	EsoUI/Ingame/HousingEditor/SharedFurnitureManager.lua:29: in function 'ZO_SharedFurnitureManager:OnSingleSlotInventoryUpdate'
	EsoUI/Ingame/HousingEditor/SharedFurnitureManager.lua:13: in function 'callback'
	EsoUI/Libraries/Utility/ZO_CallbackObject.lua:111: in function 'ZO_CallbackObject:FireCallbacks'
	EsoUI/Ingame/Inventory/SharedInventory.lua:109: in function 'OnInventorySlotUpdated'

So I think: ZOS is working on it.

I had the same message pop up!

What brings up the question, why is this script even running?

Lysette · August 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Speaking of which, has anyone found the new buildings ZOS added in preparation for player housing yesterday? I was too busy with the new dungeons/Town capture to check.

@Lord_Draevan Yes. There was a PTS thread about it, and I contacted ZOS to see if that list was exhaustive (it was). I went and screenshotted all of them, which you can see here:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Player_Housing

No Imperial housing? ZOS plz

That list is exhaustive of the changes from Update 11. There will most likely be more houses added in Update 12, and probably more still when Player Housing is released. Datamining has suggested there will be three houses in each racial architectural style, which is 30 houses in total, and there's only 13 here, so that's at least 17 more that need to be implemented. (Of course everything that is datamined is subject to change.) I have found myself something in the data called "HousingColovianSmall", so that would be your Imperial housing. No idea on where that may be located, however.

that smells like Skingrad coming in a future update, in the Colovian highlands it would be perfect.

Lysette · August 2016

MarkusLiberty wrote: »

No Imperial housing? ZOS plz

I highly expect there will be player housing in the various DLC zones as well. So a house on the Gold Coast is probably your best bet.

There's also the rumoured/datamined Colovian Estates DLC, which would likely cover the areas around Skingrad. If the city is anything like in Oblivion it will certainly be a stunning place to live.

I'm personally saving my crowns for a house in Abah's Landing, the interior architecture for that city is beautiful.

So we could be neighbors, I am as well hoping for Abah's Landing.

Lysette · August 2016

PrinceOfWorms wrote: »

Relevant to my interests.
We could have our houses in an unreachable place others can't get to without an invitation. Or like... an apartment complex thing.

Those will be instanced anyway - you go into the same house than someone else, but you end up in your house and the other in his/her house, even it is in the same spot in the world. Just like it is with that house, where you emerged after the introduction in coldharbor. If you go back to that house and enter it, you will always be in an own instance and alone there, regardless how many others are entering it.

Lysette · August 2016

Morimizo wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

3k Crowns for small house
5K crowns for medium house
10K Crowns for Big house
1K Crowns per bed
250-500 Crowns per decoration
2.5K crowns per chest (20 space each)
1.5K crowns per barrel (10 space each)
5K crowns per crafting station
5K crowns per DPS dummy
3K crowns per mannequin
3K crowns per planter to grow ingredients
4K crowns for respec shrines
2K crowns per maid
5K crowns to have a family
5K crowns to buy a new wife/husband aka family change token
4K Crowns to show off trophies in a room
4K Crowns for a stable
5K crowns for a farm
3K crowns for a fishery
1K crowns per table
3K crowns per floor reskin
5K crowns per outer house reskin
3K crowns per inner wall reskin
2K crown for different color interior lights

...... What'd I miss? ..... Oh yeah, this is an awesome feature with a chance to get 100% ruined by the Crown Store.

Exactly.

What did you miss?

Dominion Guard: 2K
Covenant Guard: 2K
Pact Guard: 2K
Dro'Mathra Guard: 4K
"Hero" Guard: 3K
Taxidermy Room: 5K
Creature Statues/Mounted Heads: 1K-3K apiece
Various Bundles, starting at 5K and going to 15K

Anyone got some more?

Cash Cow, 100K. (limited edition super-special Yard Decoration, available for only 4 days)

Well, what about servants - a manor requires a lot of staff to keep it clean, run it and a major domo to rule over the servants.

Edit. Just reminds me of a study about Jane Austen's novel "Pride and Prejudice" which was about if Mr. Darcy would be able to run a state house like in the novel nowadays and what this would possibly cost - turned out, he would have a problem, due to the costs of servants and other staff, which are nowadays much more expensive than in the 19th century - the estate itself would not even be the biggest cost factor.

This is an article about this study http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/11063670/Could-Mr-Darcy-afford-a-stately-home-today.html

Lysette · August 2016

Deathgiggle wrote: »

It's just like Everquest instanced housing. Your home will not be in a public place for all to see and you'll have to buy it with crowns or you get a small apartment for free with an ESO subscription. Storage is extra and if you cancel ESO Plus you lose your apartment.

I would like mine to be a tent in the a semi-desert environment somewhere then - arabic style with some caravan guards and camels nearby - hm, and a female belly dancer for my entertainment with some proper animations - like these here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrgxhdN-baQ

Not going to happen, I know, but I can dream.

Eirikir · August 2016

I just want an Imperial styled medium-sized home somewhere in the Gold Coast.

If I could use any building in eso as an example, I would pick the Fighters Guild hall in the Hollow City. The only change being a basement added. That would be thw perfect style and size.

Lysette · August 2016

i wonder if the garden area of those houses will be customizable and player owned or if those will be pre-decorated and not changeable. They can be seen from outside the wall often, so it could be, those will be non-customizable.

FleetwoodSmack · August 2016

Lysette wrote: »

i wonder if the garden area of those houses will be customizable and player owned or if those will be pre-decorated and not changeable. They can be seen from outside the wall often, so it could be, those will be non-customizable.

I dunno. There's some interesting features for when you haven't completed a quest and someone else in your group has. They just randomly go invisible without warning and I'm wondering why they're taking a whole bunch of damage. Then I remember, "Ooooh yeah. Uuuh. You'll be running into mobs on the way there." Though I do have to agree, even with that I'm not holding my hopes up for the outside to have all that much customization. I doubt we'll even get planters. =/

Lysette · August 2016

Once One Tamriel will be out, I will go on sightseeing tour and get an impression about what all the many zones are like - so far I know just about 9 of them (not counting DLC areas) and I bet ZOS has made incredible other landscapes which will leave me in awe when I'll be getting there. This part of art work they do is always amazing and worth to be praised and so is the sound design and sound detail in the open wild - this is what I enjoy so much and One Tamriel will allow me to finally see it.

So it is hard to say now, where I will want to live at - I have first to get an impression about what is there.

Tessie · August 2016

Fishoscandi wrote: »

Tessie wrote: »

Fishoscandi wrote: »

I just hope housing doesn't turn out the same as costume dyeing.

What do you mean? Costume dying is amazing! I love the variety that it gives.

I agree, costume dyeing is amazing, but that variety is mostly for ESO+ players. If the non ESO+ players want to dye their costume/hat they would have to buy pre-selected packs which destroyes the variety a bit. When housing comes and ESO+ players get to customize their house how they want and non ESO+ players have to select from pre selected house layouts, I honestly wouldn't be suprised.

They are obviously trying to give additional incentives to subscribe. A person could subscribe for one month, then dye all of your character's costumes before the subscription runs out.

If someone is unable or unwilling to subscribe, they won't have access to certain things. Similarly a non-subscriber who is unable or unwilling to buy DLC or other crown items won't have access to them.

Enodoc · August 2016

Lysette wrote: »

i wonder if the garden area of those houses will be customizable and player owned or if those will be pre-decorated and not changeable. They can be seen from outside the wall often, so it could be, those will be non-customizable.

Given that all of the houses added so far have a wall around them, I would hope that a customisable garden is part of the instance (otherwise there's no point in the wall existing at all). While you can see the garden through some of the walls/gates, they will probably just ignore that discrepancy or try to cover the gaps.

Nerouyn · August 2016

Sausage wrote: »

I cant wait for more information, I just hope its a not downer....

I'm keen to hear more details but not getting my hopes up. Given how exorbitantly some things have been priced in the crown store I'm choosing not to get excited about this feature until I know everything about how it works, including pricing.

xilfxlegion wrote: »

am i the only one that doesnt care about player housing ? or even see the benefit of it other than appearance ?

It's like a lot of things in gaming - people enjoy them because they can't do it in real life. Not everyone can afford to buy or build their dream house and then decorate it. But some games offer the opportunity and that's kind of nice.

Housing has been a much loved feature of the single player TES games. I'm surprised it wasn't included at launch.

Morimizo · August 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

Morimizo wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

3k Crowns for small house
5K crowns for medium house
10K Crowns for Big house
1K Crowns per bed
250-500 Crowns per decoration
2.5K crowns per chest (20 space each)
1.5K crowns per barrel (10 space each)
5K crowns per crafting station
5K crowns per DPS dummy
3K crowns per mannequin
3K crowns per planter to grow ingredients
4K crowns for respec shrines
2K crowns per maid
5K crowns to have a family
5K crowns to buy a new wife/husband aka family change token
4K Crowns to show off trophies in a room
4K Crowns for a stable
5K crowns for a farm
3K crowns for a fishery
1K crowns per table
3K crowns per floor reskin
5K crowns per outer house reskin
3K crowns per inner wall reskin
2K crown for different color interior lights

...... What'd I miss? ..... Oh yeah, this is an awesome feature with a chance to get 100% ruined by the Crown Store.

Exactly.

What did you miss?

Dominion Guard: 2K
Covenant Guard: 2K
Pact Guard: 2K
Dro'Mathra Guard: 4K
"Hero" Guard: 3K
Taxidermy Room: 5K
Creature Statues/Mounted Heads: 1K-3K apiece
Various Bundles, starting at 5K and going to 15K

Anyone got some more?

Cash Cow, 100K. (limited edition super-special Yard Decoration, available for only 4 days)

LOL! I liked the Dro-m'Athra Guard....

We forgot to add the new purchaseable titles!
• Poor Fellow - Spend at least 3,000 Crowns on your House
• Village Dweller - Spend at least 6,000 Crowns on your House
• Upstanding Citizen - Spend at least 9,000 Crowns on your House
• Wealthy Landowner - Spend at least 15,000 Crowns on your House
• Lord of Lesser Beings - Spend at least 30,000 Crowns on your House

Also, in the spirit of the race/appearance changes, we cannot leave out those who didn't like their first choice:

House Location Change: 3K

And the most important of all the crown store additions:

Name your Mansion: 2K (first time only)
Re-name your Mansion: 2.5K

And, Personal Wayshrine with Map Icon: 5K
Customizable Map Icon: 3K

ZOS, could I have one penny for every sale regarding the houses for my charity? We'd never have to advertise or send out mailers again!!!

exeeter702 · August 2016

I can almost grunted you, they will be obtainable via in game methods....

But if you want the luxorious features or the extra swagy goodness, it is going to cost cash money baby.